Master the Max Cancel in King of Fighters XIII

Watched this on stream yesterday :)

edit: WOOT

I miss King of Fighters.

That looks awesome

As someone who can't cancel anything in Street Fighter this is way over my head.

God, King Of Fighters. I love this fucking series so goddamn much. XIII comes out later this month. I have to reserve that shit.

I've never seen a fighter game trailer so earnest about what the online multiplayer will be like for anyone who tries to break into these games. Thanks for the warning, King of Fighters.

GIT ON DA GROUND!!!!!!!!!!!! BOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
  

Thats some pretty crazy stuff.

I'd love to see the US Sports Team and Heidern return to this series some day. I kind of lost interest in it once I realized the roster wasn't going to get any more appealing for me past 98.

MAXIMUM HYPE.

The art is so fucking sexy. I hope they have streamlined the process of making these high res sprites because I think its about time they start rolling out new games in series like Last Blade.

So Atlus released a trailer that basically tells me "if you miss a single block, you might as well put down the controller until the next round comes up as one single combo string can do full health damage?"

No thanks. Not interested in the game.

THE HYPE.... I CAN'T CONTROL IT!! *turns into Dark Phoenix*

@jakob187 said:

So Atlus released a trailer that basically tells me "if you miss a single block, you might as well put down the controller until the next round comes up as one single combo string can do full health damage?"

No thanks. Not interested in the game.

This trailer goes for maximum flash which, while sexy, misrepresents the way the game actually plays. These combos require 5 bars of super meter and 100% drive meter, which means that they are ONLY performable by the third character in your team of 3 (the first and second characters max out at 3 and 4 bars of super, respectively), and that they require you to not spend meter on anything else in the match. The way a typical match flows, you are not likely to see a 100% combo. Typically matches begin as Street Fighter-y poking/zoning games, and combo possibilities and offensive/defensive options open up as meter is gained, with each player maybe getting one opportunity at a 70-80% combo toward the end of the match.

So, if a player busts out these combos to take out one character in a match, it means they have been reduced to their last character and must play a solid, meterless, low-damage game against 2 of their opponent's 3 characters, effectively 66% of their opponent's life. Not too different from SF4 where you can score 30-40% with an ultra attack, but must take the rest of the life bar simply with solid play.

So Atlus released a trailer that basically tells me "if you miss a single block, you might as well put down the controller until the next round comes up as one single combo string can do full health damage?"

No thanks. Not interested in the game.

@ThePhantomnaut: that cracked me up

holy shit, did you see that guys hair? what a magnificent tower of blond locks

The real question I still have about this game is

AAAAA YOU OKAAAAY?

Someone please, please tell me there is a combo-breaker system or parrying system or something similar in place to stop this from even remotely happening to me during a match.

The real question I still have about this game is

AAAAA YOU OKAAAAY?

Someone please, please tell me there is a combo-breaker system or parrying system or something similar in place to stop this from even remotely happening to me during a match.

@ThePhantomnaut said:

@heatDrive88 said:

Someone please, please tell me there is a combo-breaker system or parrying system or something similar in place to stop this from even remotely happening to me during a match.

There is a roll escape where you can get out of blockstun at the cost of a bar. As KOF is relatively strict in execution, don't worry too much.

I can't remember, was there a roll escape in previous games? For some reason, I'm remembering a roll move you could do as part of the game mechanics in KOF2001 or around that era, but I remember it as a defensive move against projectiles for no meter cost, not a blockstun sort of thing.

@ThePhantomnaut said:

@heatDrive88 said:

Someone please, please tell me there is a combo-breaker system or parrying system or something similar in place to stop this from even remotely happening to me during a match.

There is a roll escape where you can get out of blockstun at the cost of a bar. As KOF is relatively strict in execution, don't worry too much.

I can't remember, was there a roll escape in previous games? For some reason, I'm remembering a roll move you could do as part of the game mechanics in KOF2001 or around that era, but I remember it as a defensive move against projectiles for no meter cost, not a blockstun sort of thing.

@ThePhantomnaut: Jeez, I can barely even remember that. It's been too long since I've played KOF games, maybe it's about time I gave it a try again.

Awesome

Man, I really hope the online in this game is worth a damn. I'd love to sink some hours into getting good at this, but it's hard enough to find people who are willing to fight me in MK locally, let alone a deep cut like KOF.

Also, under no circumstances should you watch the KOF movie. It's on Netflix and has Maggie Q as Mai, Terry Bogard wears a suit for most of the movie and Kyo is a white dude.

@HelicopterSpy said:

Man, I really hope the online in this game is worth a damn. I'd love to sink some hours into getting good at this, but it's hard enough to find people who are willing to fight me in MK locally, let alone a deep cut like KOF.

Also, under no circumstances should you watch the KOF movie. It's on Netflix and has Maggie Q as Mai, Terry Bogard wears a suit for most of the movie and Kyo is a white dude.

Something tells me that KOF movie is like the first SF movie: So utterly bad it's good, and it doesn't seem like they took it too seriously.

Will this game provide any value unlike: SFIV, SSFIV, SSFIV: AE, MVC 3, UMVC 3, KOF 12, and SFIII OE? I also heard that SNK is locking a recycled sprite on the disc - Iori Yagami - so I'm not quite sold. 
 
Come on SNK, you need the money badly so your company can survive. Locking a recycled character on the disc isn't going to get me sold. Might as well whore out some prostitutes to earn some money.  

@The_LMFAO_Guy said:

Will this game provide any value unlike: SFIV, SSFIV, SSFIV: AE, MVC 3, UMVC 3, KOF 12, and SFIII OE?

for someone who doesn't like fighting games it will not provide any value. you are out of luck.

I really dig the art for the character models. Not the way they're drawn but whatever they're doing to render them like that. It's cool.

And that's about it, I was never really a fan of KoF

This looks bananas. I hope they didn't stick to the insanely strict execution like they did in XII. I'm particularly bad at learning input timings and don't think I wanna go through it again... *stares at Tekken*

@The_LMFAO_Guy said:

Will this game provide any value unlike: SFIV, SSFIV, SSFIV: AE, MVC 3, UMVC 3, KOF 12, and SFIII OE?

for someone who doesn't like fighting games it will not provide any value. you are out of luck.

My body is ready to get bodied. The next seven days are going to be rough.

@The_LMFAO_Guy: so it's about dressing them up and not the mechanics. huh, interesting.

@The_LMFAO_Guy: so it's about dressing them up and not the mechanics. huh, interesting.

@The_LMFAO_Guy: nah, it's alright. it's just not something I hear everyday.

@The_LMFAO_Guy said:

@Bravestar said:

@The_LMFAO_Guy said:

Will this game provide any value unlike: SFIV, SSFIV, SSFIV: AE, MVC 3, UMVC 3, KOF 12, and SFIII OE?

for someone who doesn't like fighting games it will not provide any value. you are out of luck.

No I like fighting games, I just don't like paying for bare bone fighting games with shitty DLC deals like the current Capcom fighting games. I guess I blame the companies that were still putting out new fighting games prior to SFIV that actually provided some value like Tekken 5, Viruta Fighter 4, Soul Caliber 2 & 3, the MK games on PS2 and Xbox. The fact that those games had free unlockables costumes (Or the ability to customize a character's outfit) made me upset at Capcom for charging extra cash for them, while the games itself are very bare bones.

So you're against perfectly respectable fighting games, just on the principle that you have to pay for alternate costumes? The DLC era has begun, and unfortunately we have to live with losing some (usually irrelevant) game content that gets turned into DLC. Wishing that it was the PS2 era again will not make it so, nor will it magically erase microtransactions and online marketplaces from existence.

Well, that is clearly a level of play that I will never reach. Hopefully this game is good, because I do like me some King of Fighters, for as many weird directions that series seemed to take after '98.

So you're against perfectly respectable fighting games, just on the principle that you have to pay for alternate costumes? The DLC era has begun, and unfortunately we have to live with losing some (usually irrelevant) game content that gets turned into DLC. Wishing that it was the PS2 era again will not make it so, nor will it magically erase microtransactions and online marketplaces from existence.

@The_LMFAO_Guy: I wasn't trying to defend DLC, so much as point out that it's part of the way the video game industry currently works. And sure, if you think a game has poor net code, that is an entirely valid reason to steer clear of a game if you have no intention of playing it locally with people. I didn't bring it up because, when I made my comment, you had only mentioned DLC.

The few things I can think of that I've bought DLC for were for things like Fallout 3 and Borderlands, so I'm generally only inclined to buy significant DLC that is nearly an expansion pack, as opposed to <$5 DLC that is cosmetic. You're free to boycott fighting game DLC that you think is just a greedy cashgrab, and I'm certainly with you on that. That sends a clearer message than just boycotting the game altogether. If the DLC sells poorly, they might rethink what they're offering as DLC. If the game sells poorly, they might just think that people have grown tired of their fighting game series in general, without realizing why you're really not buying it. That is the point I was getting at.

@ThePhantomnaut said:

@jakob187 said:

So Atlus released a trailer that basically tells me "if you miss a single block, you might as well put down the controller until the next round comes up as one single combo string can do full health damage?"

No thanks. Not interested in the game.

Yeah if the opponents are Mexican, Korean, Chinese, Brazilian, or Chilean. This game is going to be new to a lot of players and everyone is gonna drop combos because of high execution that KOF stands by. This aint Marvel.

A weird array of nationalities there...

If the game sells poorly, they might just think that people have grown tired of their fighting game series in general, without realizing why you're really not buying it. That is the point I was getting at.

@ThePhantomnaut said:

@jakob187 said:

So Atlus released a trailer that basically tells me "if you miss a single block, you might as well put down the controller until the next round comes up as one single combo string can do full health damage?"

No thanks. Not interested in the game.

Yeah if the opponents are Mexican, Korean, Chinese, Brazilian, or Chilean. This game is going to be new to a lot of players and everyone is gonna drop combos because of high execution that KOF stands by. This aint Marvel.

A weird array of nationalities there...

Getting trapped in those combos does not look fun lol.

I'm not into fighting game technicalities but... Is that ok? to have such long combos be possible?

Trolltastic

I'm not into fighting game technicalities but... Is that ok? to have such long combos be possible?

Hurricane Joe, mother fuckers!

Nothing about that trailer was appealing to me. Isn't part of the fun that more than 50% of the participants get to play?

Everything in these games is so weird. That lady is called "Mature", King is a girl, Maxima a guy and Ash person is a dude! Crazy stuff.