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PAX East 2011: Erik Wolpaw Mentions Portal 2

Jeff and the writer of Portal 2 discuss midgets, Demon's Souls, and occasionally Portal 2's single-player.

Mar. 17 2011

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Good interview Jeff !

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@Rxanadu said:
" @august: I love how everyone who has commented on my stance against Day 1 DLC IN GENERAL feels sooo empowered when they make comments with absolutely no backbone.  What is is your argument against my stance on Day 1 DLC?  What makes Day-1 DLC so great that you have to defend publishers -that's right, dunce; I'm NOT just talking about Valve, or Rockstar, or Infinity Ward, or any of your precious developers (who, of course, have absolutely NO say in what they want to do with their product, since they're untouchable when it comes to criticism)- who would love to pump every drop out of you to pay for their game that probably won't break even due to their overblown production budgets?     Thought so.  Next time you try to argue with me again, bring an ARGUMENT, not a pathetic biased statement you thought up because you felt butt-hurt.   Now, get ready to get learned in the art of the argument:   Let's take a look at Alan Wake.  You know, that one game made by the people behind the critically acclaimed Max Payne series.  For all intents and purposes, it tanked.  Despite all the advertisement they pumped for and INTO the game, the developers and publishers knew they couldn't compete with an instant blockbuster like Red Dead Redemption.  Thus, they went ahead and released it around the time RDR came out.  Then, they went and included DLC with limited editions of the game.     Another scenario is Dragon Age: Origins.  It had tons of Day 1 DLC that came with limited edition (or maybe it was all of them, can't remember) versions of the game that people had to shell out more money to get.  Unlike Alan Wake's DLC, it was available for play (as far as I can remember) when you opened up the case.  Everyone who wanted the game but couldn't afford $10 more for the limited edition was at a loss, since they couldn't experience the same amount of content as people who could afford the limited edition.  Obviously, this leads to inefficient use of Bioware/EA's resources, as it makes some people (in this case, those who couldn't afford the limited edition) worse off while making others(the ones that could afford it) better off - a basic principle of economics you're familiar with, I'm sure.  This, however, bears the question as to why the developers/publishers didn't just include the DLC on the disc (or at least set up an update to get more) to make all the people who paid for their game on the first day of release better off.   And there you have it: an argument.  Not a sarcastic comment which could have been made by a child the age of 3.    "
Yep, because Alan Wake and DA:O had day 1 DLC, OBVIOUSLY Portal 2 will have it as well. You have no idea what you are talking about. I'm pretty sure that no one here likes day 1 DLC, and that's not why people were "arguing" with you. Valve has never charged for DLC in their life, except once on the Xbox 360 when they were FORCED to. Valve is not the company to release day 1 DLC, they have never done it in their existence. Quit spewing your stupid shit and acting all high and mighty being a "rebel" because people are defending a video game company. You're not as smart as you think you are, so get off your high horse and be quiet. And your comment is shit and irrelevant to the matter at hand.
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Man. I need to play Demon's Souls and so does Jeff. Maybe he can play Dark Souls and use more skill to review it. He didn't even read the tutorials in the first game which i think was kind of funny. I've been looking up videos of the game all day.     It's like 20 bucks on amazon, I want to see if I can get it for any cheaper around town.  

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Hey fun fact, my Dad was totally in that show OZ for like 5 years!!

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Who in their right mind who buy Mk or Socom over Portal 2.  Seriously.

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"It was overblown how hard Demon's Souls was" 
 
I love Erik

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The fact that we are still talking about demon's souls almost a year and a half after the american release really says something about the game. 

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Man, video games are so fucking awesome. Well-done, genuine interview. Bring it on April!

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Wolpaw is a baller. Demon's Souls is great and he set it out just the right way. I always thought the GB guys shortchanged it , and now we know from the pros that they did.

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@Underachiever007: (replying to prevent giant text wall) Journalists are going nuts over MK, and rightfully so. I'm curious to see how much of that enthusiasm translates to actual players, though. Either way, it seems like April 19th will be an awesome day for games. 
 
EDT: Also, I rhymed.
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@Keeng said:
" @Underachiever007 said:
" @Nottle said: 

" I think Jeff sees Mortal Kombat with rose tinted glasses. If it's coming out the same day as portal 2, how many people are going to care about Mortal Kombat? "


   @Keeng said:
" Portal 2. Socom 4.   ...Mortal Kombat? lol sure. "
Considering all the pre-release hype that's been surrounding Mortal Kombat for awhile now it probably has a better shot at taking on Portal than SOCOM. Major sites like IGN and Gamepot, neither of whom have ever cared much about MK in the past, are doing some pretty extensive and positive coverage of that game. "
I agree with most sites that Mortal Kombat seems like a much better game than that franchise has seen in about a decade. I won't buy it, but it's more of a personal preference thing than a quality of that game thing. I just feel like MK is finally a game worth being excited about in a franchise that has essentially been dead. Socom 4, a follow up to Confrontation, which sold pretty well (despite the fact it didn't review well due in equal parts to both its horrible launch and a LOT of bad journalism) is releasing with a very positive legacy. In the last ten years, MK has failed and Socom has thrived. NO ONE bought a console for this MK game and lots of people picked up a PS3 because of their love for the Socom series. I'm not saying either of these games is "taking on" Portal 2, because there's certainly room in the market for all three. I'm just saying Portal and Socom are pretty big deals to a much larger chunk of the market as sequels to incredibly popular, thoroughly beloved games. Mortal Kombat is perhaps the second good MK title in two generations of hardware.  "
That's fair. It's tough to discount all the journalistic hype surrounding MK, though, and the fact that it's multiplatform. The MK lines at PAX East were absolutely crazy.
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@Underachiever007 said:
" @Nottle said: 

" I think Jeff sees Mortal Kombat with rose tinted glasses. If it's coming out the same day as portal 2, how many people are going to care about Mortal Kombat? "


   @Keeng said:
" Portal 2. Socom 4.   ...Mortal Kombat? lol sure. "
Considering all the pre-release hype that's been surrounding Mortal Kombat for awhile now it probably has a better shot at taking on Portal than SOCOM. Major sites like IGN and Gamepot, neither of whom have ever cared much about MK in the past, are doing some pretty extensive and positive coverage of that game. "
I agree with most sites that Mortal Kombat seems like a much better game than that franchise has seen in about a decade. I won't buy it, but it's more of a personal preference thing than a quality of that game thing. I just feel like MK is finally a game worth being excited about in a franchise that has essentially been dead. Socom 4, a follow up to Confrontation, which sold pretty well (despite the fact it didn't review well due in equal parts to both its horrible launch and a LOT of bad journalism) is releasing with a very positive legacy. In the last ten years, MK has failed and Socom has thrived. NO ONE bought a console for this MK game and lots of people picked up a PS3 because of their love for the Socom series. I'm not saying either of these games is "taking on" Portal 2, because there's certainly room in the market for all three. I'm just saying Portal and Socom are pretty big deals to a much larger chunk of the market as sequels to incredibly popular, thoroughly beloved games. Mortal Kombat is perhaps the second good MK title in two generations of hardware. 
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@Rxanadu: 
 
Nice job talking about every developer other than Valve, given that your original post was obviously directed at Valve.  If that wasn't your original intention and you aren't just trying to backtrack by pretending it was a more general statement after everyone noted how very wrong you were, you are either the worst communicator in the history of the Internet, or a troll.
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Who's the black dude!?

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im going to go get this on PS3. im kind of a 360 guy but i want to see this STEAM support on the PS3. if Valve took over the Playstaion store and treated it like steam proper i dont think i would ever touch my xbox again. we need to get this digital distribution stuff  rolling on the consoles. Games on Demand and PSN is not the answer... not at all. 

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yea demon souls was a good game 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
oh...yea..portal 2....looks good to :D

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This interview makes me want to really see a Vinny Jeff Demon Soul's Endurance Run...    

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@Rxanadu: 
Why did you bring a discussion of day one DLC into a video for Portal 2 if you aren't talking about Portal 2? Seems kinda out of place. There are plenty of arguments for why those DLC packs are ugly, and there are reasons not to like them, but why bring it up here, when everyone else is talking about a game put out by a developer who is the antithesis of what you're complaining about?
 
People were defending Valve because you put your little rant in a context where, by all accounts, it looked like you were accusing them of something they have never done. They weren't even attempting to argue against your stance on day one DLC, they were only pointing out that it doesn't apply here. If you can't understand that, you clearly aren't as smart as you think you are.
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that was awesome.  I can't wait for Portal 2!!  Got the 2 pack on Steam, so I am READY.

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Stephen Merchant to voice the Maneater!

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@august: I love how everyone who has commented on my stance against Day 1 DLC IN GENERAL feels sooo empowered when they make comments with absolutely no backbone.  What is is your argument against my stance on Day 1 DLC?  What makes Day-1 DLC so great that you have to defend publishers -that's right, dunce; I'm NOT just talking about Valve, or Rockstar, or Infinity Ward, or any of your precious developers (who, of course, have absolutely NO say in what they want to do with their product, since they're untouchable when it comes to criticism)- who would love to pump every drop out of you to pay for their game that probably won't break even due to their overblown production budgets?    
 
Thought so.  Next time you try to argue with me again, bring an ARGUMENT, not a pathetic biased statement you thought up because you felt butt-hurt.   
Now, get ready to get learned in the art of the argument: 
  
Let's take a look at Alan Wake.  You know, that one game made by the people behind the critically acclaimed Max Payne series.  For all intents and purposes, it tanked.  Despite all the advertisement they pumped for and INTO the game, the developers and publishers knew they couldn't compete with an instant blockbuster like Red Dead Redemption.  Thus, they went ahead and released it around the time RDR came out.  Then, they went and included DLC with limited editions of the game.    
 
Another scenario is Dragon Age: Origins.  It had tons of Day 1 DLC that came with limited edition (or maybe it was all of them, can't remember) versions of the game that people had to shell out more money to get.  Unlike Alan Wake's DLC, it was available for play (as far as I can remember) when you opened up the case.  Everyone who wanted the game but couldn't afford $10 more for the limited edition was at a loss, since they couldn't experience the same amount of content as people who could afford the limited edition.  Obviously, this leads to inefficient use of Bioware/EA's resources, as it makes some people (in this case, those who couldn't afford the limited edition) worse off while making others(the ones that could afford it) better off - a basic principle of economics you're familiar with, I'm sure.  This, however, bears the question as to why the developers/publishers didn't just include the DLC on the disc (or at least set up an update to get more) to make all the people who paid for their game on the first day of release better off.  
 
And there you have it: an argument.  Not a sarcastic comment which could have been made by a child the age of 3.   
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stephen merchant? 
 
nicccccccccceeeee.

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@PhanThomas said:

" THAT Eric Wolpaw, form the good ol' Gamespot days? "

Yes, as in "Wolpaw's Law". 
 
Also, it's kind of insane how many former Gamespot employees work in the gaming industry now.  Greg Kassavin, Rich Gallup, Carrie Gouskos, Eric Wolpaw...  It's kind of fucking awesome to see actual gamers and critics of games making games!  That's not even mentioning the roles of Alex at Harmonix and Rorie at Obsidian.  Geez!
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Funny interview, very enjoyable.

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Great interview. It was amazing how Erik Wolpaw went above and beyond to defend Demon's Souls even if this was basically about Portal 2. Valve is kinda awesome ^^

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I hate to add more Demons' Souls to this video but there were full wiki's when I imported it from Korea several months before its US release =P

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Great review.

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YEAAAAAAHHHHHHDEMONSSOULS!

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HAH! Erik Wolpaw is on our side! Demon's Souls 4 LYFE!

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Good interview, Jeff.

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@Thomper said:
" @Rxanadu:  Wait, have you ever played a Valve-game before? Are you in any way aware of how they do business? They've been releasing free updates to Team Fortress 2 for over three years now, and Left 4 Dead/Left 4 Dead 2 have also received plenty of free new modes, levels, etc. The only time Valve's ever charged for stuff was on Xbox 360, when Microsoft basically forced them to. But with Portal 2 having Steam on PS3, any updates to that are likely to be free. And PC-updates will be free, too.   Sure, day 1 DLC is stupid, sometimes. But don't go shouting that everywhere, because if there's one developer doing it right, it's Valve. "
You do realize Valve never releases an update that costs money, right? Well, except on the 360 where Microsoft demands money.
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Awesome interview.

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@Guv_Bubbs said:
" Are there any of the early game spoilers in this? "
Yes
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I love interviews where the developers don't seem to be spoon fed by some PR person and can just talk about anything, like that awesome Demon's Souls tangent.

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love this interview  Erick wasnt a total robot who only cares about product advertisement and isnt afraid to say something positive about other games.  thats pretty cool.

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So I'm not the only one who got stuck trying to find the monumental? Good to know.

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Erik seems like an awesome person.

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 Old Man Wolpaw representing.

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He is exactly what I would imagine someone writing Portal to look like.
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Aha, so awesome.

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Man, I never did get a chance to finish Demon's Souls. I was playing it on a friend's PS3, but he moved away. That game was rad.

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Video got me to pre-order Dark Souls. 
 
Oh, I've had Portal 2 pre-ordered for a while.

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Such s great interview.

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Great interview.  I love hearing more than the company line and more about the developers and what they're into.

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@Underachiever007 said:

" @Nottle said: 

" I think Jeff sees Mortal Kombat with rose tinted glasses. If it's coming out the same day as portal 2, how many people are going to care about Mortal Kombat? "


    @Keeng said:
" Portal 2. Socom 4.   ...Mortal Kombat? lol sure. "
Considering all the pre-release hype that's been surrounding Mortal Kombat for awhile now it probably has a better shot at taking on Portal than SOCOM. Major sites like IGN and Gamepot, neither of whom have ever cared much about MK in the past, are doing some pretty extensive and positive coverage of that game. "
Agreed. Mortal Kombat has a lot of positive energy around it. MK has always sold well for a fighting game before this revival of late, and it seems like it's even drawing people who haven't cared about SF4 and the like. I'd say it's at a stronger position than Socom at least. Where MK is getting a reboot, and with that, renewed interest, how much does Socom matter to people at this point? The online shooter landscape has changed so much in recent years, but they seem to be continuing in the same manner as before. I kind of like the series, but I don't think they can recapture public interest in the same way.
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I love this interview.

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Are there any of the early game spoilers in this?

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Huh. This made me want to play Dark Souls more than Portal 2.

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@TonyBlue87: I know, I'm not saying you can't like both, maybe I just underestimate Mortal Kombat, but I just don't think Socom and Mortal Kombat carry the same weight as they use to. Mortal Kombat seems like a fighting game series thats kind of stuck in the past. The games people like most are MK2 and MK3, thats why this game is literally going back to those game.  
 It's unfair for me to judge MK9 because I'm not a huge fighting game player and I haven't played the demo, but MK9 just doesn't seem all that special. I think Jeff just likes it because he really likes the old Mortal Kombats. It's just doing stuff that the series did nearly 20 years ago just with nicer looking gore.  Portal on tthe other hand is a fairly new series. Gameplay wise what Valves is doing is very creative and unlike most other games. I think most people given the choice would take Portal over Mk unless they have some nostalgia for the series. But thats just me.
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It is soooo crazy that people are still talking about Demon's Souls this passionately. I can't believe no one other than Vinny took that as a clue to muster through it. Being a huuuge fan of the game myself, I cannot wait for Dark Souls either. It's just absurd how popular the first game still is.