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Pokémon Black/White: Triple Pokémon Battles

Six Pokémon in one fight? My brain is splitting in half!

Jun. 28 2010

Posted by: Matt

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Pokémon Black/White

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Edited By OphliaHuntress

I am most likely going to buy this but, really I can now count on fighting not one not two but THREE damn trainers at once?  

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whats so fun about that retarded shit ?

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Edited By FatalZangetsu

Damn, I am excited for it now.

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Edited By kuma17

Is anyone else not liking the design for this game? I'm not necessarily opposed to it, just don't like it. Also, the character design for the girl is terrible! Really don't like that. 

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not quite sure what to think...

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@Axelhander said:

" My list of stuff Pokemon has to do for me to buy it again is large, and pretty much guarantees I'll never buy a new one: 
- Removal of "Genetics" (IVs or whatever you want to call them). 
- Removal of breeding and the addition of a far easier way to configure your movesets. 
- Removal of moves that turn matches into dice rolls (Accuracy debuffs, etc.) "


 Why would you want to remove exactly what hardcore fans of  Pokémon love? All three of those things are important to the core of what Pokémon is to most fans. 

-The IVs and EVs separate the boys from the men. That's just high-level stuff that if you don't want to worry about, you don't have to. It's there for those who want to go the extra mile. 
- Breeding allows you to breed the ultimate fighter/tool. You are able to choose the right parents with the right move combinations and stats to create the perfect champion. It's purely optional, though! Why worry about it if you don't like it?
-The moves that "turn matches into dice rolls" are exactly that! It's a freaking JRPG! Of course there's going to be an element of randomness! The moves that lower and raise accuracy/evasiveness are to play the odds. Accuracy and evasiveness are always in play, even without being manipulated by the player/AI.
 
Removing these things would be a step BACKWARDS for Pokémon. It may simplify it, but it would also change the game too much for it to really be a true Pokémon game. And, perhaps YOU might like it, but a large number of other people would drop it immediately. 
The point of a sequel is to add NEW features and IMPROVE old ones, not remove them. If the series were younger, I might agree with you more. Mass Effect to Mass Effect 2 was a GREAT change. But there was only one game before 2. There's too much history to change without losing a large part of your fanbase in a long-running series like Pokémon. 
People got super pissed when they did the great Damage Category shift in Generation IV, and that was only a small change in the mechanics. How do you think fans would react to such a massive shift like the one you want?
 
(Although an easier way manipulate movesets, perhaps more types of/more plentiful TMs, would be nice. I agree with you on that one.)
 (P.S. Wow, I really used all caps a lot on that one.)
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Edited By Razputin

The new Pokemon look worse and worse with each new game, but... it's still POKEMON. ME WANTS. 
 
Oh, and I'm quite surprised to see that they've actually improved their engine!

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Edited By SilvarusLupus

I think we are finally getting a Dark Gym. :D
I am more excited for this game that I ever was for IV Gen.  For some reason I really like the staters and other pokemon much more thing time around. And we finally get a Dark/Ground type and a Fire/Dragon type.
Guys the 3 v 3 battle thing isn't really a big deal. Double battles aren't used too much and I don't feel 3 v 3 will be used to much either.  
Time to keep training my all Dark Team.

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Edited By JackiJinx

If my calculations are correct, I'll be interested in playing a new Pokémon game again in two generations.

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Edited By Axelhander
@Korosive said:
" @Axelhander said:
Sorry, but that would rip out a lot of what the game is. Those are only subsystems that can be ignored. It's almost like saying you'd enjoy GTA more if there were no shooting and/or driving. "
Yeah thanks, genius, I'm well aware that removing aspects of a game is, in fact, exactly that.
 
Your analogy is ridiculous. Here's a more apt one: removing IVs/genetics from Pokemon would be like adding button customization to GTA, as both involve ignoring what scrubby players like you think is sound game design in favor of focusing on the actual meat of the game.
 
Since that undoubtedly went over your head: you smell. G'day.
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@Shibbles said:
" Adding three-Pokemon battles into the mix is pretty much just turning it into an SMT game. "
Yeah except SMT games are fun.
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@Axelhander said:
" @Korosive said:
" @Axelhander said:
" My list of stuff Pokemon has to do for me to buy it again is large, and pretty much guarantees I'll never buy a new one: - Removal of "Genetics" (IVs or whatever you want to call them). - Removal of breeding and the addition of a far easier way to configure your movesets. - Removal of moves that turn matches into dice rolls (Accuracy debuffs, etc.) "
What is this I don't even.... "
Don't be stupid. Thanks. "
Sorry, but that would rip out a lot of what the game is. Those are only subsystems that can be ignored. It's almost like saying you'd enjoy GTA more if there were no shooting and/or driving.
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Edited By Axelhander
@Korosive said:
" @Axelhander said:
" My list of stuff Pokemon has to do for me to buy it again is large, and pretty much guarantees I'll never buy a new one: - Removal of "Genetics" (IVs or whatever you want to call them). - Removal of breeding and the addition of a far easier way to configure your movesets. - Removal of moves that turn matches into dice rolls (Accuracy debuffs, etc.) "
What is this I don't even.... "
Don't be stupid. Thanks.
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Edited By baggykins

3? come on pretty much all JRPGs have 4 on X battles... The design of Pokémon still hasn't changed and it's still an excuse to grind... I wonder if they will ever let you pick any other elements than the classic 3 too...

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Edited By Korosive
@Axelhander said:
" My list of stuff Pokemon has to do for me to buy it again is large, and pretty much guarantees I'll never buy a new one: - Removal of "Genetics" (IVs or whatever you want to call them). - Removal of breeding and the addition of a far easier way to configure your movesets. - Removal of moves that turn matches into dice rolls (Accuracy debuffs, etc.) "
What is this I don't even....
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Edited By Axelhander

My list of stuff Pokemon has to do for me to buy it again is large, and pretty much guarantees I'll never buy a new one:
- Removal of "Genetics" (IVs or whatever you want to call them).
- Removal of breeding and the addition of a far easier way to configure your movesets.
- Removal of moves that turn matches into dice rolls (Accuracy debuffs, etc.)

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@CDUB901 said:

" i LOVE the fact that they're trying to change the perspective....but this would have looked SO MUCH BETTER on the 3DS  obviously the tech has been there for them to develop with, so why put it on the DS?  would have loved this as a launch 3DS title and the graphics and sprites would look WAY better "

Because it's time to release the annual MADDEN of virtual pet fighting games. Need more money from -suckers- ...Err- I mean kids/people who still get excited by pokemans.
 
Keep all the old stuff, throw in some stuff that won't change the formula into something different, release. Grow giant dollar signs for eyeballs.
 
Won't be buying unless I see at least ~14 new pokemon I genuinely like amoung the ~75 complete rejects they create every pokemon generation.
 
Where the hell is a toucan pokemon? Isn't it like obvious? We already have like 3-4 variations on pidgey.
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I can bring three bidoofs to one fight? I'm sold.

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@wolf_blitzer85: I would play that. 
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Edited By 49th

Holy shit! 3v3 battles! 
Pokemon innovates once again.
What's next... dare I say 4v4 battles?!

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@Carlos1408 said:
" @zonerover said:
" @RE_Player92 said:
" I wanna see Jeff and his team of Koffings... "
There 'surely' has to be a Pokemon Black and White Endurance run with Team JV and BR, right? "
Unless this one has some sort of meaningful or good story line I highly doubt that. "
I know its not going to happen. I frankly wasn't even being serious - I thought the 'surely' would have given that one away. However, a quick look of some of the new features would be nice.
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@zonerover said:
" @RE_Player92 said:
" I wanna see Jeff and his team of Koffings... "
There 'surely' has to be a Pokemon Black and White Endurance run with Team JV and BR, right? "
Unless this one has some sort of meaningful or good story line I highly doubt that.
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TRIPLE BATTLES!?!? What's next for Pokemon? 25 man raids? Killing some kind of super legendary Pokemon for some extremely low drop rate loots?
 
Well, I'll admit, the trailer looks cool, but the new Pokemon, well, it seems they just look uglier with each generation. 
 
HEY GAMEFREAK. Do us long time fans a favor and stop making new Pokemans. Instead, try focusing on better gameplay and improving other aspects of this old franchise.

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Pokemon designs look lame as hell, but there seemed to be some crazy connectivity with some sort of pokemon website which makes me squeal with excitement, so it's okay.

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This actually looks pretty good!

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so now they've gotta introduce moves to support this new battle type just to make pokemon more complicated.

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@Roddykat: I think you just won. I don't know what, but you won it. 
Also, there are Pokéballs orbiting Japan. You'd think they'd like, put that on the news or something.
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6 Pokemon! 1 Battle! Thursday Night Throwdowns* will never be the same!  
 
You'll pay for a whole seat but you'll only need...the edge? 
 
 
* - Commenter knows that this game will never be featured on TNT, but thinks it would be funny if it did.

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It's Pokemon, except the visuals look worse than in HG/SS.
 
Amazing.

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Why is that train doing a flip?

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I feel like I could give my neighbor's newborn a crayon and it could design better pokemon than these new ones.

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@JacDG: 
Yeah I guess us kids back in the late 90's just had to "grow up". The Pokemon games since have been just too simple and easy, lacking any sort of major innovation. While this new triple battle system is cool it is still not enough for me. I want them to completely e"RAT"icate the turn based system if possible.
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Oh my god...yes.

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TRIPLE SHUCKLE POWER PLAY

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LETS DO THIS

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How very Japanese this looks

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3 POKEMON AT ONCE?! JAPAN YOU CRAZY! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

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WANT SO MUCH

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Time to get my Wobbuffet team together. 

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They're finally updating the 10 year old battle system that was already outdated at the time of release?  I guess this is good news.

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@RE_Player92 said:
" I wanna see Jeff and his team of Koffings... "
There 'surely' has to be a Pokemon Black and White Endurance run with Team JV and BR, right?
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This clip is blowing my mind. Aside from a few things, like 'its now in 3D' and 'TRIPLE POKEMON BATTLES?!', I have no idea what the hell is going on. Looks like I'm going to have to check this out in English when it eventuates, even if its just for 15 minutes, just to understand what's going on.

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POKETO MONESTER BWACK WHITE

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I wanna see Jeff and his team of Koffings...

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More Pokemon!!!!

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@kitsune_conundrum said:
" yup, 6 metapods "
awwww yeaahh...
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@kitsune_conundrum said:
" yup, 6 metapods "
Man, that would be hell. Harden has got what, 40 pp? Pokemon Grey will be out before that battle is over. 
 
Also, triple battles? Sure, it'll be just like double battles only even more so.
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yup, 6 metapods

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Edited By rapid

What's with the watermark HUH thought GB had standards? 
lol Just kidding 3 VS 3 this changes Everything!