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Posted By NeoZeon

If it's as short as I'm hearing then I don't think I can put the cash down for it right now. I will admit, however, that twenty bucks for the game and the soundtrack ($14.99 for the game on Steam/ $4.99 for the soundtrack, also on Steam) does make a damn good case for itself

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Posted By evolvedtolive

Valkyrie Profile + Smash Brothers + Spelunky + Chilean Mythology + Mucha = Game.

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Posted By ArrrCee

The game has a cool look but the gameplay looks a little boring to me for some reason.

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Posted By chilibean_3

@mrklorox: Thank you but you're too kind. I'm no hero.

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Edited By MrKlorox

@mrklorox: Well, I mean, yeah. The map and menu is kind of easy to grasp. Did...did you have trouble with that? Is that why you feel the need to explain it?

Wow, ok.

So here's what's happening. You made the assumption that the game was too easy after admitting having only tried twice, and using the easy path both times. And since that comment, they had patched in a Nightmare difficulty.

If you were already aware of these facts before you made your first comment, then you are poor at reasoning. If you weren't, then you're a credit to the community.

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Posted By chilibean_3

@mrklorox: Well, I mean, yeah. The map and menu is kind of easy to grasp. Did...did you have trouble with that? Is that why you feel the need to explain it?

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Edited By MrKlorox

@chilibean_3 said:

@mrklorox said:

@chilibean_3 said:

So, I'm not here trying to say I'm amazing at video games but I came one hit away from beating the Warlock on my second run through and should of had him beat. I'm not sure if I got lucky with a great run or if the game isn't all that hard.

I'd bet it was the prior. Do you recall seeing how many levels were bright pink EASY on your way down? Luck is a major factor in how difficult these games can be. Also it's not the type of game you're supposed to stop playing once you beat the boss once.

Nah, turns out it isn't too hard.

Oh sure. Then I guess it's ME that sucks. Thanks for clarifying.

The left column is EASY mode. Try the right path. Or the "nightmare mode" that was patched in.

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Edited By fartGOD666
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Posted By Griffinmills

Got a different take on the Jeff topic than some folks. I think we all miss Ryan, Jeff no less than any of us. Also, imo, Jeff has been on an upswing, if anything, as of late. Particularly post new hires.

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Posted By chilibean_3

@mrklorox said:

@chilibean_3 said:

So, I'm not here trying to say I'm amazing at video games but I came one hit away from beating the Warlock on my second run through and should of had him beat. I'm not sure if I got lucky with a great run or if the game isn't all that hard.

I'd bet it was the prior. Do you recall seeing how many levels were bright pink EASY on your way down? Luck is a major factor in how difficult these games can be. Also it's not the type of game you're supposed to stop playing once you beat the boss once.

Nah, turns out it isn't too hard.

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Posted By gla55jAw

Game is pretty fun bought it and went to play just for a few minutes...hour and a half later.

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Posted By Baal_Sagoth

Very cool. Never played Zeno Clash, though that does look interesting, never heard of this game before GB and TotalBiscuit covered it and yet I think I'm pretty sold on it already. Art and music seem quite impressive and the enemy soul transformation mechanic should be exactly my kind of hook.

At 10 bucks I think I'll get it right now in fact. Watching the game set of a really weird mixture of associations: I'm seeing some Dust, Trine, obvioulsy Rogue Legacy and maybe even some Souls Series. Really strange but I'm pretty confident I'll like it. Time to find out!

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Posted By bluefish

This seems like it would be great on Vita. Make it happen Sony/ACE Team!

Seriously, I would chow down on this if it came to Vita. Seems perfect for it.

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Posted By MeAuntieNora

The icon they use for "Press R3" looks dangerously similar to "just press down on the analog stick". The off-center triangle pointing down really doesn't convey that input... I know I made the mistake and it looked like Jeff did too.

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Edited By Krathoon

I just like it when a game shows up like this out of the blue. Good ole Atlus.

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Posted By ICantBeStopped

If they put it on Vita, I'd buy it

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Posted By Calmgamer

This was not even on my radar....it now is. I really like the look of this game.

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Posted By Sessh

Probably gonna give this one a shot, eventually. Seems to have some intriguing systems, and I like what I've seen of the fighting system, even though it could be faster.

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Posted By emjaylawthertin

If you murder a centaur, who gets involved in the criminal prosecution? PETA?

Or... nobody, since they're mythical and don't exist?

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Posted By MrKlorox

So, I'm not here trying to say I'm amazing at video games but I came one hit away from beating the Warlock on my second run through and should of had him beat. I'm not sure if I got lucky with a great run or if the game isn't all that hard.

I'd bet it was the prior. Do you recall seeing how many levels were bright pink EASY on your way down? Luck is a major factor in how difficult these games can be. Also it's not the type of game you're supposed to stop playing once you beat the boss once.

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Posted By MeatSim

When do skeleton guitar man and the skeleton with the violin have a sick jam session?

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Posted By citizencoffeecake

Liking the art style for sure, especially skeleton guitar man.

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Posted By Kubertus

This looks like something Patrick could play like the Speluncy streams.

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Posted By apglazer

The character animation looks crazy! I may pick this up for that hair tech alone

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Edited By TruthTellah

Wait, is Major Kusanagi from Ghost in the Shell playing the female character in this? Because, if so, that's awesome! Sounds just like her.

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Posted By ripelivejam
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Posted By chilibean_3

So, I'm not here trying to say I'm amazing at video games but I came one hit away from beating the Warlock on my second run through and should of had him beat. I'm not sure if I got lucky with a great run or if the game isn't all that hard.

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Posted By greymeister

It's funny, this works almost the opposite of the Souls games, where you keep your equipment but lose your gold/xp (souls)

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Posted By AssInAss

Played a couple of hours of this with my friend, really liked it and quite tough.

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Edited By AndrewB

Odd random question to pose here, but I was thinking of Rogue-like games and how much that term should probably change to be more understandable to someone just getting into games, then got thinking about basic mechanics, and anyway...

Is there a Rogue-like where you have the *possibility* to reclaim your old gear or levels or at least levelling potential by finding your "bloodstain" (the Dark Souls mechanic)? It would have to be fundamentally different somehow based on the randomness of levels. I have multiple thoughts on how to tackle that part, but i'm not creating a design doc here in the comments :P

I should also say that this game looks awesome. Jeff might have hit the nail on the head in comparing some of the movement and visual cues to Smash Bros, and I'm not sure how I feel about that (not that I dislike Smash Bros, but what has been seen cannot be unseen).

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Posted By dvdwalker8

I really like the backgrounds. Great depth and lots of things going on. Looks really nice. Might pick this up at some point.

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Posted By stanleynipple

@eternalgamer2: Jeff checked out a long time ago. I give him credit for being able to stick around as long as he has but his enthusiasm for his job has definitely waned in the past few years. You can't really blame him though, when he made his career games were breaking new ground all the time. Nowadays, aside from the indie scene, companies are rehashing old ideas in effort to milk every last dime from the public. The games have become more and more formulaic as time goes on and it is probably as obvious to Jeff as it is to the other old time games who grew up in that time.

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Edited By roundlay

This was a pretty low energy Quick Look, but after seeing this I picked it up anyway. So far so good!

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Posted By Whiskeyjack

Looks like v1.01 was released today, which allows you to toggle friendly fire on or off.

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Edited By Dan_CiTi

Vanillaware really needs to make a game like this or Spelunky.

@d_w: Roguelite is a much more elegant name.

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Posted By DeviTiffany

This is basically the Subspace Emissary mode in Super Smash Bros Brawl turned into a Rogue-like-like-like. This looks awesome.

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Posted By Ford_Dent

This looks incredibly cool. I will have to check this out!

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Posted By Oppenheimer
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Posted By metalsnakezero

Looks cool and I can always trust Ace team.

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Posted By melodiousj

How about a Rogue Legacy-like?

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Posted By Morello

They've just released an update that includes a friendly-fire toggle.

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Edited By BaronVonHaggis

I'm down with this sickness!

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Edited By Jazz_Lafayette

Wow, Jeff may have been joking with the Smash Bros. bubble-shield reference, but that controls guide made it pretty clear that, yo, this game plays like those games.

Which is great, because upon hearing this was built like a fighting game, I was almost unsold. Turns out, it's one of the two fighting games I am reliably functional at!

Also: Ghost Monk.

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Posted By VibratingDonkey

I will do this the same I did The Fall, not know anything about it beyond an idea of its quality and just start playing it. ACE Team can't go wrong, even when they don't go right.

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Posted By Boosh

Is killing a centaur murder or just half a murder?

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First thing that came to mind.

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Posted By berterbertez

@amyggen said:

@lemonhead said:

Wow, Jeff doesn't even attempt to hide his disinterest in this game. Maybe select a different QL partner for Brad on this one?

According to his Twitter, he played a few hours of this game when he came home yesterday. So not complete disinterest!

Honestly I'd put it more to him having an off day. I feel generally if he doesn't like a game he will straight up say so.

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Posted By berterbertez

On the steam forums for this game the devs have started a competition for best training room youtube videos. People are post some pretty insane stuff. Apparently the firefighter character that appears when Ghost Monk dies is a beast.

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Posted By mrbubbles

I am always into more ACE team weirdness and Brad's Metamoq impressions