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@bam_boozilled: Just play 6, it and 4 are pretty much the only good ones.

Posted by HerbieBug

Final Fantasy XIV-II: The Mulligan

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@addfwyn said:

This may pretty much top my GOTY list for 2013, assuming we can treat Realm Reborn as a new game from FFXIV, and I feel that we can. It's an amazing turnaround of a product

Might be for me too. Working on another class and still going strong. I know some people will just say "lol another MMO", but for whatever reason it's been great fun. And like you said this has to win some kind of comeback award or something, because what they've done with this game is fantastic.

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@gaftra said:

Not sure if anyone else ran into this, but I wanted to get the game but it is not available anywhere for pc. Digital downloads are a nogo due to server load and when I went to a Gamestop I was told they were all recalled.

Not held back, actually sent away to the manufacturer due to problems the game itself was causing. Seemed odd and I really don't think I'd want to play this game anymore!

If someone else can clarify, I haven't been able to find any worthwhile info online.

No idea about the physical copies, but I'd be extremely surprised if that was true.

SE temporarily stopped selling the digital versions due to the extremely high number of players (far over their expectations) who were trying to play the game, swamping the login servers and generally overcongesting everything to the point where it took everyone a while to get in.

That issue's been basically 100% resolved since they added more servers last week, and they'll be adding many more tomorrow. If you're concerned about those particular issues, they're a thing of the past now.

Posted by Rorie

@seikenfreak: Yeah, there's a lot of stuff I would've liked to show. As it is I was probably a little frenetic in bouncing around between things as it is, alas.

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Posted by Amafi

That sure looks like an MMO.

Posted by OriginalYellow

Vinny melting down at the little guard is amazing.

Guarding chestnuts...

Edited by SpicyRichter

Yeah, but they still aren't selling digital downloads

Edited by ChrisTaran

@dabuddada said:

That said, Right click->blacklist is something they already said will be patched in very soon. It's definitely an oversight.

Where was this? I am still stunned it was not in at launch.

Edit: And I can't imagine not playing this game without a controller. Even on PC. That's how I play and it's fantastic. Very easy to place the controller down for a second to type too.

Edited by Seikenfreak

Crafting system is a lot of fun. Again it may not seem like it for the first 15 levels or so but once you understand how it works and how to maximize the return its great. The best analogy I've heard used to describe it is that it's like playing a card game with yourself. And just like all the other classes in the game, crafting can use some skills from the different crafting classes so the more of them you level the wider assortment of skills you can use.

Gathering classes have the same shared skill stuff but the act of gathering itself is pretty dull. Not to mention crafting can gain monstrous amounts of XP and it thus it keeps things moving along and is fun to level, where as Gathering has just been a brutal grind for me. My assumption is that they did this to kind of de-insentivise people from playing these? The market is already flooded with materials even with a system that is supposedly so dull. Ive got my Miner up to 47 at this point.

Once you unlock Grand Companies then you can build up "Seals", the currency for them, to purchase items, your Company Chocobo mount, and other misc items. You can also spend seals to raise your Grand Company rank. There are Supply and Provisioning sort of "dailies" for Crafters and Gatherers to turn in and receive XP and seals (turning in High Quality versions yield something like a 200%+ XP bonus and bonus seals.) There are Grand Company Guildleves for the combat classes.

Once you've obtained your Company Chocobo and reached level 30, you can do a quest that allows your chocobo to fight along side you in battle. The chocobo has different skill paths (tank, healer, fighter) that you can spend skill points unlocking as it levels up. You can also use Grand Company seals to purchase armor for your chocobo.

I can't say from personal experience but I've heard that the story missions/dungeons really ramp up in difficulty around level 30 and everything prior to that is designed to ease people in that are new to MMOs.

Sooo much stuff to talk about and do I could go on and on. Weee

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Edited by RockyRaccoon37

Great quick look and love having Rorie run it-- he's really informative and fun to listen to.

Honestly I hope he stops following the chat during live shows, it's boring for people like me who watch the show after the fact or avoid the chat during the live show. Would much rather he gets involved in the conversation and plays some games!

Posted by Rorie
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Edited by TyCobb

Game still isn't for sale =/

Posted by kishinfoulux

@rorie said:

@seikenfreak: Yeah, there's a lot of stuff I would've liked to show. As it is I was probably a little frenetic in bouncing around between things as it is, alas.

It's hard to show off an MMO in a Quick Look, since there's so much to talk about so don't sweat it.

Posted by OriginalYellow

@rorie: Awesome job on this QL. As someone who also plays a lot of MMOs this was extremely informative, hope to see you on more of the big MMO QLs coming up!

Posted by BigBearSmokey

Very boring mmo, got to lvl 50, finished my bard quests, did some dungeons and I couldn't stay hooked. Everything felt bland, stale, nothing innovative. After 3 weeks from launch I just threw my account for sale, at least I made 100 bucks from this game (Funnest part of my Whole FF14 ARR experience)

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Posted by TheManWithNoPlan

Nope, not for me.

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Posted by Karkarov

Yeah... on the aside.... the game plays way better on pc with mouse and keyboard. Yes, the tabbing is different from wow. So you play for 30 minutes and you get used to it. Yeah limit break doesn't have a short cut key... but you can drag and drop to your hotbar and... now it does? There are a lot of "little" things to complain about that may get to a guy who has only played WoW or someone new to MMO's period... But with an hour of learning the game through combat and maybe 15 minutes fixing up your UI, it is dealt with.

The game doesn't even "start" until level 30 as far as I care. Once you start running dungeons like The Sunken Temple of Qarn, learning how to make high quality gear, realizing leves/dungeons are for "farming" gear, and start getting more than one job to a decent level the game REALLY opens up.

This game takes all the grindy stupid crap from WoW, throws it in the toilet, and gives you fun things to do. Yeah you have to grind a little once you hit 42-43 (out of 50), but you can do it through leves, dungeons, fates, and your hunting log. No one ever has to "farm mobs" in this game unless they want to for some dump reason.

Edited by Hassun

@rorie:

I don't think a Quick Look has ever been started better than with the words "Matt, get naked!".

... Also get on your knees.

Edited by sub_o

I have never played MMO. The UI looks crowded !

Edited by Karkarov

Vinny melting down at the little guard is amazing.

Guarding chestnuts...

You think thats brad should level up pugilist and show Vinny his upcoming rival in his guild....

Posted by mbdoeden

What's the story, Matthew Rorie?

Welllllllll....need a little time to wake up, wake up.

Edited by VoshiNova

Gilgamesh - Voshi Nova - Playing all the time. ^_^

Posted by enemymouse

Was the word "denouement"?

Edited by Klei

MMO's turned out boring for me with Guild Wars 2. It's the same old grindfest that requires way too much time for so little reward. You walk around, complete quests, level up, craft things that are never for your level unless you're pretty good at keeping your crafting up to date and so on.

Can we get another WoW-like revolution of MMO's, please? Something that will turn out to a massive must play?

Posted by Stimpack

I'd rather play FFXI, before they changed it.

Posted by Flappy

Nice QL, Rorie! Always nice to get more personalities in the content.

Posted by GermanBomber

Nice to see Rorie in a Quick Look. I'm not a huge mmo fan but I'll look into this game on PS4.

Vinny's fascination for these childlike creatures was also kinda funny.^^

Posted by radioactivez0r

@rorie you make a great point that an MMO coming out in 2013 should have already implemented all the lessons learned by everything that came before it - no excuses for that.

At this point in my life I've realized these aren't for me anymore (was super psyched for Guild Wars 2, played it for a week and never came back), but it's still fun to watch.

Posted by ProfessorEss

Anyone have any GOLD4SALE?

Edited by Seikenfreak

I will add that I am using the controller. I preferred using the controller for FF11 on PC and so I have moved into FF14 on PC using the controller, keyboard and mouse. IMO this is the best way to play it. Best of both worlds.

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Posted by Zirilius

@rorie said:

Addendum

I feel like I may have come across as a bit of a complainer during this, apologies. I am pretty frustrated with some of the UI decisions for the PC game, though. I get that the game runs well on the PS3, which is pretty fantastic if you're a fan of MMOs and like to sit on your couch (will have to try out the controller support), but a lot of the little UI issues are annoying, e.g. not being able to right-click to ignore spammers, not being able to keybind a master volume on/off switch, having to drag and drop Limit Break before you can actually use it (!!!).

That said, my experience with dungeon running is pretty positive so far. I can tank stuff well so long as I actually work at it; I can't just walk up and start mashing buttons and expect to keep aggro on everything, which is a nice change of pace. Aggro management requires smart tanking, which is great for me since I understand the mechanics; curious how frustrating it'll be for people who get grouped with poor tanks, though.

If anyone has any follow-up questions, feel free to ping me in this thread and I'll try to answer them.

My biggest issue with the UI is not being able to resize the quest dialog. When running at 1080p its next to impossible to read from outside of 5 ft.

Overall I'm really impressed with the reboot and as someone who played 1.0 it's a great change of pace. Great quick look and it's not complaining if it's true. I had to switch my PC environment back to my desk cause it wasn't working sitting on my office futon.

Edited by Akujin

Rorie. You're being a little ridiculous about hating the Crafting system.

The Reason you change your class to a "Miner" is because you actually become a Miner...

There are miner quest and Artifact gear. and you can mine some of the rarest materials in the game at a high level, they even get there own Relic and storyline quests. As a weaver and a Leather Worker you can create Special armor for your crafting class and all the Crafters in the game, but you will need the help of Gatherer classes to make those items. The crafting system takes a much more immerse and worthwhile experience rather than racing your flying mount from glowy spot to glowy spot, or clicking the item you want and hitting "Go"

you create high quality items by crafting an items with high quality materials that are rarer and dropped from mobs.

and in this quick look you said "I don't like the Loot system" "I don't like the Crafting System" "I don't like this, I don't Like that" and you really don't Know how to use any of them.

To say: "Why can't i do it Like Wow?!" Is just ignorant.

You really need to put more thought into the games you play.

If vinny wasnt in this quick look it would be unbearable! lol

- I still love you guys <3

Posted by Almerc

Gooo chestnut gwuards! awwwwww

Posted by TyCobb

I will add that I am using the controller. I preferred using the controller for FF11 on PC and so I have moved into FF14 on PC using the controller, keyboard and mouse. IMO this is the best way to play it. Best of both worlds.

I loved the control scheme of FFXI on PC. For the 3 or 4 years I played that game it was solely with a keyboard, I never even touched the mouse. So comfortable to play.

Posted by nomtank

@somejerk said:

<< PSA: PS3 version will upgrade to PS4 for free, once it goes live >>

I knew that data was going to transfer over, but I didn't know the PS4 upgrade would be a freebee! Do you have a link to that by any chance?

Edited by gaftra

@keres: That's good to know since I was genuinely interested in playing. The Gamestop thing seemed strange and I was pretty off put to the idea of playing. Look forward to watching this when I get home and probably caving to purchase!

Edited by AlexW00d

Of 2 minutes of watching the video was low res as fuck for like 90% of the time. Come the fuck on guys.

Posted by UnbornApple

I really enjoyed the beginning of the game. I never play MMOs but I really got sucked in during the open beta. Not so much because you're doing super interesting things, more that the world is very engrossing and enjoyable to be in. WoW hardly looks bad, but I find the aesthetics to be very bland and uninteresting. FFXIV has quintessential FF finesse going for its world.

Posted by CustomOtto

"I've never been a big pet person." -- Matthew Rorie

Posted by Yadilie

PS3 is a fucking atrocious. Be warned. BE WARNED. Once you get higher up and get into zones with a lot more people the PS3 will fucking kill itself. Doing Fates in Dragonhead, NT, and MD you will be hating that you're on a PS3. Not only that but targeting is a piece of shit if you're a healer. Maybe once the PS4 version will come out the framerate won't be terrible but for now just be warned. It's playable in dungeons but outside in Fates trying to heal specific people is just dumb.

Also this Quick Look was kind of painful. End game right now is fine, as most people can't even get to Bahamut. Most people have trouble even doing HM Ifrit.

The two main issues I have with the game personally is that a) badge grinding and b) chain farming xp parties are gone because of the way most places are set up. There isn't a good super high level area for when you get around to level 50. And FATE grinding is an "effective" way to level. Or at least it was until the wave of regular players swamped the higher level areas. Making FATES last all of 15 seconds. This second issue is just me wanting the game to be more like 11, which I find fundamentally to be the best MMO made to date.

@keres: Actually its still not resolved completely as the Duty Servers are still not big enough to handle everyone on one of the clusters. Other day I formed a FULL party and took 50 minutes to reserve our instance. They're fixing it soon with another big patch day but still. Not resolved completely.

Also to anyone playing on Malboro I am 'Yadilie Ginwa'. If you need a WHM for anything hit me up on there. I play A LOT when I'm not working.

Posted by Rorie

@akujin: Well, when I get to that stuff I'll be able to comment on it; all I know is that starting out as a miner is super boring to the point where I don't even really want to pursue it anymore. I know that a lot of MMOs get super hardcore on their crafting stuff, but it just feels like a chore for me, kinda like maxing out fishing used to be in WoW. I'll stick with it and see if it gets better, but it's not really to my taste in the early game.

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Posted by gbrading

What's the story Matt Rorie, in Balamory?

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Is it just me, or does this game have really great animations (for an mmo, at least)

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Posted by HarlechQuinn

@rorie: It seems that the NA/EU servers are hosted in Montreal, Canada. At least this seems to be the most common speculation currently... Although this is not confirmed by SE.

Regarding the game itself, I uninstalled it after a few days... Nothing wrong with the game itself, probably more a case of MMO-fatigue...

Edited by ildon

Sorry if someone already mentioned it, but all the emotes actually do have animations. Some are ONLY face animations, and the face animation sticks around for a bit and is independent of the character animation, so you can dance and have a really sad face going if you want.

Also the emote quests never end. Even at max level, be prepared to emote at NPCs. Really weird.

Posted by Rorie

@harlechquinn: Hmm, I dunno why the server time would be GMT in that case. I also wish there was a ping meter, as I can tell that things don't happen until a good 300-400ms after I'm hitting buttons sometimes.

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Posted by Kucheeky

This game is legit. I wouldn't say it's a great game by any means, but I've certainly enjoyed my time with it thus far. I do wish they had a proper friend/account system though. Maybe they'll address this someday? /shrug

Posted by Vuud

"No pet puppies 0/5" Review by Matt Rorie

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