Edited by Y2Ken

I'm going to throw down in favour of FF XIII, I really liked that game. It was certainly a different experience from the past titles - especially coming off XII and the way that handled its world and combat. But I appreciated both of them: XII with its open-world, in-depth, pseudo-MMO stylings; XIII with its more linear, structured narrative and wider tactical approach to the combat.

I can see why the transition wouldn't sit with many people though - despite their overarching JRPG qualities, a lot of the games in the series are significantly different in how they handle, so certain titles will appeal to some people but others might not.

@sanj I agree, I think that they obviously wanted to play off the guaranteed sales of the franchise name but I feel as though a lot of the detractors to FF XIII and its follow-ups came from it "not feeling like a Final Fantasy game".

Posted by MrAsshat

It's almost amazing how far up it's own ass ff13 has gone, it has somehow surpassed ff8 in terms of sheer nonsense.

Also lightning is a terrible character that needs to die.

Posted by kerse

Not enjoying the story as much as the first two, but maybe it picks up after a while. It just seems to jump into everything a little too quickly or something, I can't put my finger on it but there's something very strange about it. I am however actually enjoying the game, more than I thought I would, I wonder if I would have liked Majora's Mask.

Posted by Solh0und

Destiny is Destiny, guys

Posted by ike7779

Man Lightning is the most anemic character Squenix has come up with. I struggle so hard caring about her.

Yeah I agree, that's a real bummer too because I kind of like the art design and graphics from what I'm seeing in the Quick Look, and the systems seem interesting enough. It would be something I'd like to watch streamed with some good commentary maybe.

Posted by HellknightLeon

Love watching them play FF games... its sucks so bad for them. It makes me giggle. I hope they make games like this forever... its funny to see people buy them and play them and try to defend them.

Posted by callmekowalski

@cale: Tru Dat brotha! I miss me the quirky, odd, and distinctive look Amano used to bring with his concept work for the series. I feel like most of these new characters should be doing shampoo commercials or something along that line.

Posted by YoThatLimp

While the combat seems interesting (thought a little lazy, I mean hey lets replace those pesky party members with costumes!) these games just aren't for me. You could see they really wanted to create these large city expanses and really nail the environment, but it just totally doesn't work. I hate the character design, I think it it just feels like a lack of art design. It started with FF7, but really hit with FF10.

Edited by Panelhopper

As far as the use of European mythological elements used in JRPGs, as far as I understand it, some people in japan are really into it, in the same way that some people are really into Japanese culture in the west

To be honest, this doesn't look any worse that 13 itself (although that's still bad by series standards, I won't lie) I think I might pick this up.

Posted by Chipotle

Fuck everyone in the development, production, translation and distribution of this absolute piece of shit.

Posted by ajroo

Dont really cafe much about this game, but DANG IT.....i want to know where those stupid numbers ended up being...

Posted by LiquidPrince

@chipotle said:

Fuck everyone in the development, production, translation and distribution of this absolute piece of shit.

The game is great, so fucking whatever.

Posted by brunom33

I don't get it, finally SE makes combat fun but won't let you gain exp with it?. It's bs

Posted by Klappa

Is this a new game or have i missed something?

Edited by CrippWox

never played FF 13 and the other new ones, they look so terrible.

Posted by Scratch

Those numbers are bothering me too now. I've to resist the urge to look up how that quest progresses.

Posted by bunnymud

Did Brad just look at the box and say "Yea, I know a lot about this game.". Shit, Jeff knew more about what was going on.

Edited by HerbieBug

I haven't told you everything about erotica. Come here and I will tell you what you need to know.

Edited by YukoAsho

@bunnymud said:

Did Brad just look at the box and say "Yea, I know a lot about this game.". Shit, Jeff knew more about what was going on.

Dude, it's Brad. It's not a Brad QL if he doesn't front like he knows stuff and then complain about not being told about anything.

Edited by RaidenMitsuru

This game is hot garbage, I got to Fang on the 5th day and I just had to stop. I don't understand who they were making this game for, certainly not the people that liked the other XIII games. XIII-2 was a fun little game.

Posted by Majkiboy

The voice acting is good. The localization seems nice. I guess. But it might have been this way a long time. For me, the series actually stopped being fun at the transition to 3D, mostly because the ridiculous stories actually became more prevalent, I think crazy bad stories might be more forgivable in 2D. But that is just a theory. Also: whatever floats your boat.

Posted by Majkiboy

@korolev said:

Played FF-13. Did not like it. It took FF in a strange direction - J-pop influenced character design (even more so than in FFX), and J-drama influenced script.

Actually, X-2 was when FF left me behind and went to a different place. I'm not saying it's necessarily bad, but every FF game since X-2 has been really weird to me, trying to reflect Japanese Pop-Culture to an extent that I simply can't relate to it anymore.

Dawg I think you explained it all yourself. X was leaning that way and then 13 picked up the X torch, especially with X-2.

Luckily, I think formerly Versus, now 15, isn't following that lead. I also have no interest in this dress up, religoius symbolism, j-pop mash up.

Yeah nicely put. I also have a real problem with the story being so bland and contrary to what it seems to the developers, unimaginative. Mixing shit up like that seems so lazy. Like for real, Ygdrasil? Geeez. But I guess it works for Japanese people.

Posted by SPCTRE


In other news, Final Fantasy still brings out strong emotions in people, and everyone has an opinion on the best games in the series and where it went bad.

Edited by IronSean

@brad and @jeff definitely heard a guy say there's a number "up there", an (!) Exclamation mark appeared on the map on a short path to the left, and they proceeded to forget the guy said anything and run in a random direction...

Edited by Seroth

I finally bought this game, and I found the first number within minutes of starting the quest and two others soon after. The last one took me a while, but not as long as this Quick Look, lol.