391 Comments
Posted by algertman

@Manhattan_Project said:

@Colourful_Hippie said:

Nothing like some good ole misogyny to spice up this authentic game.

Did I miss something?

All video games now are rape simulators.

Posted by Hogans_Hotdogs

Fun quicklook but you're in denial if you can't see this is the most boring-ass "tango down fox-club actual" modern shooter crap out there yet. If this were a light gun rail shooter in an arcade it might be fun, but $60 for this?

How long until Brad's body rejects his beard and it dies?

Posted by Vagner36

why is brad playing this he suck so much

Posted by Ixaan

At 36:20 it looks like the enemy starts pelvic thrusting for a second

Edited by Colourful_Hippie

@algertman said:

@Manhattan_Project said:

@Colourful_Hippie said:

Nothing like some good ole misogyny to spice up this authentic game.

Did I miss something?

All video games now are rape simulators.

22:00 mark

Posted by cthomer5000

@BeachThunder said:

Honestly, the driving level looked surprisingly cool :o

Yeah i thought that looked great actually. The cut scenes looked very good to me as well. I don't really ever play military FPS games, but i could see picking this up when it's cheap now.

Posted by LastNinja

You know your fight with the ex is getting serious when she starts dropping grenades THROUGH THE PHONE!!

Posted by Manhattan_Project

@Colourful_Hippie said:

@algertman said:

@Manhattan_Project said:

@Colourful_Hippie said:

Nothing like some good ole misogyny to spice up this authentic game.

Did I miss something?

All video games now are rape simulators.

@algertman said:

@Manhattan_Project said:

@Colourful_Hippie said:

Nothing like some good ole misogyny to spice up this authentic game.

Did I miss something?

All video games now are rape simulators.

22:00 mark

Really? Since when is hating your ex-spouse wrong?

Posted by algertman

@Colourful_Hippie said:

@algertman said:

@Manhattan_Project said:

@Colourful_Hippie said:

Nothing like some good ole misogyny to spice up this authentic game.

Did I miss something?

All video games now are rape simulators.

22:00 mark

Are you serious?

Posted by JasonR86

It amazes me what people will let slide with COD games but demonizes when other games do it. The GB guys sounded like a bunch of miserable fucks who wanted to dislike the game before they even started it. There's nothing this game could have done that would have outweighed their preconceptions. They didn't act like professionals.

Posted by Seversk

Thank god for Drew telling them about the bullet contrail.

Posted by Manhattan_Project

@JasonR86 said:

It amazes me what people will let slide with COD games but demonizes when other games do it. The GB guys sounded like a bunch of miserable fucks who wanted to dislike the game before they even started it. There's nothing this game could have done that would have outweighed their preconceptions. They didn't act like professionals.

As someone who no longer buys any CoD, even I can see that those games either do something kinda interesting (BLOPS) or are have explosions every 50 feet (MW3). This game just looks fucking boring.

Posted by Colourful_Hippie

@algertman: Yeah misogyny is a harsher word to use, they're just lowballing it.

Posted by dezvous

Ugh

Edited by Aegeri

Did anyone else notice in the Somalia mission, that they removed the bit at the start where you get shot by a sniper in the water heading in? It was quite vigorously criticized as being silly considering they were trying to be realistic and it seems to now be gone. Game looks like yet another entirely generic Call of Duty rip off though. Honestly can't wait until the generic modern military shooter bubble bursts at this point.

Posted by JasonR86

@Manhattan_Project said:

@JasonR86 said:

It amazes me what people will let slide with COD games but demonizes when other games do it. The GB guys sounded like a bunch of miserable fucks who wanted to dislike the game before they even started it. There's nothing this game could have done that would have outweighed their preconceptions. They didn't act like professionals.

As someone who no longer buys any CoD, even I can see that those games either do something kinda interesting (BLOPS) or are have explosions every 50 feet (MW3). This game just looks fucking boring.

This has a pretty neat looking cover system, nice graphics, variety in play (to some degree anyway) and environments, at least an interesting idea for a story (whether it pays off or not is unclear), and more open environments which would allow for different approaches to enemies with multiple levels for fighting and areas for flanking compared to COD even if Brad was unable to figure out how to do so. There are some cool things here that may or may not pay off but people need to drop their cynicism first before they can give those things an honest shoot (no pun intended).

Edited by Rapid

Looks decent, doing different things like the driving and story stuff. May check it out when it goes on sale or something.

Posted by confideration

Ya, brother!

Posted by murisan

@MiniPato said:

Does Patrick have a grudge against the developers of this game? Seems like he was constantly looking for something to hate.

Seems like he's just not open to big-budget titles.

Edited by thebigJ_A

This could only be more boring if it was Call of Duty.

It must suck to have made one of these after Spec Ops The Line did what it did. Unless you're utterly without self awareness.

If you don't know what Spec Ops did, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlBrenhzMZI

I recommend that dude's other vids, too.

Posted by Aegeri

Patrick liked Dragons Dogma and I think Dishonored, which are hardly small budget indie affairs. Maybe like a lot of people (including myself) he is just sick of generic "Shoot foreign people in a modern military setting" games. Because watching this quick look, other than a neat take on a cover system I have seen nothing to set this apart from Call of Duty (which I don't care about anymore either, for the record). In fact watching this I get such a distinct Call of Duty vibe that it has to be deliberate.

Posted by Manhattan_Project

@JasonR86 said:

@Manhattan_Project said:

@JasonR86 said:

It amazes me what people will let slide with COD games but demonizes when other games do it. The GB guys sounded like a bunch of miserable fucks who wanted to dislike the game before they even started it. There's nothing this game could have done that would have outweighed their preconceptions. They didn't act like professionals.

As someone who no longer buys any CoD, even I can see that those games either do something kinda interesting (BLOPS) or are have explosions every 50 feet (MW3). This game just looks fucking boring.

This has a pretty neat looking cover system, nice graphics, variety in play (to some degree anyway) and environments, at least an interesting idea for a story (whether it pays off or not is unclear), and more open environments which would allow for different approaches to enemies with multiple levels for fighting and areas for flanking compared to COD even if Brad was unable to figure out how to do so. There are some cool things here that may or may not pay off but people need to drop their cynicism first before they can give those things an honest shoot (no pun intended).

That cover system is old, the graphics aren't anything special and if by variety you mean a waaaaay too long and scripted driving sequence then you are grasping at straws. As for the "open enviroment" I have no idea what you are seeing, it looks just as "open" as any other military FPS.

Posted by Megasoum

BTW, those are not CGI cutscenes. I'm sure they are pre-rendered but it's all made from in-engine. They had the same kind of cutscenes in BF3 and it was all inengine. Frostbyte 2 is amazing for that kind of stuff.

Posted by JasonR86

@Manhattan_Project said:

@JasonR86 said:

@Manhattan_Project said:

@JasonR86 said:

It amazes me what people will let slide with COD games but demonizes when other games do it. The GB guys sounded like a bunch of miserable fucks who wanted to dislike the game before they even started it. There's nothing this game could have done that would have outweighed their preconceptions. They didn't act like professionals.

As someone who no longer buys any CoD, even I can see that those games either do something kinda interesting (BLOPS) or are have explosions every 50 feet (MW3). This game just looks fucking boring.

This has a pretty neat looking cover system, nice graphics, variety in play (to some degree anyway) and environments, at least an interesting idea for a story (whether it pays off or not is unclear), and more open environments which would allow for different approaches to enemies with multiple levels for fighting and areas for flanking compared to COD even if Brad was unable to figure out how to do so. There are some cool things here that may or may not pay off but people need to drop their cynicism first before they can give those things an honest shoot (no pun intended).

That cover system is old, the graphics aren't anything special and if by variety you mean a waaaaay too long and scripted driving sequence then you are grasping at straws. As for the "open enviroment" I have no idea what you are seeing, it looks just as "open" as any other military FPS.

Opinions man. You and I are just interpreting this shit different ways. But my point still stands. These dudes didn't want to like this game and there was nothing this game could have done that would have changed their minds.

Posted by FZackM

Wait, I can't tell if this is Call of Duty or Battlefield. Are they sure they didn't play the wrong game?

Posted by Shovat

@Manhattan_Project said:

@JasonR86 said:

@Manhattan_Project said:

@JasonR86 said:

It amazes me what people will let slide with COD games but demonizes when other games do it. The GB guys sounded like a bunch of miserable fucks who wanted to dislike the game before they even started it. There's nothing this game could have done that would have outweighed their preconceptions. They didn't act like professionals.

As someone who no longer buys any CoD, even I can see that those games either do something kinda interesting (BLOPS) or are have explosions every 50 feet (MW3). This game just looks fucking boring.

This has a pretty neat looking cover system, nice graphics, variety in play (to some degree anyway) and environments, at least an interesting idea for a story (whether it pays off or not is unclear), and more open environments which would allow for different approaches to enemies with multiple levels for fighting and areas for flanking compared to COD even if Brad was unable to figure out how to do so. There are some cool things here that may or may not pay off but people need to drop their cynicism first before they can give those things an honest shoot (no pun intended).

That cover system is old, the graphics aren't anything special and if by variety you mean a waaaaay too long and scripted driving sequence then you are grasping at straws. As for the "open enviroment" I have no idea what you are seeing, it looks just as "open" as any other military FPS.

So much anger. Shooters are basically generic and have been for years (probably before the abortion that is the phrase "COD clone"). You either buy new ones for better graphics, different game play or you get over the genre entirely. Stop being pathetic children.

Posted by AlisterCat

I'm liking the cinematic approach to this rather than Call of Duty, but I haven't played this kind of game in a while.

Posted by Manhattan_Project

@JasonR86 said:

@Manhattan_Project said:

@JasonR86 said:

@Manhattan_Project said:

@JasonR86 said:

It amazes me what people will let slide with COD games but demonizes when other games do it. The GB guys sounded like a bunch of miserable fucks who wanted to dislike the game before they even started it. There's nothing this game could have done that would have outweighed their preconceptions. They didn't act like professionals.

As someone who no longer buys any CoD, even I can see that those games either do something kinda interesting (BLOPS) or are have explosions every 50 feet (MW3). This game just looks fucking boring.

This has a pretty neat looking cover system, nice graphics, variety in play (to some degree anyway) and environments, at least an interesting idea for a story (whether it pays off or not is unclear), and more open environments which would allow for different approaches to enemies with multiple levels for fighting and areas for flanking compared to COD even if Brad was unable to figure out how to do so. There are some cool things here that may or may not pay off but people need to drop their cynicism first before they can give those things an honest shoot (no pun intended).

That cover system is old, the graphics aren't anything special and if by variety you mean a waaaaay too long and scripted driving sequence then you are grasping at straws. As for the "open enviroment" I have no idea what you are seeing, it looks just as "open" as any other military FPS.

Opinions man. You and I are just interpreting this shit different ways. But my point still stands. These dudes didn't want to like this game and there was nothing this game could have done that would have changed their minds.

So now its "opinions" but before it was lack of professionalism. Okay.

Edited by sirdesmond

@MordeaniisChaos: You seem far too upset about this whole thing.

Posted by Kubelwagen

It seems like they've given this to Brad as some sort of cruel joke to the rest of us. He just misses any prompts, and doesn't seem to intuitively get how modern shooters work.

Also: Stop reloading so much!

Edited by JasonR86

@Manhattan_Project said:

@JasonR86 said:

@Manhattan_Project said:

@JasonR86 said:

@Manhattan_Project said:

@JasonR86 said:

It amazes me what people will let slide with COD games but demonizes when other games do it. The GB guys sounded like a bunch of miserable fucks who wanted to dislike the game before they even started it. There's nothing this game could have done that would have outweighed their preconceptions. They didn't act like professionals.

As someone who no longer buys any CoD, even I can see that those games either do something kinda interesting (BLOPS) or are have explosions every 50 feet (MW3). This game just looks fucking boring.

This has a pretty neat looking cover system, nice graphics, variety in play (to some degree anyway) and environments, at least an interesting idea for a story (whether it pays off or not is unclear), and more open environments which would allow for different approaches to enemies with multiple levels for fighting and areas for flanking compared to COD even if Brad was unable to figure out how to do so. There are some cool things here that may or may not pay off but people need to drop their cynicism first before they can give those things an honest shoot (no pun intended).

That cover system is old, the graphics aren't anything special and if by variety you mean a waaaaay too long and scripted driving sequence then you are grasping at straws. As for the "open enviroment" I have no idea what you are seeing, it looks just as "open" as any other military FPS.

Opinions man. You and I are just interpreting this shit different ways. But my point still stands. These dudes didn't want to like this game and there was nothing this game could have done that would have changed their minds.

So now its "opinions" but before it was lack of professionalism. Okay.

Dude. 'Opinions' between you and I regarding our impressions of the game. 'Lack of professionalism' in that they were ready to dislike the game before the game even had a chance to leave an impression. 'Lack of professionalism' in that there was nothing the game could have done that would have outweighed the guys' preconceptions.

@Shovat:

Don't enter a conversation between two people just to insult them.

Posted by rebgav

@BeachThunder said:

Honestly, the driving level looked surprisingly cool :o

Don't worry, they fuck it up with a driving stealth section later which looks terrible.

Posted by WolfHazard

I'm shocked and depressed by the amount of non pizza folding going on in this video

Posted by Manhattan_Project

@Shovat said:

@Manhattan_Project said:

@JasonR86 said:

@Manhattan_Project said:

@JasonR86 said:

It amazes me what people will let slide with COD games but demonizes when other games do it. The GB guys sounded like a bunch of miserable fucks who wanted to dislike the game before they even started it. There's nothing this game could have done that would have outweighed their preconceptions. They didn't act like professionals.

As someone who no longer buys any CoD, even I can see that those games either do something kinda interesting (BLOPS) or are have explosions every 50 feet (MW3). This game just looks fucking boring.

This has a pretty neat looking cover system, nice graphics, variety in play (to some degree anyway) and environments, at least an interesting idea for a story (whether it pays off or not is unclear), and more open environments which would allow for different approaches to enemies with multiple levels for fighting and areas for flanking compared to COD even if Brad was unable to figure out how to do so. There are some cool things here that may or may not pay off but people need to drop their cynicism first before they can give those things an honest shoot (no pun intended).

That cover system is old, the graphics aren't anything special and if by variety you mean a waaaaay too long and scripted driving sequence then you are grasping at straws. As for the "open enviroment" I have no idea what you are seeing, it looks just as "open" as any other military FPS.

So much anger. Shooters are basically generic and have been for years (probably before the abortion that is the phrase "COD clone"). You either buy new ones for better graphics, different game play or you get over the genre entirely. Stop being pathetic children.

Whats your point? You know besides insulting people like a child.

Posted by Sanjuro82

Wow! I didn't realize that Patrick was so young until now!

Posted by bigevil1987

Not unexpected, but I'm still a little sad that this seems much more like COD than the previous game. I actually enjoyed the MOH reboot because it had a different pace and feel than COD.

Posted by ch3burashka

Global terror networks: why don't they just get a life?

Posted by Manhattan_Project

@JasonR86: How do you know they had already made up their minds? Is it really impossible for them to have seen the same type of opening every military FPS has and be incredibly bored by it?

Posted by BD_Mr_Bubbles

This was awsome live.

Posted by JasonR86

@Manhattan_Project said:

@JasonR86: How do you know they had already made up their minds? Is it really impossible for them to have seen the same type of opening every military FPS has and be incredibly bored by it?

I can't know for sure. It was my personal impression while watching the video. They were bitching before the game even got going. The fact that they have seen so many military FPS games should be considered by them and they should attempt to keep that separate from their impression of the game. It's akin to me as a mental health therapist telling a depressed person to just get over it because they aren't as depressed as the last person I saw. Every person, just like every game, is unique no matter how reminiscent it might seem on the surface to something else. As someone who played the last MOH game it was a very different game then COD simply in how it felt and its pace. It wasn't better or worse. It was simply different.

I got the impression that the guys weren't going to consider their military FPS fatigue and attempt to hold that off to give the game the benefit of the doubt until they know otherwise. I understand that a quick look isn't meant to be a review and sometimes careful consideration slides. And I know that there are all sorts of other games where the guys do this exact same thing and I don't care and even find it entertaining. But somehow their treatment of this game bothered me. It was like I was listening to that whiny forum guy who yells about how everything sucks and everyone else sucks for liking the things that he feels sucks.

But it also looks like I'm in the minority here so there's that.

Posted by Phished0ne

@thebigJ_A said:

This could only be more boring if it was Call of Duty.

It must suck to have made one of these after Spec Ops The Line did what it did. Unless you're utterly without self awareness.

If you don't know what Spec Ops did, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlBrenhzMZI

I recommend that dude's other vids, too.

I dont think anyone at the big publishers payed any attention to Spec Ops. I would imagine they shrug off the idea that the game is basically a deconstruction of shooters and the heavy storyline by saying "yeah well look how it sold". Its a shame that 2K took a risk like that and didnt get more sales based solely on word of mouth. Shame Spec Ops couldn't have been a better game in the end. The clunkyness of it really didnt do it any favors to it.

Posted by Rlpp

generic first person shooting war game #328 ?

Posted by TehChich

The pizza rave makes me all kinds of happy.

Posted by Manhattan_Project

@JasonR86 said:

@Manhattan_Project said:

@JasonR86: How do you know they had already made up their minds? Is it really impossible for them to have seen the same type of opening every military FPS has and be incredibly bored by it?

I can't know for sure. It was my personal impression while watching the video. They were bitching before the game even got going. The fact that they have seen so many military FPS games should be considered by them and they should attempt to keep that separate from their impression of the game. It's akin to me as a mental health therapist telling a depressed person to just get over it because they aren't as depressed as the last person I saw. Every person, just like every game, is unique no matter how reminiscent it might seem on the surface to something else. As someone who played the last MOH game it was a very different game then COD simply in how it felt and its pace. It wasn't better or worse. It was simply different.

I got the impression that the guys weren't going to consider their military FPS fatigue and attempt to hold that off to give the game the benefit of the doubt until they know otherwise. I understand that a quick look isn't meant to be a review and sometimes careful consideration slides. And I know that there are all sorts of other games where the guys do this exact same thing and I don't care and even find it entertaining. But somehow their treatment of this game bothered me. It was like I was listening to that whiny forum guy who yells about how everything sucks and everyone else sucks for liking the things that he feels sucks.

But it also looks like I'm in the minority here so there's that.

They were pretty much tired of Halo until they saw that Halo 4 actually looked like it might bring something different and, if I remeber correctly, they were also tired of CoD until they saw the upcoming BLOPS might do something different. With MoHW I have yet to read anything on any other sites I visit that says it is doing anything interesting. All the preview coverage I see basically says "they made it more like CoD."

Posted by Aegeri

Honestly, I am surprised anyone thinks that yet another generic military shooter - unless it really pulls a rabbit out of the hat after this first hour - is going to get anyone enthused anymore. Criticism of bias against this game will ring hollow if they approach Black Ops 2 with the same degree of trepidation. Also I just got to the bit where you follow around an NPC in a stealth section. This new and thrilling gameplay is just so incredible! My enthusiasm is truly endless!

Posted by LegendaryChopChop

BRAD BEARD

Edited by vinsanityv22

Man - right off the bat, disappointed. I was REALLY hoping Giantbomb would play some without the patch, than maybe fade out, download it, and come back. I just want to see the contrast - EA's patch notes make the game sound totally inept and unfinished without it.

At 11:51 -- oh man, that is so great! Even the A.I. isn't on Team Brad! lol. Don't feel bad, Brad - it's not worth it to get good at this game. Danger Close has shown, once again, they suck at designing games. Gotta love the dumb "video gamey" shit here; like the horrible storytelling (everything seems to be "Two Weeks Ago"), the double tutorials at the beginning (like this is any different than the last 87 military shooters), the way the shipping containers explode in just such a way to form a very linear path in the first 5 minutes of the game, or GOING PRONE ON WATER... this game is complete shit. Overproduced, underdeveloped, uninteresting. It's actually not even bad enough to be entertaining.

Although it's frustrating the way Brad scans a battlefield while looking through his scope. You know you can see more of the battlefield WITHOUT that up, right? And that you only zoom in to actually shoot the guys once you know where they are?

Alright, 29:17 in, I'm done. Seen enough. Waste of time. Good Quick Lookin' guys, just... what a game that doesn't need to exist.

Posted by Ketchupp

I enjoy how Patrick talks about "scripting" as if it isn't basically in every video game.

Posted by JasonR86

@Manhattan_Project said:

@JasonR86 said:

@Manhattan_Project said:

@JasonR86: How do you know they had already made up their minds? Is it really impossible for them to have seen the same type of opening every military FPS has and be incredibly bored by it?

I can't know for sure. It was my personal impression while watching the video. They were bitching before the game even got going. The fact that they have seen so many military FPS games should be considered by them and they should attempt to keep that separate from their impression of the game. It's akin to me as a mental health therapist telling a depressed person to just get over it because they aren't as depressed as the last person I saw. Every person, just like every game, is unique no matter how reminiscent it might seem on the surface to something else. As someone who played the last MOH game it was a very different game then COD simply in how it felt and its pace. It wasn't better or worse. It was simply different.

I got the impression that the guys weren't going to consider their military FPS fatigue and attempt to hold that off to give the game the benefit of the doubt until they know otherwise. I understand that a quick look isn't meant to be a review and sometimes careful consideration slides. And I know that there are all sorts of other games where the guys do this exact same thing and I don't care and even find it entertaining. But somehow their treatment of this game bothered me. It was like I was listening to that whiny forum guy who yells about how everything sucks and everyone else sucks for liking the things that he feels sucks.

But it also looks like I'm in the minority here so there's that.

They were pretty much tired of Halo until they saw that Halo 4 actually looked like it might bring something different and, if I remeber correctly, they were also tired of CoD until they saw the upcoming BLOPS might do something different. With MoHW I have yet to read anything on any other sites I visit that says it is doing anything interesting. All the preview coverage I see basically says "they made it more like CoD."

The thing is this doesn't look like COD to me. It looks more like Battlefield then COD. The movement is more measured. The shooting looks heavier and slower. It looks like a different game. If it is COD because it is a modern military shooter with scripted sequences then that is one hell of a simplification.

Edited by Aegeri

So you don't think the gameplay sequences taken right from CoD, even going so far as to be structured almost identically - albeit their driving sequence was really fun looking compared to CoD where it often doesn't even let you drive - doesn't give it away as CoD. I mean it starts with a small action packed level at night in the rain, transitioning into a timed training section, with a beach landing, with breaching in slow motion, to a section with a robot, to a driving sequence and then to a follow the NPC stealth section. Should I tell you that is almost a perfect description of the beginning sequences of [insert modern warfare sequel here] or is it sufficiently obvious yet? Your argument is the equivalent at looking at a pine forest and then looking at a redwood forest, saying that the trees look different and failing to note in both cases you're still looking at a bloody forest.