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Posted by dr_mantas

@Humanity said:

@somethingdumb said:

@Humanity said:

@somethingdumb said:

@oturista said:

Sorry, quicklooks with Patrick bum me out... he's too over-eager... annoying. Thank God for Brad!

yeah, I hate when people like what they do, too

It's not that - I don't like Patrick either but I can't put my finger on it. Just seems like Patrick doesn't give anything a chance and then just rails on it. When Ryan and Vinny play the worst of games its still super fun to watch.

I was kidding, I like Patrick

Oh, I .. I was kidding too...

Seriously though, I don't like him on Quick Looks but different strokes for different folks.

Sure, I for one think he adds something Quick Looks or live stuff. He doesn't bother me at all.

Edited by Theresonlyone

Hmm they seem to be making excuses for a lot of the problems. The fact they keep harping on about the graphics makes me think there isn't much else of note.

Posted by kingzetta

Looks waaay overly generic and boring.
A game being really pretty, stopped being a major selling point years ago.

Posted by Afroman269

Looks like something I can wait for to drop in price or be in a steam sale.

Posted by somethingdumb

@dr_mantas said:

@Humanity said:

@somethingdumb said:

@Humanity said:

@somethingdumb said:

@oturista said:

Sorry, quicklooks with Patrick bum me out... he's too over-eager... annoying. Thank God for Brad!

yeah, I hate when people like what they do, too

It's not that - I don't like Patrick either but I can't put my finger on it. Just seems like Patrick doesn't give anything a chance and then just rails on it. When Ryan and Vinny play the worst of games its still super fun to watch.

I was kidding, I like Patrick

Oh, I .. I was kidding too...

Seriously though, I don't like him on Quick Looks but different strokes for different folks.

Sure, I for one think he adds something Quick Looks or live stuff. He doesn't bother me at all.

I very much enjoy Patrick

Posted by MooseyMcMan

I don't know why so many people are hating on this game, I think it looks rad. Can't wait to play it.

Posted by BombaLuigi

i can barely resist to flag like 70% on these ql's comments, NO ONE FUCKING CARES IF YOU LIKE PATRICK OR NOT, get your shit together people (also, he is fine :P)...

that said... i like what i see, its an id game, so its "shooting at things till they die"... also, it looks incredible... and i wanna stab everyone in the face (shank style) who compares this game to fallout or borderlands... dont you make this mistake in that review brad..

Posted by Eaxis

Patrick brings a lot to quick looks and i'm actually quite looking forward to getting my hands on rage for some good dumb shooting arcade racing fun.

Posted by ComradeCrash

Ah! The first time Brad stabbed himself, I almost dropped my cereal! lol

Posted by BlazeHedgehog

Re: Texture streaming, HDD speeds, and so on

The HDD in my Xbox is the same one that's been in there since 2006. My cousin has a newer HDD. When we play Gears of War, it takes me almost a full 3-4 seconds longer than him to load in to the map, and noticeably longer for textures to pop in.

Posted by leinad44

I hate it when people whine when somebody different is on quicklooks. Are you people so insecure that you cannot accept any kind of change?

Posted by CptBedlam

@sirdesmond said:

This game looks super generic and just really, really not interesting.

@kingzetta said:

Looks waaay overly generic and boring. A game being really pretty, stopped being a major selling point years ago.

Yeah the game looks so fucking generic. A whole three other games already did the Wasteland/MadMax scenario within the last 10 years. I so sick of it. I'll probably get MW3 or BF3 instead... *sigh*

Posted by Cloudenvy

@MooseyMcMan said:

I don't know why so many people are hating on this game, I think it looks rad. Can't wait to play it.

Well, hating and hating, in my case it just looks like a pretty generic first person shooter set in the wasteland.

Posted by Sharpshooter

Did anyone else get the Aliens reference?

Posted by darkjester74

Not sure where all the hate is coming from. This game is pretty much exactly what I expected. What did people think this was going to be? Its an id shooter, people, manage your expectations. Anyway, I'm excited to get my copy.

Posted by Peacemaker

I was going to preorder it but I'm glad I waited. I'll just wait for the price to drop, I'm still having too much fun with Gears and Arkham City is coming out in a few weeks.

Posted by kingzetta
@CptBedlam said:

@sirdesmond said:

This game looks super generic and just really, really not interesting.

@kingzetta said:

Looks waaay overly generic and boring. A game being really pretty, stopped being a major selling point years ago.

Yeah the game looks so fucking generic. A whole three other games already did the Wasteland/MadMax scenario within the last 10 years. I so sick of it. I'll probably get MW3 or BF3 instead... *sigh*

Well I am sick of it sorry. I also never said MW3 or BF3 were good either, assuming makes makes an ass out of you. With all your frantic defending of rage makes me think, your just trying to keep your denial in tack.
Posted by darkjester74

@The_Hiro_Abides said:

season pass, you save 50%

You've been absolved Patrick.

Looks like there was two sets of dialog going on simultaneously, seems like it was in reference to the car races in the game.

Posted by 71Ranchero

The younger games stand out like a sore thumb when games like this roll around. Go ahead and stick with your MW3 and your BF3. Frankly I feel the same about your shitty as games as you do about mine.

Edited by CptBedlam

@kingzetta said:

@CptBedlam said:

@sirdesmond said:

This game looks super generic and just really, really not interesting.

@kingzetta said:

Looks waaay overly generic and boring. A game being really pretty, stopped being a major selling point years ago.

Yeah the game looks so fucking generic. A whole three other games already did the Wasteland/MadMax scenario within the last 10 years. I so sick of it. I'll probably get MW3 or BF3 instead... *sigh*

Well I am sick of it sorry. I also never said MW3 or BF3 were good either, assuming makes makes an ass out of you. With all your frantic defending of rage makes me think, your just trying to keep your denial in tack.

I'm only defending it against the idiotic "looks generic" complaints because, no, it doesn't look generic. Actually it looks highly unique and the art style is fantastic. If I saw a random screenshot of Rage, there'd be no chance I would mistake it for any other game. Something that can't be said for a whole lot of other games which didn't get the "looks generic" complaints.

It's play mechanics may be generic, but that's not what I was referring to.

Posted by Hairydutchman

Rage never looked that special to me. I'll probably buy it for cheap because of the 60fps shooting action and the incredible animations.

Posted by alibson

@IG__:

Well, on consoles with 512MB RAM we have to steam in textures from the hard drive and PCs today have like 4GB or more, so... we'll just load that into RAM, right?
Dude what? PC? Pssshhh whatever man
Posted by Nocall

pass

Edited by Thiago123

Well the reviews coming in have been somewhat disappointing, the primary one I read was joystiq's, though it's still currently sporting a green metacritic rating.  I don't think my expectations were too high based on what I had seen, but some of the fundamental things shown may have definetly been blown out of proportion such as the open world nature of the game.  The lack of traditional multiplayer was known, but it's even more disappointing coming from id and in light of the seemingly lacking single player.  This became apparent with the strict embargo until today.
 
Still, I will be getting my copy today from Amazon and will be excited to try it for myself.  I grew up on Doom shareware and qcrack.exe, so there was no chance that I would not be buying a new id IP on release.  Well, they get the benefit of my doubt for jaded reviewers...this time. 
 
I should say I wrote this before watching the QL and I am feeling a bit better listening to Brad as I know he shares the same passion for id.
Posted by hbkdx12

Granted this game was never really on my radar to begin with (and still isn't) it's kind of annoying watching this QL. 
 
They seem like their gushing over the good things and that it almost pains them to be objective and list the bad things (pop-in, linearity, writing, no indication of quests or maps) in the same light 
 
I understand the track record of the developer and what not  and the hype surrounding this game but its hard to feel like the weight of their opinions weren't a little lopsided

Posted by kingzetta
@CptBedlam said:

@kingzetta said:

@CptBedlam said:

@sirdesmond said:

This game looks super generic and just really, really not interesting.

@kingzetta said:

Looks waaay overly generic and boring. A game being really pretty, stopped being a major selling point years ago.

Yeah the game looks so fucking generic. A whole three other games already did the Wasteland/MadMax scenario within the last 10 years. I so sick of it. I'll probably get MW3 or BF3 instead... *sigh*

Well I am sick of it sorry. I also never said MW3 or BF3 were good either, assuming makes makes an ass out of you. With all your frantic defending of rage makes me think, your just trying to keep your denial in tack.

I'm only defending it against the idiotic "looks generic" complaints because, no, it doesn't look generic. Actually it looks highly unique and the art style is fantastic. If I saw a random screenshot of Rage, there'd be no chance I would mistake it for any other game. Something that can't be said for a whole lot of other games which didn't get the "looks generic" complaints.

It's play mechanics may be generic, but that's not what I was referring to.

Well that's you, I think it looks exactly like borderlands.
Posted by CptBedlam

@kingzetta said:

@CptBedlam said:

@kingzetta said:

@CptBedlam said:

@sirdesmond said:

This game looks super generic and just really, really not interesting.

@kingzetta said:

Looks waaay overly generic and boring. A game being really pretty, stopped being a major selling point years ago.

Yeah the game looks so fucking generic. A whole three other games already did the Wasteland/MadMax scenario within the last 10 years. I so sick of it. I'll probably get MW3 or BF3 instead... *sigh*

Well I am sick of it sorry. I also never said MW3 or BF3 were good either, assuming makes makes an ass out of you. With all your frantic defending of rage makes me think, your just trying to keep your denial in tack.

I'm only defending it against the idiotic "looks generic" complaints because, no, it doesn't look generic. Actually it looks highly unique and the art style is fantastic. If I saw a random screenshot of Rage, there'd be no chance I would mistake it for any other game. Something that can't be said for a whole lot of other games which didn't get the "looks generic" complaints.

It's play mechanics may be generic, but that's not what I was referring to.

Well that's you, I think it looks exactly like borderlands.

Well, you're wrong. This looks nothing like Borderlands. The only similarity is the scenario which Borderlands -like most other games with a Wasteland scenario (basically the Fallouts)- also borrowed from Mad Max.

Posted by sirdesmond

@CptBedlam: More than anything, what I meant with my original comment was that pretty much all of the gameplay mechanics seem very repetitive and generic. While the art style does look good, it certainly isn't anything wildly different than what we've seen in a lot of other games. Also, I'm not sure why you are hold @kingzetta and myself responsible for the comments made by other people on these "othere games" that you refer to as not getting the "look generic" complaint.

Also, we can have a difference of opinion, and it doesn't mean either of us are "idiotic."

Also also, you said "three other games already did the Wasteland/MadMax scenario within the last 10 years." Fallout 3 came out in 2008, Borderlands in 2009, Fallout: New Vegas in 2010, Fallen Earth in 2009 (not exactly AAA, I know). That's at least 4 that I can think of in the last 3 years so it is more concentrated than you seem to think. That said, if you like it than you like it.

Posted by Fizzy

Awesome, hopefully picking this up soon.

Posted by ItsAJackal

Yall are crazy. As long as Alex no longer does Quick Looks, I'm fine with everyone else. Jeff + Vinny is my favorite combo, but they are all great.

In regards to the game...meh. The graphics look fantastic, but the gameplay just doesn't grab me. Too many other great games out there right now that are yelling for my $$ and time.

Posted by PenguinDust

Looks okay but it still doesn't really excite me right now. It's on my "maybe someday" list.

Posted by dvorak

Sure wish my PC version looked like this, and not completely fucked up buggy trash.

Posted by Sackmanjones
@Thiago123:  Metacritic is not super accurtae, their grading system 1 to 5 scales is kinda fucked but don't worry I got the my copy and I think its fantastic =)
Posted by DostoyevskysShamblingCorpse

I know people hate to hear this, but this looks hella like Borderlands. And without the 4 player co-op or loot, regardless of the superior mechanics, a lot of people won't even bother to give it a look. I don't hate the fact this game exists, I just really wish this hadn't been the thing id had been working on for so long.

Edited by IronRinn

Pretty sure the "season pass" line was part of the subtitles for the announcer on the PA system talking about the races, which you can hear in the background. They mixed it in with the other subtitles for some strange reason. The font is a faint yellow to differentiate it.

Posted by CptBedlam

@DostoyevskysShamblingCorpse said:

I know people hate to hear this, but this looks hella like Borderlands. And without the 4 player co-op or loot, regardless of the superior mechanics, a lot of people won't even bother to give it a look. I don't hate the fact this game exists, I just really wish this hadn't been the thing id had been working on for so long.

So every game set in a Wasteland scenario has to be loot driven or an rpg because of Borderlands and Fallout?

What's wrong about having a standard-ish shooter set in the Wasteland?

Posted by VWGTI

RATEDMFORMATUREALLWASQUIETANDTHENEVERYTHINGWENTCRAZY(CUE SHITTY MUSIC) x 1000

Posted by Humanity

@somethingdumb said:

@dr_mantas said:

@Humanity said:

@somethingdumb said:

@Humanity said:

@somethingdumb said:

@oturista said:

Sorry, quicklooks with Patrick bum me out... he's too over-eager... annoying. Thank God for Brad!

yeah, I hate when people like what they do, too

It's not that - I don't like Patrick either but I can't put my finger on it. Just seems like Patrick doesn't give anything a chance and then just rails on it. When Ryan and Vinny play the worst of games its still super fun to watch.

I was kidding, I like Patrick

Oh, I .. I was kidding too...

Seriously though, I don't like him on Quick Looks but different strokes for different folks.

Sure, I for one think he adds something Quick Looks or live stuff. He doesn't bother me at all.

I very much enjoy Patrick

Ryan/Vinny for life

Posted by DostoyevskysShamblingCorpse

@CptBedlam: That's not what I want, I'll take an id wasteland shooter every year. I'm just afraid that it looks so much like Borderlands (I don't see Fallout comparison in this at all) that general consumers will expect to have those other features without giving it a chance. I think we're seeing that in the early reviews too, where a lot of journalists can't get over what they hoped it would be. I think they're wrong and stupid, but that's just what I see happening.

Posted by gorkamorkaorka

It's total bullshit that you see that quests don't give you levels and you think "that's lame" because games aren't about gameplay. They are about seeing numbers get bigger.

Edited by Thiago123

OK so for those of you that have gotten this for 360:

 

I know the game is 3 discs...my understanding is that discs 1 & 2 are single player and disc 3 is multiplayer.  It is recommended that you install the game for faster loads/textures and that you can do it one disc at a time.  I have the space so if I install I will likely do both discs.  Questions:

 

1) Is anyone running it without the install?  How are the pop-ins and load times?

2) I heard the total install is 22 GBs...is this accurate for 2 discs or is that including disc 3? - OK Serves me right for not finishing watching before posting, Brad states the 20GB+ is for all 3 discs.

3) Is there any reason to install the multiplayer disc?  The last game that I remember recommending an install for multiplayer was Halo: Reach but I never did because any benefit was dependant on ALL players having an install anyway...

 

Thanks for the input.

Posted by Drebin_893

I really wanted to like this game but I don't think I do. At all.

And I swear it doesn't actually look very good?

Posted by Deathpooky

For me it's not just the setting and characters that look generic (though extremely well animated and graphically done). It's also the gameplay. Complain about the generic "modern military shooter" but at least those games have cinematic events and setpieces to break up the action and drive you forward.

Pretty much all shooters have something as an extra draw - story, setting, setpieces, RPG mechanics, exploration, etc. There wasn't anything here but "go to X, corridor crawl through bandits/mutants, look at great graphics along the way." And the events outside the rather basic combat sequences just seem like tacked on padding, not actual contributors to the gameplay.

Posted by Roodog

@r3t: I was about to say the same thing.

Edited by kingzetta
@CptBedlam: You should go play it and have fun, instead of trying to convincing people that don't think it looks as good as you think it does.
Posted by Sammo21

I love brad, but his hyperbole about games makes me laugh sometimes. Everything is to the tenth level, lol.

Posted by triviaman09

If Fallout 3 looked like this, I'm pretty sure it would come on like 12 discs.

Posted by JillSammich

GAH! Fucking Dead Island...

Posted by Neverpraying

This game looks good, and seems to be good. I'll personally just went it tho, the lack of a map makes me kind of annoyed, and having to talk to every NPC would drive me insane.

Posted by MagusMaleficus

For the curious: The actor Vinny refers to in the video is Michael Berryman, who was born with hypohidrotic ectodermal dysplasia, which means he cannot grow hair; does not have fingernails or sweat glands; etc.