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Posted by Rmack

 Hipster trash pandering to anyone who likes anime or video games and feels misunderstood by girls presented by a completely unlikable main character and 40 video game/"hip" buzzwords on every page. Sickening. It is doing to men what Twilight does to women.    

Edited by teh_pwnzorer
@squidracerX said:

" Maybe not for everyone, but hmmmm really oddly negative quick look on a movie tie-in game based on a property that you admit to not reading or knowing anything about? I mean the game is really for fans of the movie and comic right? And let me tell you if you are one of those this is AWESOME. Also lets compare this to the Iron Man or Kick Ass or Watchmen movie tie-in games... This is 100 times better and more original than those were. (I know its based on River City Ransom, but the idea and style is still original). The jokes and fan service are fun and should be right up your ally. Why are you not happy seeing mega man looking buildings and Mario coin boxes and 8-bit music?  I mean as you say i nthe quick look they involved the active 8-bit fan community making the music. Its not a phone in.
 
Plus I have wanted a River City remake for years and no one makes one for some reason, i have the stupid game boy advance version on my gamecube gameboy player but there is no 2 player (since its a gameboy game). So this is really awesome guys. Brad never played that so he should play this! I mean I hear Brad saying he was down on modern brawlers, and even Castle Crashers; well yeah I get it we played a lot of those in our lives. We had Turtles and Simpsons arcade, and Double Dragon and Bad Dudes on NES back in the day - but for a lot of kids they haven't played those games, they are getting castle crashers and this as their brawlers. this might be their X-men the arcade game. It certainly looks better than the games we had back in the day anyway, and for a $10 nostalgic filled movie tie-in game i think it looks great! gonna go buy it now! "

Quoted for truth. 
Posted by HedinnWeis

I love this game. Been playing it with my girlfriend. Once you start leveling up and getting more moves the game gets even better.

Edited by Drainoslushy
@Crushed said:

" @Drainoslushy said:

" No idea why fans of this have to get so cringeworthy defensive when it's quite obvious how weak this would look to anyone else. "

I have never read a Scott Pilgrim book and have no plans to watch the movie, but this looks like a great game to me. "
Well there's no accounting for taste.
 
Maybe i should have said people cringeworthingly defensive because they can't cope with another person's opinion.
Posted by Crushed
@Drainoslushy said:
" Well there's no accounting for taste. "
I actually know a lot of people who are in the same boat.
Posted by teh_pwnzorer
@Drainoslushy said:
" @Crushed said:

" @Drainoslushy said:

" No idea why fans of this have to get so cringeworthy defensive when it's quite obvious how weak this would look to anyone else. "
I have never read a Scott Pilgrim book and have no plans to watch the movie, but this looks like a great game to me. "
Well there's no accounting for taste.
 
Maybe i should have said people cringeworthingly defensive because they can't cope with another person's opinion, like our embarrassingly named frothing oddball  teh_pwnzorer down there. "
Why not address me directly, asshole?
Posted by mutha3
@patrick said:
" @DukeTogo said:
" @mutha3 said:
" @Spunkrake: Yeah. From time too time these guys have really, really weird hipster douchebag moments. "
Odd that you would say that, when it's this game and everything about it that is hipster douchebag at its most raw form.  Hipsters hate on stuff that is mainstream and lame, but hipster douchebaggery is in fact now mainstream and lame, so in a weird form of snake eating itself, the hipsters have become the very thing they rage against.  River City Ransom and the Kunio Kun games were awesome, it was a distinct style of that era.  Ripping it off is lame and dirty, and downright actionable as far as I'm concerned. "
Hipster is a completely arbitrary term people like to throw around when they're not clever enough to properly describe what it is that's actually wrong. mutha3 was likely making the point that it's ironic for Jeff and crew to look down on something for being so heavily referential when the source material is something they're so attuned to.
 I mean the guys occasionally have these weird ass moments where they're like'' Oh referencing this videogame thing, how childish. this has never been done before*insert several groans*''
 
Then they have a bombcast episode where they talk about arcade machines for like an hour of its running time.
 
@Drainoslushy said:
" No idea why fans of this have to get so cringeworthy defensive when it's quite obvious how weak this would look to anyone else. T

I'm ain't no Scott Pilgrim fan. Never even heard of it until the movie trailers came out.
 
I think this game looks cool.
Posted by Drainoslushy

No doubt, i know plenty of guys who'd be into this game. 
 
People have different tastes. You and me understand that. :)

Edited by wrecks

Really have no current interest in the movie, but for a movie tie in game.. YES. More tie-ins should do this kind of thing. Waaaay better than anything Gameroom is doing or has done. And a huge improvement at least in concept over what most movie games manage to do. 
 
I mean this or the Watchmen game? No contest.

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Posted by TadThuggish
@patrick said:
" @DukeTogo said:
" @mutha3 said:
" @Spunkrake: Yeah. From time too time these guys have really, really weird hipster douchebag moments. "
Odd that you would say that, when it's this game and everything about it that is hipster douchebag at its most raw form.  Hipsters hate on stuff that is mainstream and lame, but hipster douchebaggery is in fact now mainstream and lame, so in a weird form of snake eating itself, the hipsters have become the very thing they rage against.  River City Ransom and the Kunio Kun games were awesome, it was a distinct style of that era.  Ripping it off is lame and dirty, and downright actionable as far as I'm concerned. "
Hipster is a completely arbitrary term people like to throw around when they're not clever enough to properly describe what it is that's actually wrong. mutha3 was likely making the point that it's ironic for Jeff and crew to look down on something for being so heavily referential when the source material is something they're so attuned to. They talk about arcade games more than PC gaming (sans the SC2 talk), but they aren't hipsters for considering PC gaming second tier to consoles.  Ripping off implies that there's a complete disregard to the source material, which obviously isn't the case. "
"Hipster" is the new "gay".  It doesn't mean anything, but is a word used to describe someone you don't like without having the vocabulary to describe why that is.  This doesn't even bring up that this entire site is BASED around referencing old video games, and having fun.  It's what's so appealing about Giant Bomb instead of a GameSpot or IGN.  You have detailed Lode Runner pages, whereas everywhere else only cares about the new, $60 product and FUCK all that old gay shit!  Scott Pilgrim may be "cooler" than Giant Bomb, it may have more girls with dyed hair and a bigger fanbase, but it runs on the same engine.  A man in a Xevious shirt saying how awful it is for River City Ransom to be referenced is a whole new level of hypocrisy I never even fathomed.
Posted by CaptainFish

I don't see why being like River City Ransom is a bad thing. This looks like a good homage.

Posted by Olivaw

This game looks alright.
 
I don't like hipsters very much, though. And that's all that Scott Pilgrim seems to be, is pure, unadulterated, hipsterism.
 
It's just so fuckin' indie that at some point I have to wonder if it's intentionally being that way or if the person who wrote it has no self awareness.

Posted by Eaxis

Luchadeer on the coins.
Posted by Allison

How do you get two guys together and NOT have two controllers?
 
This game becomes progressively more fun the more people you have together playing. I can't really say heads or tails about Scott Pilgrim or RCR (yes run that into the ground, PLEASE)  but I had a blast playing this exact demo stage with a buddy.
 
But seriously there is a lot of hatred for a game that nobody is asking you to play, Giant Bomb community.

Posted by electricfuture
@BenderUnit22: 
 
Yeah I can never guess when Jeff is gonna love/hate something. He's so unpredictable! 
But personally I think this game is great for 10$. The music alone is worth that! Fun game, and amazing soundtrack
Posted by teh_pwnzorer
@Drainoslushy said:
" As they do indeed admit (odd word to use, simply stated by the guys) that they know  little about the Scott Pilgrim stuff, and they only have the game to judge the game on, it's a pretty generic scrolling beat em up which has nothing new compared to something from years and years ago. No idea why fans of this have to get so cringeworthy defensive when it's quite obvious how weak this would look to anyone else. They don't lay into it, they liked the art style, they just make the clear observation that it's a River City Ransom knock off. You expect them to rub one out over it? "  
 What's slightly cringeworthy is Ryan and Brad's attitude in this quick look.  I'm not buying this game; I'm not watching the movie; I never read the comic book...yet I don't get Jeff's attitude. 
Posted by patrick
@Olivaw said:

" It's just so fuckin' indie that at some point I have to wonder if it's intentionally being that way or if the person who wrote it has no self awareness. "

If you're asking whether they were out of place in hiring a chiptune band that writes their own synthesized tracks for a modded GameBoy and hiring a guy that has half a dozen of these gems
 
  
to then make an homage to retro video games and come out with an RCR clone, I'd say no.
Posted by patrick5152003

looks gay as fuck
Posted by Addfwyn

The references and all that aside, I think this game just doesn't look that fun. 
 
Don't get me wrong, I loved River City Ransom, but I loved it when it came out.  The brawler genre as a whole has not aged well, and isn't something that really needs to be remade so much.  I kind agree with Brad that I don't think I'd have the fortitude to get through the whole thing. 
 
So it just doesn't look fun as a game, I could care less about whether or not it has tons of references or not.

Posted by Flappy

I'm really diggin' this music.  Oh damn...

Posted by Ockman
@mutha3 said:

 I mean the guys occasionally have these weird ass moments where they're like'' Oh referencing this videogame thing, how childish. this has never been done before*insert several groans*''
 
Then they have a bombcast episode where they talk about arcade machines for like an hour of its running time.
 
That's a very good point. Putting it that way, they're starting to sound like grumpy old man talking about stuff like "back in my day" as if everything that is old and original is better, and everything new that copies something old is just a knock off.  I admit, I've been like that myself sometimes about somethings, where I just don't like a remake or something that copies another thing. Jeff's comments about it "trying too hard", seriously give me a break. Maybe the problem isn't that  it's trying too hard, but that some gamers, even Jeff like to nitpick too damn much. He just doesn't  want to appreciate what they were going for with this game. Why can't he just sit  back and enjoy it for what it is,  especially considering he's probably playing some free copy they were given.
 
Also in terms of a movie tie in, and for an original title, this is still refreshing. In a world where so many tie in games are quick cash ins without any type of effort even put into their development, and sometimes just being flat out broken, this game is a breath of fresh air. It has a lot of awesome things going for it, and it's just plain fun.  
 
AND IT'S $10.  
 
If we were talking a $60 game, we might have something bitch about, but this is a cheap fun game.
Posted by fentonalpha
@cazamalos said:
" people don't realize that hating something just because of the people that like it, makes you a hipster.  i find the movie trying to hard with the videogame references and special effects, to cover a shitty plot/idea, but i don't have anything against a game like this, it's been ages since i last played a 2D brawler  ps. don't worry guys halo and cod game are about to come out, i bet jeff lose that "i hate everything" attitude and recovers the  happiness with those shooters "
Well said.
Edited by Max_Hydrogen

River City Ransom in Toronto... NO FUCKING THANK YOU!!
 
@ DukeTogo: "... downright actionable." You hit the nail on the head Sir:   
 
 
                                                                      Copyright infringement + bukkake = 

Posted by ThePilgrums
@Rmack said:
"  Hipster trash pandering to anyone who likes anime or video games and feels misunderstood by girls presented by a completely unlikable main character and 40 video game/"hip" buzzwords on every page. Sickening. It is doing to men what Twilight does to women.     "
Knowing the creator Bryan O'Malley fairly well, it's less that he's pandering to make money, and more "this is the stuff I'm into, I bet a lot of other people are too." You make it sound like a nefarious scheme. And if you're taking Scott Pilgrim as seriously as Twilight is meant to be taken, you're taking it far too seriously. Its meant as harmless stupid fun, not to warp peoples' minds like you seem to think.  
 
I hate hipster slang and love stories as much as the next guy, but I can forgive Scott Pilgrim because it's silly popcorn fare. Ease up a little. No need to be super serious about what's intended to be a comedy series.
Posted by Milpool

This game is clearly not for Jeff or anyone else in the GB crew.  Please don't get upset that they don't like it.  If you like it, that's great.  I feel that its a well produced game but brawlers just aren't that fun or engaging. I'd rather spend an extra $5 and get Limbo. 
 
This game appeals to two kinds of people; people who like the Scott Pilgrim fiction or people who are obsessed with NES-era video games. 
 
The latter from my experience are people in their mid twenties and younger who either vaguely remember the NES from their early childhood and want to explore those memories or people who were too young to experience that era and are fascinated with discovering what it had to offer. 
 
Jeff was in his early teens in that era, he was reviewing games for the SNES/Genesis era, he had fully formed opinions about those games at that time and probably has little desire to relive those games in much detail.  He is obviously more interested in early arcade/pinball games from his childhood, and the Atari/pre-Atari era.  I think it comes down to age, so don't be offended.

Posted by ryanwho
@squidracerX: He probably picked up more references than anyone. The comic and movie is clearly for people who like games, he likes games, he's qualified. You're just looking for an excuse to dismiss them offhand.
Posted by DukeTogo

Posted by CaptainFish

Jeff and Brad and a lot of people in this comments thread don't like fun, and this video is proof.

Edited by fentonalpha

Man this quick look is bringing me down.  It's OK to like stuff for what it is.  And games are best reviewed without predisposed attitudes.
Edit: Also it's fun to look through the comments and pick out the ones that just want to agree with Brad and Jeff and not have opinions of their own.... because it's cool.

Posted by Bakumatsu

I don't know.. I kinda like it.

Posted by TadThuggish
@ThePilgrums said:
" @Rmack said:
"  Hipster trash pandering to anyone who likes anime or video games and feels misunderstood by girls presented by a completely unlikable main character and 40 video game/"hip" buzzwords on every page. Sickening. It is doing to men what Twilight does to women.     "
Knowing the creator Bryan O'Malley fairly well, it's less that he's pandering to make money, and more "this is the stuff I'm into, I bet a lot of other people are too." You make it sound like a nefarious scheme. And if you're taking Scott Pilgrim as seriously as Twilight is meant to be taken, you're taking it far too seriously. Its meant as harmless stupid fun, not to warp peoples' minds like you seem to think.   I hate hipster slang and love stories as much as the next guy, but I can forgive Scott Pilgrim because it's silly popcorn fare. Ease up a little. No need to be super serious about what's intended to be a comedy series. "
Musicians think in music, scientists think in science.  Sports fans lean over to their buddies and make "hipster indie references" about an athlete as a joke.  It stands to reason that gamers will think in games.  It stands to reason that if you're going to Giant Bomb (or work there) you've made a joke/reference about a game at some point, maybe even already today.  Your interests shape you and your humor, and you and your language.  There is most definitely a trend of marketers selling kids their own culture back to them, but if someone says "I love River City Ransom", what reason do you have to believe otherwise?  Maybe he does!  I do!  Jeff does!  Scott Pilgrim is now popular, and hating something that's popular (solely because it's popular) is, by the jaded one's definition, a "hipster" act.  So you have people who through their own words classified themselves as "hipsters" for hating "hipsters" so much.
 
All the while, Bryan Lee O'Malley is just a guy who really likes Mega Man.  Just like everyone else.
Posted by Phished0ne

i think everyone is mistaking disinterest for hatred.

Posted by Miketorreza

 I'm not a Scott Pilgrim fan but I think this game deserves more of a chance than Jeff and Brad gave it. It's really weird when someone acts so negative about a game that actually looks pretty cool. What's wrong with a game referencing other games? With 3d Dot Game Heroes people were trashing on it because it was similar to the original Zelda, but that's the whole point. Both that and this are paying respect to some great games that are still fun and still deserve attention. Maybe they aren't as good as them but at least they exist.

I didn't hear Jeff whining that Singularity was too similar to Bioshock or that Alpha Protocol was too similar to Mass Effect or the tons of mindless shooters that are just clones of Modern Warfare. But apparently, none of his complaints apply to his beloved generic shooters whose formulas are just as dull to me as other games are to him, or all the dumb Arcade games he has a weird affinity for.

This wouldn't be as much of a problem if the people on this site were normal, but whatever feelings the staff have about a game, this community latches on to it and defends it to death. You're ruining a lot of decent games for a lot of easily influenced people.

All I'm saying is maybe don't be so negative all the time guys, give games a chance, and maybe you'll have fun with games that don't have Call of Duty or Mortal Kombat in the title.

Posted by Rmack
@ThePilgrums: First of all, thank you for not attacking me like most SP fans. 
 
Secondly, my main issue with this whole franchise is the marketing of it. I actually rather liked the first book, but when I read the second and came to the conclusion I just hated every character in it and, again, felt it was just trying too hard, I put it down and never thought of it again until HOLY SHIT IT'S ON EVERY TV SCREEN AND MOVIE THEATER AND NOW MY PS3! It's just gotten to the point where I want this to go away so badly, you know? 
 
Maybe my Twilight example is extreme, but my usual argument for not liking the books was that Scott was a dick, but people who like the books don't agree. They tell me he's a "normal dude." That's fucked! I don't want "normal dudes" to be assholes in video game t-shirts and emo bands! 
 
Ah well. I sincerely thank you for letting me vent without making me feel like an asshole. PEACE.
Posted by Nasar7

Played the demo last night. Seemed fun but not enough to drop the $10 for it. It's funny though, I was entirely looking at this game on it's own merits and all of the references flew right over my head as I'm 1) not an old-ass man and 2) not a fan of the comic. Also, anything with Michael Cera in it needs to be banned.

Posted by mutha3
@Miketorreza: 
Agreed with everything said in this post.
 
(prepare to be cauterized by white knights, though)
Posted by Ockman
@Miketorreza said:
"  I'm not a Scott Pilgrim fan but I think this game deserves more of a chance than Jeff and Brad gave it. It's really weird when someone acts so negative about a game that actually looks pretty cool. What's wrong with a game referencing other games? With 3d Dot Game Heroes people were trashing on it because it was similar to the original Zelda, but that's the whole point. Both that and this are paying respect to some great games that are still fun and still deserve attention. Maybe they aren't as good as them but at least they exist.I didn't hear Jeff whining that Singularity was too similar to Bioshock or that Alpha Protocol was too similar to Mass Effect or the tons of mindless shooters that are just clones of Modern Warfare. But apparently, none of his complaints apply to his beloved generic shooters whose formulas are just as dull to me as other games are to him, or all the dumb Arcade games he has a weird affinity for.This wouldn't be as much of a problem if the people on this site were normal, but whatever feelings the staff have about a game, this community latches on to it and defends it to death. You're ruining a lot of decent games for a lot of easily influenced people.All I'm saying is maybe don't be so negative all the time guys, give games a chance, and maybe you'll have fun with games that don't have Call of Duty or Mortal Kombat in the title. "
Another very good comment. I like reading these intelligent ones.
Posted by PAPI_D_187

I'm sure if MK2 or MK3 were remade, you wouldn't hear one negative remark from Brad or Jeff.

Posted by TheBlackPigeon

Scott Pilgrim vs Giant Bomb. 
 
When it's BOMB vs BOMB-OMB, how will Toronto (and teh worldz) SURVIVE?
Posted by CitizenJP
@Ockman said:
" @Miketorreza said:
"  I'm not a Scott Pilgrim fan but I think this game deserves more of a chance than Jeff and Brad gave it. It's really weird when someone acts so negative about a game that actually looks pretty cool. What's wrong with a game referencing other games? With 3d Dot Game Heroes people were trashing on it because it was similar to the original Zelda, but that's the whole point. Both that and this are paying respect to some great games that are still fun and still deserve attention. Maybe they aren't as good as them but at least they exist.I didn't hear Jeff whining that Singularity was too similar to Bioshock or that Alpha Protocol was too similar to Mass Effect or the tons of mindless shooters that are just clones of Modern Warfare. But apparently, none of his complaints apply to his beloved generic shooters whose formulas are just as dull to me as other games are to him, or all the dumb Arcade games he has a weird affinity for.This wouldn't be as much of a problem if the people on this site were normal, but whatever feelings the staff have about a game, this community latches on to it and defends it to death. You're ruining a lot of decent games for a lot of easily influenced people.All I'm saying is maybe don't be so negative all the time guys, give games a chance, and maybe you'll have fun with games that don't have Call of Duty or Mortal Kombat in the title. "
Another very good comment. I like reading these intelligent ones. "
I like ur style dood. Genius. :P
Posted by patrick
@DukeTogo said:
" obligatoryimagemacro.jpg "
Congratulations on attempting to languish this board into 4chan. Regular text will suffice here.
Posted by TadThuggish
@Miketorreza said:
"I didn't hear Jeff whining that Singularity was too similar to Bioshock or that Alpha Protocol was too similar to Mass Effect or the tons of mindless shooters that are just clones of Modern Warfare. But apparently, none of his complaints apply to his beloved generic shooters whose formulas are just as dull to me as other games are to him, or all the dumb Arcade games he has a weird affinity for."
To be perfectly honest, I'm starting to compose the idea that the dislike of this game is simply due to being scared of girls.  Or at least scared of people in general, especially "cool" (don't really have to be cool) ones.  Scott Pilgrim has a bigger and more varied fanbase than Giant Bomb.  When Jeff goes to play Singularity, the others playing with him are exactly like him.  When Jeff goes to play Scott Pilgrim, others are going to be of all sorts of color, gender, size, shape, ideas, upbringing.  So the GB crew sees a girl with dyed hair who likes the Shins, and all of a sudden everything she's ever loved SUCKS and they're sick of her IRONY and their own favorite games should NEVER HAVE THIS HAPPEN TO THEM AGAIN.  And the girl just stands there looking befuddled, because she just liked how her hair looked, without any basis on "hipsterism".
Posted by PAPI_D_187
@CitizenJP: right on
Posted by Ockman
@Rmack: It's ok to be annoyed at marketing sometimes, especially considering how much some things are marketed. that's why I sometimes really hate on the xbox 360, you turn the system on, and more than 50% of what goes on that damn system is you being marketed to without you even wanting it. 
 
But with Scott Pilgrim, I really don't mind it. Scott Pilgrim isn't really the most popular comic book in the world, and for the creative minds involved, they have to market if they ever want to make some money  back on their investment, so I can't really blame them. 
 
 I have never read the comics, I never even heard of the series til my friend  told me that  a movie was being made, my friend is a big fan, and he made a point of telling me all about the series. I still haven't taken much interest, I'll see the movie tomorrow if I can,  but I'm not gonna deny that I think this game looks awesome, and it's not cuz of any  trailers I saw, it's because I played it and saw it. 
Edited by ThePilgrums

@ DukeTogo I'm not a hipster douche and I think Scott Pilgrim is good for what it is. What do you have to say to that? 
 
(By the way, don't take DukeTogo seriously. He just loves repeating ad nauseum how much he hates Scott Pilgrim here and on Screened until everyone is bored. This is around the fifth time he's trolled a conversation about the series.)

Posted by Kontrapunkt

Ahhhh those chiptunes on there own might have just lured me in.

Posted by capthavic

lol @ rapid fire nuts punch and bus running over the fat guy XD

Posted by fentonalpha
@ThePilgrums said:
" @ DukeTogo I'm not a hipster douche and I think Scott Pilgrim is good for what it is. What do you have to say to that?  (By the way, don't take DukeTogo seriously. He just loves repeating ad nauseum how much he hates Scott Pilgrim here and on Tested until everyone is bored. This is around the fifth time he's trolled a conversation about the series.) "
It IS times like this the trolls start foaming at the mouth with excitement.  And yet so many of us bite.  
Posted by mutha3
@TadThuggish: 
 
 Ehhhh.....I wouldn't go that far.
 
I doubt the GB crew has issues talking with girls, I mean Brad and Ryan have mentioned girlfriends before and Vinny is married.
Posted by ProjektGill

"Fighting a Shadow Scott Pilgrim at the end of the game". Only if they knew how right they were.