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Edited by rjayb89

Patrick seems pretty indefensible for being so openly ignorant about the franchise and spouting out invalid opinions. A shame too considering how he gave a game like Monster Hunter a chance and actually got me to not count those games out of my lifetime.

Also, I don't give a fuck about the comics or any Telltale game in general so I don't say that they're shit when I know I haven't put any time into them. At least put more effort into your opinion of the comics next time, Patrick.

Posted by Jace

@deegee said:

"I've never read the comics, but all the characters are shit and poorly written."

Goddamn Patrick. Goddamn.

Huh, that's the same logic he uses for his feminist arguments too.

Edited by TehJedicake

Should I click play or not click play... Well I feel like torturing myself today, so I'll click play.

AHHH!!! I'M A TYPICAL GIANTBOMB USER AND SOMEONES OPINIONS MAKES ME ANGRY!!! GRR!!

Edited by Nettacki

@davo said:

The game doesn't seem as bad as I thought it was going to be, sadly.

The way I see it, there's a lot of good ideas here that would fit the survival game that they wanted to make. I commend them for at least not going for the all-out Left 4 Dead style action route and put more emphasis on resource gathering and melee combat. But due to lack of time and being forced to rush the game, none of those ideas were really well executed, and the result is a bad game with so much promise it's almost painful.

Posted by Gildermershina

I think the TV show is pretty good through seasons 1 and 3, not so good in season 2 but mostly for reasons of pacing. Certain characters really don't come off well when you have them doing nothing and talking about their feelings for way too long. Look at how they turned around the character of Carl in Season 3, by giving him responsibility instead of just being a burden. Look at Daryl, who clearly has stuff going on that he's not constantly moaning about. Laurie and Andrea are problems because they're voicing their problems constantly and not doing anything about them. Andrea spent the last few episodes of the show going back and forth between camps like "Oh, um, I don't know what to do here, but here's my feelings right now, even though they'll change in ten minutes." And the way to fix it seems pretty simple: don't give these characters time to moan about their problems.

TLDR: when show is slow, show is generally bad.

As for this actual game though, it seems valueless, but not quite as awful than I would have guessed from the review. It seems bland but competent.

Posted by MasturbatingestBear

@venatio said:

I find it funny that Patrick states that the show is bad like it's a fact and that the majority of people feel that way

Patrick seems fond of overstatement, particularly when it can also be patronizing.

Not really. I watch the show every week and even I admit that the show is pretty bad. Like Brad said, It's not bad enough to make you want to leave, which seems to be the general consensus.

Posted by Ratsor

I refuse to believe that the consensus of the collective consciousness is that the TV is bad. I don't know how people think The Walking Dead comic or TV show are not fantastic. That being said this game is pretty terrible. Also I don't think the Telltale game is amazing, just really good.

Posted by Nettacki

@ratsor said:

I refuse to believe that the consensus of the collective consciousness is that the TV is bad. I don't know how people think The Walking Dead comic or TV show are not fantastic. That being said this game is pretty terrible. Also I don't think the Telltale game is amazing, just really good.

From what I hear, Season 2 has a lot of filler. Maybe that's got something to do with the TV show's hatred.

Posted by avantegardener

The only walking dead I have consumed are the comics in trade, they are some compelling, grim page turners.

Edited by avantegardener

@andrew2696 said:

Man the way Patrick talks about the comic is kind of...extremely negative. As a person who hasn't read the comic it feels weird to theorize something is bad. But he's read more than me I guess.

I 've read all the comics to date, and I think they are the only way you should get your Walking Dead fix, but that's just opinion, and Patrick is entitled to his, but I feel your not qualified to talk about character development across the arc, when you've only read the 1st trade. I think the comic characters are leaps and bounds above the other media offerings.

Posted by sixpin

@hatking: If you need an iPad to distract you from watching something, then you probably should just watch something else or just use the iPad. Point being that it seems he doesn't care for the show that he doesn't pay attention to. If you watched it and don't like it, fine. Though I would recommend watching season three, as it is much improved over season two's slowness. As I said in my first post, the issue I take is with his opinion being portrayed as the common take on the show/comic/whatever. And it still seems to me like a conversation best kept off camera for the purposes of this quick look.

Posted by Cloudenvy

@jace said:

@deegee said:

"I've never read the comics, but all the characters are shit and poorly written."

Goddamn Patrick. Goddamn.

Huh, that's the same logic he uses for his feminist arguments too.

Boom!

Seriously though, this was really hard to get through mostly because of Patrick for reasons already stated a million times in the comment section.

Posted by EchosMyron

Seems like Patrick has read very little of the comic. So I dont get his theory that the comic "peters out" (In the first 10 issues?) and has bad characters. Or that theyre arent the emphasis. There are fantastic characters in the comic, and theyre without a doubt the focus. The first two episodes of the game, especially, were jam packed with moments lifted almost directly from the comic.

Posted by kishinfoulux

Oh hey people hating on the Walking Dead TV show, that they still continue to watch. That'll show em guys.

Posted by gulinotm

Jesus you people are embarrassing me as a member of this community.

Also i hate zombies.

Posted by mrsmiley

@geirr said:

@mrsmiley said:

I don't understand why everyone thinks season 2 of Walking Dead was so bad. I didn't find it to be any different than season 1 or 3. I've found all of them to be enjoyable, as they all feature great characters, drama, and zombie goodness.

We (me and my wife) found season 2 to be like a common soap opera with a little zombie thrown in for a few seconds here and there. Season 1, to us, had more focus and drive and the characters hadn't developed into complete idiots yet. We've made the decision to watch the show when it's all done so we can skip the (to us) uninteresting parts.

What characters developed into idiots other than Shane? I loved seeing the character progression in season 2. Shane's growing obsession with Lori, Daryl's soft side starting to show through with Sofia/Carol, Carl's growing up due fast due all the crap happening around him, etc. Season 1 was obviously great because it was just revealing the characters and ideas, but Season 2 did a fantastic job of really getting into the character's minds and showing us what they're made of. Now in Season 3, it's great balance of both action and character progression, although Season 2 still had plenty of action and great effects.

Posted by HatKing

@sixpin said:

@hatking: If you need an iPad to distract you from watching something, then you probably should just watch something else or just use the iPad. Point being that it seems he doesn't care for the show that he doesn't pay attention to. If you watched it and don't like it, fine. Though I would recommend watching season three, as it is much improved over season two's slowness. As I said in my first post, the issue I take is with his opinion being portrayed as the common take on the show/comic/whatever. And it still seems to me like a conversation best kept off camera for the purposes of this quick look.

Fair enough. Although, I do feel like the, uh, opinionated conversations like that, are sort of an important part of the website. Agree with them or not, and they've said plenty of things that make me throw my face into palm, it's a big part of their personality - and that's what this website sort of lives on.

Posted by FreakGirl

Awww...why's the QL so short... :( :(

Posted by StoffInator

Not sure why Patrick doesn't like the show, yet he watches it. :-s I love the show myself.

Posted by reelife

@jsnyder82: Do you enjoy quick looks where they don't pay attention to the game?

Posted by martyarf

"I like The Walking Dead too. Guess I have bad taste or something. But whatever, if you hate everything you'll rarely have fun and I am entertained all the time."

lol@the smuggest fucker ever being smug over the fact that they have no critical taste. the show is bad and you are bad

Edited by martyarf

the people saying that season one are great must have missed the part of the show where the writers have to invent a sentient supercomputer at the center for disease control, apparently thats great writing?? here's some great writing: *shits out a turd*

Posted by big_jon

35 seconds in and this looks horrible...

Edited by PhilipDuck

Well that was a lot worse than i expected haha, no atmosphere like at all! Whole thing felt so boring!

Posted by Nettacki

I was hoping Giantbomb would have started this quicklook in a later level as every video game site had already shown the first 30 minutes. My guess is Patrick & Brad had no intention of ever playing this... which is OKAY considering it's garbage.

What happened to Terminal Reality? Ghostbusters was a great game. Was this the publisher's fault for rushing them, their fault or both?

I think the bulk of the blame is on the publisher for rushing them (I believe they were given 6 months to develop it?). The ideas shown in this game are clearly good in the context of a survival game. The devs just needed more time to flesh them all out.

Edited by Scotto

I don't even like Walking Dead (I hate zombie stuff, period), but I thought it was kind of bizarre how Patrick and Brad were both casually dismissing the Walking Dead TV series as complete shit that "wasn't up to AMC's usual standards", when it's probably the second most famous and critically acclaimed show in the network's history (after Mad Men).

Every show has some inconsistency from time to time.

Edited by carlthenimrod

This game is most likely complete shit, but this QL is way shittier. If you guys are going to do a QL of a game then do a QL of the fucking game. I'm not a Brad/Patrick hater or anything but this was just ridiculous. All this video did for me was offend me as a gamer.

Posted by FoxMulder

I love when Patrick talks about stuff he doesn't know shit about i.e. the Walking Dead comic.

Posted by bunnymud

It's simple really. The Walking Dead is a top rated show on television. Hipster can't be liking that shit.

Posted by yoshimitz707

@scotto: Forgetting about Breaking Bad? I'd say that's way more critically acclaimed then The Walking Dead.

Posted by Conrad148

The GB crew really needs to play games with an open mind. They read other websites reviews, articles, facebook and twitter, so when they play the game for themselves it's already cemented in their mind as a bad game. This preconceived opinion really affects the quality of the quick look. It's like the game has to prove it's NOT bad.

Edited by chikin_n_rofls

It is kind of unfortunate that they felt the need to trash the source material as much as they did in order to reaffirm their love for the Telltale game. The TV show definitely has some pacing issues, but I think the characters are generally handled very well. I can sort of see why people accuse TWD of having one-note characters, but I think that's just a by-product of the show featuring an ensemble cast. Every character has to bring something specific to the plot. Otherwise, I think the stories would get bogged down having to qualify everything.

Posted by OneManX

I'm guessing Scoops stepped in it big time when it came to this one. While I know he is not around, this QL seemed perfect for Alex to man, seeing as he may be a bit more informed when it comes to the actual show, instead of some passive interest.

I already know the game isn't great, I dont think I need the QL to explain why...

Posted by Scotto

I love when Patrick talks about stuff he doesn't know shit about i.e. the Walking Dead comic.

When Brad says "I didn't know that was the view of the comic", I wanted to say "IT PROBABLY ISN'T, BRAD - PATRICK IS SUBSTITUTING A PERSONAL, POORLY INFORMED OPINION AS THE CONSENSUS".

Has Patrick ever read a single issue of the comic? And if not, how can he possibly claim that the creator just "stumbled" over something popular, that he didn't really know what to do with? How is that shit not just completely unfair and irresponsible on a professional level?

Edited by Scotto

@scotto: Forgetting about Breaking Bad? I'd say that's way more critically acclaimed then The Walking Dead.

You're right, my bad.

Edited by LordAndrew

I usually find the Patrick hate unfounded, but this was really bad.

Edited by OneManX

@scotto said:

@yoshimitz707 said:

@scotto: Forgetting about Breaking Bad? I'd say that's way more critically acclaimed then The Walking Dead.

You're right, my bad.

Yeah, but it's pretty much Mad Men, Breaking Bad and TWD in that order, but considering that it does big ratings and is the newest show on the block, it is easy to say that it is a huge sucess for AMC, so seeing that Patrick stated otherwise, just comes off way misinformed.

As for the books, I am sure he could of just asked Tony what the general buzz is around the comics, instead of lobbing one up there.

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@jace said:

@deegee said:

"I've never read the comics, but all the characters are shit and poorly written."

Goddamn Patrick. Goddamn.

Huh, that's the same logic he uses for his feminist arguments too.

No it isn't, these are separate issues keep them separate.

Also if you think this comment is defending patrick go read my comment in all caps a few pages back.

Posted by antivanti

Looks like "varma sopor" which is Swedish for hot garbage.

Edited by sixpin

@hatking said:

@sixpin said:

@hatking: If you need an iPad to distract you from watching something, then you probably should just watch something else or just use the iPad. Point being that it seems he doesn't care for the show that he doesn't pay attention to. If you watched it and don't like it, fine. Though I would recommend watching season three, as it is much improved over season two's slowness. As I said in my first post, the issue I take is with his opinion being portrayed as the common take on the show/comic/whatever. And it still seems to me like a conversation best kept off camera for the purposes of this quick look.

Fair enough. Although, I do feel like the, uh, opinionated conversations like that, are sort of an important part of the website. Agree with them or not, and they've said plenty of things that make me throw my face into palm, it's a big part of their personality - and that's what this website sort of lives on.

This style of coverage may be the soul of this site, but I feel like I've grown tired of cynical, uninformed opinions being thrown around as truth (more so when they have little to do with what is going on in the video). If that is all we can expect out of this site then it is no wonder I've recently started visiting other sites more frequently. I'm a fan of Giant Bomb, but this was such a weak quick look it probably shouldn't have even been posted. If they're just going to ignore the game as they are "playing" it, then why do it at all? Why not just let Alex's review handle the fecal slinging coverage of this seemingly awful game?

Posted by bybeach

This game right off looks muddier than shit. It also looks very boring, though the intro was almost alright. They did try for some drama.

I get the impression ppl. are defending more the TV show and the comics. Okay.

Posted by sixpin

@scotto said:

@foxmulder said:

I love when Patrick talks about stuff he doesn't know shit about i.e. the Walking Dead comic.

When Brad says "I didn't know that was the view of the comic", I wanted to say "IT PROBABLY ISN'T, BRAD - PATRICK IS SUBSTITUTING A PERSONAL, POORLY INFORMED OPINION AS THE CONSENSUS".

Has Patrick ever read a single issue of the comic? And if not, how can he possibly claim that the creator just "stumbled" over something popular, that he didn't really know what to do with? How is that shit not just completely unfair and irresponsible on a professional level?

Just my 2 cents on that stumbling into a hit comment; that's a crass thing to say. I live in Kirkman's hometown. I'm met him and listened to him talk about TWD. Dude is not some bumbling idiot that accidentally found a hit. He created what he set out to create. He genuinely loves zombie movies, but always wanted to read/see one that never had to end. That is what he created.

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@pulledabrad said:

@rebgav said:

So... the comic is bad, the tv show is bad and there are two bad videogames based on The Walking Dead. If everything associated with this property is kind of shitty how did it ever get to be such a big deal? I don't understand.

Robert Kirkman sold his soul to the devil.

I think you're thinking of Robert Johnson.

Posted by Jace

@jace said:

@deegee said:

"I've never read the comics, but all the characters are shit and poorly written."

Goddamn Patrick. Goddamn.

Huh, that's the same logic he uses for his feminist arguments too.

No it isn't, these are separate issues keep them separate.

Also if you think this comment is defending patrick go read my comment in all caps a few pages back.

People tend to think similarly across varying topics, regardless of how related to one another they are.

So I'm not sure if you misread my comment or if you just don't understand what I said.

Edited by scaramoosh

Not the developers fault, Activision didn't even give them a year to get this game done in time for the start of series 3 since Telltales version was such a big hit.

Edited by LackingSaint

Disclaimer for anyone that decides to be a critic of the comments section here: if you actually read what people are saying, almost nobody actually cares that Patrick doesn't like the comic, they're annoyed that he decided to go on about his "theory" about the comic and its author being crap despite admitting he barely read the dang thing. Leave off with your "omg you guys just hate everything stop complaining about opinions" strawman arguments, please.

Posted by LiquidPrince

The Walking Dead show is one of the most entertaining and well crafted shows currently airing on TV, so I dunno what the fuck the bombarinos were talking about. This game on the other hand...

Posted by Xeirus

@nettacki said:

@ratsor said:

I refuse to believe that the consensus of the collective consciousness is that the TV is bad. I don't know how people think The Walking Dead comic or TV show are not fantastic. That being said this game is pretty terrible. Also I don't think the Telltale game is amazing, just really good.

From what I hear, Season 2 has a lot of filler. Maybe that's got something to do with the TV show's hatred.

I think the TV show is garbage. It maybe not be everyone's opinion, but that's how opinions work.

Don't dwell so much on what other people think. Judging by the other comments in this thread people care WAY too much what Patrick thinks.

Edited by impostle

How can Patrick shit on the comic about having poor character development. That's the main drive throughout the series, character development is most of the interesting stuff.

Edited by Landon

Really disappointing to hear Patrick completely dismiss the comic as the same quality as the TV show and this game. I think the comic is much better than the show at juggling multiple characters and having exciting story arcs.