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Posted by ryanwho

Finally some modestly interesting gameplay. Gummy fighters MMO.

Posted by 2HeadedNinja
@MajorToms said:
" At least it's not another pre-rendered bioware trailer. Kind of getting sick of them not revealing gameplay or ingame graphics. It's one thing to build up your game with hype, but when you compare the E3 pre-render trailer to this gamescom trailer, you're kind of left with uncertainty towards the game's polish.  Their budget for Blur Studio creating them these beautiful pre-rendered trailers has to come close to the budget for the rest of the game. "
Thats kinda unfair ... for the point of development they are in they are releasing a normal ammount of gameplay footage ... from what I know there were the 2 huge cinematic trailers, and those got the job done: generating attention for the game.
 
As for the space combat ... yeah, on rails. But you cant really expect them to deliver a "free" space in the vanilla version of an MMO. If that is a hint on whats to come for quests in the game thats rather promising. I'd rather play a space mission quest than a "deliver 5 rancor teeth" quest.
Posted by Warhammer3025

So, the space combat is basically Rebel Assault? That's weird, but I don't know if it's weird-good or weird-bad.

Posted by bybeach

I can lick my elbow too.....not 
 
Don' like ppl. doing things I can't do, damnit!
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Posted by WinterSnowblind
@BounceDK said:
" The more I see of this game the more boring it looks. "
I don't think the space combat looks particularly bad..  Very Star-foxy, which is a good thing.  But as others have said, it doesn't really seem to fit in very well here.  The game feels very mish-mashed to me, the multiplayer, flying and story elements feel very seperate and isolated.  Hopefully the final game flows better than what we've seen.
 
But I'm also feeling less and less impressed the more we see of it.
Especially now that we're getting more Guild Wars 2 footage, which has pretty much upstaged this in every way.
Posted by Teaspoon83

They nailed using the laser sound.... meh. Would be nice variety but hopefully it ends up being fun and not something you have to do every time you travel between destinations.

Posted by EnchantedEcho
@S0ndor said:
" Meh, still has nothing on Guild Wars 2.  Maybe if the space combat was like the X-Wing games on the Gamecube :). "
Posted by Rasgueado

I appreciate the attempt .

Posted by Landmine

I'm a bit skeptical of how this fits into the structure of an mmo, but I'm going the wait and see route before passing judgement. It could turn out awesome if implemented well.

Posted by rwcohn

Framerate was super dodgy for a trailer

Posted by Spekingur

Sorry, but those just crying out Star Fox (!!!) should just play that then. Star Fox isn't Star Wars or vica versa. Seriously, one gets the notion that those who played Star Fox never played the proper Star Wars space combat games.

Posted by darkjester74

DUDE!  I have been waiting SOOOOOOOOOOOOO long for a Rogue Squadron MMO!!!!
 
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Posted by PenguinDust

Yeah, it's on rails but I'm okay with it since it's a launch feature.  I don't think Bioware needs to burden the player with every minute potential game play component right from the start.  They should make sure what they have in the game works well first then add on more abilities to the game including more varied space combat.

Posted by Zereta

This is just got instances right? 
 
I mean, its a linear path. No way this is multiplayer.

Posted by Myrddon

Looks... like... ass
Please god don't be mandetory.

Posted by Robopengy

That was kinda painful.

Posted by Hennet_sim

On rails shooters can be fun they can make more things happen on the path your on.

Posted by dvorak

Rebel assault. In an MMO. 
 
Were people asking for this?

Posted by D_O_A

They should have just copied the space combat from the Rogue Squadron games, i don't see why that wouldn't have worked.  Either way I'm glad space combat is in the game :)

Posted by slyely
@spotpilgrim said:
" Framerate was super dodgy for a trailer "
Yeah I noticed that also. Thought to myself...If they can't even play it back at a smooth framerate, then my comp def is not going to.
Posted by eezo

for all you stupid ass haters go play on ur xbox 360/ps3 this game isn't out for another year sooooo i would think that they fix the "issues" ... also did i mention you should go play on ur xbox 360/ps3?

Posted by TheHBK
@Spekingur said:
" Sorry, but those just crying out Star Fox (!!!) should just play that then. Star Fox isn't Star Wars or vica versa. Seriously, one gets the notion that those who played Star Fox never played the proper Star Wars space combat games. "
They say that because it will play like star fox, not other Star Wars games like Rogue Squadron, its going to be a semi-on rail shooter like Star Fox.  Its been confirmed by Bioware already. 
 
And I still haven't seen anything from this game that shows it to be an MMO, just seems like a goofy looking KOTOR game.  Not a bad thing but if they are saying its an MMO, then lets see it.
Posted by Pathogenocide

Yes!!! This is Galaxy's true revival!

Edited by lockwoodx

Smoke trails in space? Fires in a vacuum?  God that looked terrible.

Posted by Pakorn

Star Wars Fox: The Old Republic: Adventure: Slippy's Ransom

Posted by Willy105
@pornstorestiffi said:
" I didn't say anything bad about the LEGO Star Wars games, not as far as i know. I said the animated series "clone wars" was bad, and the games based on them.   Its fine that you enjoy the newer Star Wars stuff, i just don't. I'm one of those idiots who thinks of Star Wars as a Trilogy still, and disregards everything after the movies 4,5,6. The same way as i see Indiana Jones.   But i really don't see that space combat fitting in the main game, looks way too arcady, but if more people share your opinion Bioware succeeded by adding it to TOR, and i'm in the minority. But i can live with that. "
You should not call yourself an idiot, but you are missing out on a very great deal of stuff that makes Star Wars such a great thing to be a fan of. Honestly, if you only see movies 4,5, and 6, and nothing else, Star Wars would be really boring.
 
And besides, Star Wars is arcade space combat. It's not those Jedi games or Old Republic games. It started out as space ships, the Jedi things are expansions of the series. Anyway, check out the Clone Wars TV series, the new season starts this September. I'm sure you'll have fun.
Edited by MajorToms
@ 2HeadedNinja : It was more along the lines of a complaint. I love Bioware, but I'm tired of seeing so many pre-rendered trailers from them. They build their games up and I always get let down. If they spent less money getting blur to do the pre-render trailers and instead paid them to do the dialog in their games I would be happy as hell.  I'm a huge fan of motion graphics and animation and I'm working on getting into the industry. It just bugs me when I see something misrepresent the main focus of the game.
 
I don't know what it is with Bioware's animation team, but their body motion always feels really stiff, especially during dialog cutscenes. The Mass Effect 2 Pre-rendered dialog trailers were amazing, but in game the lips don't even match up to have the words half the time and the characters all move like robots. If you don't have an eye for animation or character motion, you probably don't notice it as much, but when you're training in the field, it's an eyesore.
 
It's not unfair for me to critique a video game company on a video game website. That's why they exist...
 
I wasn't really speaking towards the in flight combat in this trailer, though I must admit, I don't mind rails in space so long as the controls are more than just movement and shooting. I need acceleration and deceleration as well and I hope they bring this to the table. This kind of rail shooter tends to suck when it lacks those game mechanics.
Posted by WinterSnowblind
@pornstorestiffi said:
I didn't say anything bad about the LEGO Star Wars games, not as far as i know. I said the animated series "clone wars" was bad, and the games based on them.   Its fine that you enjoy the newer Star Wars stuff, i just don't. I'm one of those idiots who thinks of Star Wars as a Trilogy still, and disregards everything after the movies 4,5,6. The same way as i see Indiana Jones.   But i really don't see that space combat fitting in the main game, looks way too arcady, but if more people share your opinion Bioware succeeded by adding it to TOR, and i'm in the minority. But i can live with that. "
The animated Clone Wars series is by far the best thing to come from Star Wars since Return of the Jedi.. Including any books and videogames.  It started out badly with a very rushed together "movie" but the series has been getting progressively better and better.  The last few episodes of the first season were amazing, and the entire of the second season was pretty brilliant.
 
If you're a real SW purist, you'll hate it as much as anything else, but it really annoys me to see so many "Star Wars fans" shrugging it off so quickly without even giving it a chance.
 
But your point about Bioware and their CG trailers?  I actually agree with 100%.  They made some pretty cool looking action scenes, but they in no way represent the actual game and completely missed the SW feel.  isn't this was all the prequel bashers were complaining about to begin with?  Less fancy fights, more real story.  The special effects and moves they use are very contemporary, but come off as very artificial and will seem very outdated in a few years time, which is something I don't think even the prequel movies will suffer from.
Posted by deadbynature

wait wait wait, an mmo with space combat that looks like rogue squadron?!? ok you win this round bioware.

Posted by Little_Socrates
@mustachioeugene: Glad I'm not the only one who thought that guy looked ridiculous. Plus his armor looks like a bad Frank Gehry experiment. 
 
Combat looks meh, no way it'll be as good as Star Fox 64 so I'm still not that interested. Seems like an odd choice to have put this in the MMO, though. 
 
And no, people, you don't want the "split-up" method like in Ep. IV. BioWare tried turrets in KOTOR and they sucked.
Posted by Pop

where did all these vids come from!!

Posted by milkman4591
@skaune: That's exactly what I was thinking. But that could have been something other than free roaming space combat or PvP. Maybe that's an on rails sort of thing that takes place when traveling between planets in a star system.
Posted by Springfart

wait a minute, that actually looks kinda fun

Posted by PuppyKisses

Seems like a wasted opportunity to include a "x-wing / tie fighter" view. I guess people wanna play dress up with their ships tho.

Posted by Example1013

I guess for my ideal Star Wars MMO, I'd basically want Shadowbane-style battles (i.e. players fight and take control of other players' cities, or, in this case, planets) combined with Battlefront-style combat, somehow balanced to include the ridiculous number of Jedi and Sith that'd be running around, and simultaneous ground and space battles that you could move between (as in defending forces might start on the ground, hop in a ship, and fly out into orbit to do space combat, or stay on the ground and wait to duke it out on the battlefield).
 
Seems to me that that's not the game we're talking about, so while I still may be interested in playing (it is Star Wars, after all), I'm not sure exactly how good this game's gonna be.
 
Space combat also seems like a skip for me, especially since I've played Rogue Squadron I, II, and III, and Jedi Starfighter II, and Battlefron II, all of which had excellent space combat.

Posted by StealthRaptor

Are there only asteroid fields in space?

Posted by BionicMonster
@deadbynature said:
" wait wait wait, an mmo with space combat that looks like rogue squadron?!? ok you win this round bioware. "
I think its actually more rail shooter like Star Fox 64.
Posted by alkie

I reckon it looks alright.
Its not the part of the game I'm most interested in - but it looks decent enough to add a bit of variety when playing.

Posted by XenoZak

Looks like a Wii Version of Tie Fighter

Posted by mewarmo990
@Pakorn said:
" Star Wars Fox: The Old Republic: Adventure: Slippy's Ransom "
Sometimes I wish GiantBomb had a Facebook-ish Like button.
Posted by MaddProdigy

It looks like a freakin mini game! Space combat is a HUGE part of the Star Wars narrative, and their giving it about as much importance as the arcade machine in Raynors ship! Still, I'll totally buy this game. Weak sauce though Bioware, weak sauce.

Posted by MattClassic

Dude at the beginning's shoulder pads are fucking FABULOUS.