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Spookin' With Scoops: 04/24/2014

We return to Dreadout to get our Fatal Frame fix before discovering this Blair Witch game just might break me.

Apr. 26 2014

Cast: Patrick

Posted by: Patrick

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Yes!

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Wait, I thought this was from 4/23?

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Could the bug/insect thing in asian horror be a way to evoke the smell of decay/death? Western horror movies often show maggots or the sound of flies to a similar effect, I think?

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One day Patrick will play FEAR.

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Man fuck you. Now I need to play FEAR again. What a fucking great game.

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Aw yeah, was waiting for this to go up!

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One day Patrick will play FEAR.

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FEAR's amazing, some of my favorite gunplay in any game. But it's not too scary and can get repetitive.

But thanks to your GIF, I kinda want to play Project Origin again. Or at least that cool DLC campaign.

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@flacracker said:

One day Patrick will play FEAR.

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Man fuck you. Now I need to play FEAR again. What a fucking great game.

FEAR has some of the best enemy AI and slow-mo hands down.

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I love this feature and I'm so glad it's back, but admittedly I'm not a huge fan of the Blair Witch endurance run. It's not really scary, it's only tangentially related to the source material, and to me it's not really even bad in a good way. If other people are into it that's fine, just stating my piece.

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@abendlaender said:

@flacracker said:

One day Patrick will play FEAR.

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Man fuck you. Now I need to play FEAR again. What a fucking great game.

FEAR has some of the best enemy AI and slow-mo hands down.

Yeah, the AI was and still is just mindblowing. It's so sad that AI peaked in 2005 and then went downhill again...

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@alucitary: Personally, the continuity of him playing one game for an extended period is the largest reason why this is one of the few pieces of content Patrick has been putting out himself that I've been able to get into and really look forward to. Outlast was another example of how this feature kept my interest over time because of the investment in a single game.

I'd be much more interested in watching Patrick just play different horror games in their entirety than have this feature just be a grab bag of indie horror games he plays for twenty minutes before moving on to another one.

If this feature were done more often, I think both of us could get what we wanted, though. Since it's taken so long for Patrick to keep putting these out, the single game idea becomes burdensome where it wouldn't if this feature was more regular.

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@marokai: Ya, I get that sentiment. I personally like the grab bag style, and he does a good job at balancing the two styles. Also the kind of ideal show I envision for this sort of requires an infinite supply of horror games which there obviously isn't. If he has to play a whole game it might as well be something that he's interested in, and it's fine if a few people like me aren't into it, there's still plenty of content for us and it's great.

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Scoopin with Spooks!

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@wired_abyss said:

@abendlaender said:

@flacracker said:

One day Patrick will play FEAR.

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Man fuck you. Now I need to play FEAR again. What a fucking great game.

FEAR has some of the best enemy AI and slow-mo hands down.

Yeah, the AI was and still is just mindblowing. It's so sad that AI peaked in 2005 and then went downhill again...

Kinda makes you realize just how little happened over the past generation. F.E.A.R was released just as it was getting started, and still looks and plays better than most games that came out in the 9 years since.

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That's cause it wasn't tuned to run on console hardware in anyway. To this day, it runs like complete garbage on the way-toned down console ports they eventually did. Then the sequels were designed for consoles from the ground up so they didn't look nearly as good.

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@fisk0 said:

@abendlaender said:

@wired_abyss said:

@abendlaender said:

@flacracker said:

One day Patrick will play FEAR.

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Man fuck you. Now I need to play FEAR again. What a fucking great game.

FEAR has some of the best enemy AI and slow-mo hands down.

Yeah, the AI was and still is just mindblowing. It's so sad that AI peaked in 2005 and then went downhill again...

Kinda makes you realize just how little happened over the past generation. F.E.A.R was released just as it was getting started, and still looks and plays better than most games that came out in the 9 years since.

Which FEAR is that? Never played any but I like horror games.. I like shooters... I should like that game.

Still want Patrick to play Cryostasis. Another great FPS horror game. Can't see it happening though.

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The only FEAR really worth playing is the original

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@handlas said:

@fisk0 said:

@abendlaender said:

@wired_abyss said:

@abendlaender said:

@flacracker said:

One day Patrick will play FEAR.

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Man fuck you. Now I need to play FEAR again. What a fucking great game.

FEAR has some of the best enemy AI and slow-mo hands down.

Yeah, the AI was and still is just mindblowing. It's so sad that AI peaked in 2005 and then went downhill again...

Kinda makes you realize just how little happened over the past generation. F.E.A.R was released just as it was getting started, and still looks and plays better than most games that came out in the 9 years since.

Which FEAR is that? Never played any but I like horror games.. I like shooters... I should like that game.

Still want Patrick to play Cryostasis. Another great FPS horror game. Can't see it happening though.

That's the original F.E.A.R on PC, possibly one of the expansions, but it surely isn't F.E.A.R 2 or F.E.A.R 3 at least, and the console versions had to scale down the graphics quite a bit even back then, I think the PS3 version runs in double pixel mode if I recall correctly (in other words, halved screen resolution). That game had pretty PC high system requirements though, but any desktop PC made in the past 4 years or so should have no issue playing it on the highest settings.

I don't think Cryostasis is for sale anywhere anymore, so that could be hard, yeah. It used to be on GOG and Steam, but was taken down when some publisher went bust in 2011 or so.

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@parapa: F.E.A.R. 2 was heavily consolized, surely not as good as the original, but stilll pretty good as console shooters go. It opted for more Call of Duty style control and campaign design, whereas the original had a bit more of a Half-life feeling to it. F.E.A.R 2 had some kinda scary moments, and pretty good atmosphere, even though the original did all of that better too.

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@fisk0 said:

@handlas said:

@fisk0 said:

@abendlaender said:

@wired_abyss said:

@abendlaender said:

@flacracker said:

One day Patrick will play FEAR.

No Caption Provided

Man fuck you. Now I need to play FEAR again. What a fucking great game.

FEAR has some of the best enemy AI and slow-mo hands down.

Yeah, the AI was and still is just mindblowing. It's so sad that AI peaked in 2005 and then went downhill again...

Kinda makes you realize just how little happened over the past generation. F.E.A.R was released just as it was getting started, and still looks and plays better than most games that came out in the 9 years since.

Which FEAR is that? Never played any but I like horror games.. I like shooters... I should like that game.

Still want Patrick to play Cryostasis. Another great FPS horror game. Can't see it happening though.

That's the original F.E.A.R on PC, possibly one of the expansions, but it surely isn't F.E.A.R 2 or F.E.A.R 3 at least, and the console versions had to scale down the graphics quite a bit even back then, I think the PS3 version runs in double pixel mode if I recall correctly (in other words, halved screen resolution). That game had pretty PC high system requirements though, but any desktop PC made in the past 4 years or so should have no issue playing it on the highest settings.

I don't think Cryostasis is for sale anywhere anymore, so that could be hard, yeah. It used to be on GOG and Steam, but was taken down when some publisher went bust in 2011 or so.

Cool maybe I'll play it on PC at some point.

I tried buying Cryostasis again last year and couldn't find it anywhere so you are correct :(. I played it when it originally came out on an pretty old PC and was never able to finish it. Got near the end and it kept crashing. I enjoyed the hell out of what I got to play though.

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@flacracker: FEAR is dope but I'd like to see him play Condemned. 1 or 2, I guess. I liked the first more despite having technically worse fighting... The supernatural stuff in 2 didn't integrate that well.

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Oh man. I'll be so glad when Patrick gets past Blair witch. Love the feature.

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Man that F.E.A.R. series is only good as a shooter with good A.I. but when it comes to scares it boggles me that people consider this scary when I've had my cat give me more effective jump scares. Than again, the Horror genre was basically dead last generation.

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@flacracker: FEAR is dope but I'd like to see him play Condemned. 1 or 2, I guess. I liked the first more despite having technically worse fighting... The supernatural stuff in 2 didn't integrate that well.

He played Condemned before. It ran like crap on the PC. FEAR actually has the same framerate issues. I think it is fixed by disabling HID deices in the device manager or something. He wasn't really scared by the game. I doubt he would be really scared by FEAR as well, but FEAR just has some amazing gameplay and it is technically a horror game, so why not play it? It is something you need to experience. Also, Condemned 2 is only on consoles.

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I've been really looking forward to seeing more of (and eventually getting) Dreadout ever since Patrick played the demo in his second? third? installment of Spookin'.

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Waking up and running toward the light is the new valkyrie descending and taking you to Valhalla.

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@mason20 said:

Man that F.E.A.R. series is only good as a shooter with good A.I. but when it comes to scares it boggles me that people consider this scary when I've had my cat give me more effective jump scares. Than again, the Horror genre was basically dead last generation.

I'm not going to argue that F.E.A.R does a fantastic job on the horror front, but I don't think it's doing a worse job than many of the other games we've seen in recent years through this feature either, only F.E.A.R combines that with really well done mechanics. Amnesia and Penumbra were great, but other than those pretty much all the other horror games in recent years rely just as much on cheap jump scares as F.E.A.R. did, but usually aren't doing as much to earn them, which I think F.E.A.R. often did an alright good job with. While I only really got scared maybe twice while playing F.E.A.R, it always felt tense, even though most of the supernatural encounters couldn't even hurt you.

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One day Patrick will play FEAR.

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Godfuckingdamnit this game is awesome. Best shooting in any game. Phenomenal feeling.

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@flacracker: Personally I think he should just skip to Fear 2 for the school area. Most of the first Fear really isnt scary and is 99% regular FPS.

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I feel if any game has to rely on terrible game design to be "scary" it really isnt scary at all. Dreadout looks like a genuinely bad game. I'd rather just play Outlast again.

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Been waiting for Dreadout to make a return! That game is fucking terrifying.

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Damn, dreadout. MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN, i want to/never ever want to play that.

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This Blair Witch game is awful. Poor controls, level design, enemy design, fabric design, scare design, story, communication of where to go, pretty much everything. To top it off the main character twerks when standing still.

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@fisk0 said:

Could the bug/insect thing in asian horror be a way to evoke the smell of decay/death? Western horror movies often show maggots or the sound of flies to a similar effect, I think?

I wouldn't be surprised if that's an intended aspect, but I'm also pretty sure there's deeper symbolism involved. For starters, the bug in Dreadout seems to be either supernatural or illusory, what with it disappearing into dust when photographed.

The prominence of a large, winged insect echoes the beating "wings" of the mysterious light in the continue screens.

And consider the concrete connection of butterflies/moths and the realm of the dead in some cultures. In Japan, butterflies are said to be manifestations of souls, whether dead, dying, alive, etc... Not sure about the symbolism in Indonesia, but with rich indigenous traditions of animism and beliefs that are labelled "shamanism," I bet there's something to that.

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@handlas said:

@fisk0 said:

@handlas said:

@fisk0 said:

@abendlaender said:

@wired_abyss said:

@abendlaender said:

@flacracker said:

One day Patrick will play FEAR.

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Man fuck you. Now I need to play FEAR again. What a fucking great game.

FEAR has some of the best enemy AI and slow-mo hands down.

Yeah, the AI was and still is just mindblowing. It's so sad that AI peaked in 2005 and then went downhill again...

Kinda makes you realize just how little happened over the past generation. F.E.A.R was released just as it was getting started, and still looks and plays better than most games that came out in the 9 years since.

Which FEAR is that? Never played any but I like horror games.. I like shooters... I should like that game.

Still want Patrick to play Cryostasis. Another great FPS horror game. Can't see it happening though.

That's the original F.E.A.R on PC, possibly one of the expansions, but it surely isn't F.E.A.R 2 or F.E.A.R 3 at least, and the console versions had to scale down the graphics quite a bit even back then, I think the PS3 version runs in double pixel mode if I recall correctly (in other words, halved screen resolution). That game had pretty PC high system requirements though, but any desktop PC made in the past 4 years or so should have no issue playing it on the highest settings.

I don't think Cryostasis is for sale anywhere anymore, so that could be hard, yeah. It used to be on GOG and Steam, but was taken down when some publisher went bust in 2011 or so.

Cool maybe I'll play it on PC at some point.

I tried buying Cryostasis again last year and couldn't find it anywhere so you are correct :(. I played it when it originally came out on an pretty old PC and was never able to finish it. Got near the end and it kept crashing. I enjoyed the hell out of what I got to play though.

IIRC FEAR 1 is completely broken on any newer PCs frame rate runs at like 10fps through the whole game for a reason I am to lazy to look up but its difficult to run even on steam idk if they ever patched it.

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I think Spookin with Scoops is my favorite Giant Bomb feature. Super Professional (Insert Day) is a solid second. Spookin is the only show on Giant Bomb I really feel like I have to watch it live to get my full enjoyment.

And it seems like DreadOut decided they would give you a camera rather than a gun. A different means to the same end.

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Patrick, finish that Blair Witch game on a separate stream, and please have another Spookin' soon. I'm sorry to say I was pretty disappointed with this episode, I really didn't think you'd be replaying an old demo and playing yet another hour of that shit Blair Witch game. I don't know why you ever started playing this game dude, having nostalgia for the movie doesn't mean playing a well-known disaster of a game based off of it was going to be a good idea. Let's see Daylight next week, and if you're still unsure about procedurally generated horror games, you need to do yourself a favor and check out SCP Containment Breach and Vanish, both of which are great - even for just 15 minutes at a time. But as always Patrick, thanks for all the content you create and I look forward to the next Spookin'.

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SHIT! Noooooooooo I completely forgot Patrick was doing this!!

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Patrick's love for Blair Witch continues to fascinate me. I thought the movie was average at best and I'm a fucking wuss who hates horror movies.

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Good stuff for opening with Dread Out, that's the only game I've ever backed as a crowd funder partly because they offered a functioning demo, so really I just pre-ordered.

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@patrickklepek says "Buddy" a ton, is this some kind of regional thing?

My experience, whoever uses the word buddy or calls you that, normally ends up asking for money or a favor...

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@lobotomyking: No there is a fix for it. You have to disable HID Compliant devices in the device manager.

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@flacracker said:

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Man fuck you. Now I need to play FEAR again. What a fucking great game.

Yeah, that game was sick! It kind of blew me away at the time. Got so into it.

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HEC-AITOMIX.

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@flacracker: FEAR is dope but I'd like to see him play Condemned. 1 or 2, I guess. I liked the first more despite having technically worse fighting... The supernatural stuff in 2 didn't integrate that well.

He played Condemned before. It ran like crap on the PC. FEAR actually has the same framerate issues. I think it is fixed by disabling HID deices in the device manager or something. He wasn't really scared by the game. I doubt he would be really scared by FEAR as well, but FEAR just has some amazing gameplay and it is technically a horror game, so why not play it? It is something you need to experience. Also, Condemned 2 is only on consoles.

Ah. I didn't get the Condemned port, and didn't know he tried it. I played FEAR not that long ago, though, and didn't have any problems... Hell, didn't really have any framerate problems when it was The New Hotness and it still looked great. Sure kicked the shit out of HL2 which was just a year earlier.

Also didn't know Condemned 2 never came out on PC. OH WELL. We'll have to leave the bumfight reports to Jeff.