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The Imperial Agent Stirs Up Trouble in The Old Republic

My, that's quite an arsenal you have.

Nov. 7 2011

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Star Wars: The Old Republic

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I got into the beta, it's really just WoW in a star wars universe. Though the way they try to get cinematic with the dialogue is probably the most interesting part. Though I think I'm past the point of caring about random people in a star wars universe. It's too bad the game isn't like the cool cgi cutscenes, the intro is badass, but is almost completely irrelevant to the actual gameplay, and even your personal storyline.

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@rick9109 said:

If I was in beta and clicked "accept" if I review the game am I breaking an embargo? I always wanted to be a rebel and break and embargo.

Technically you're breaking an NDA.  You can only mention things that have been revealed elsewhere (IGN).
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Really, really wanted this game about two years ago. Now... every single time one of these class progression videos, or a special feature trailer, or some other crap is released I just more and more despondent. I've decided against getting it because it doesn't look like star wars, the overall story is nothing interesting, the classes look awful (the agent creates force-fields to hide behind and snipe? really?) Just about every feature I thought was brilliant has turned out the opposite (the ships, goody we have no choice in that, a seemingly limited freedom of choice within the classes themselves.... argh, the list goes on and on and on) I know they say this is what, kotor 3 through to 9 or something silly, but am i alone in thinking that a nice single player kotor 3 would have been brilliant?

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I don't know if you guys have seen the skill videos for Guild Wars 2, but this just looks silly in comparison. Run, stop, skill, repeat, LAME! I played this game at PAX and it sucks.

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Color blind assist? Sold.

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The draw for an MMO is the people you play with. An MMO game is just the centerpiece at the table. I will be the last one to say an MMO is up to the same standard of art as a regular game, it exists in its own category. Its not above criticism at all but people judge these game we MMO players love, without considering the real reason we love them. People.

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I can't muster a second's worth of interest for this game. It looks like everything i don't like about both Star Wars AND MMOs. Just have Sledgehammer make Republic Commando 2 already, stupid Lucasjerks.

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@CptBedlam said:

It sounds like SW but it doesn't look like SW at all.

I'd probably be interested if they didn't make it all cute and cartoony. I blame Blizzard and WoW and I'm sick of that kind of art style.

Praise The Sun! Dark Souls is here to save us from those Happiness-in-your-face-art styles.

It would be awesome to see an MMO set in the Dark Souls universe with that same gothic fantasy art style. Also if it could use that action RPG combat system that would be cool. Alas, it will probably never happen so I'll just go back to enjoying Dark Souls. Praise the Sun! Fatty ahead...

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@ViciousAnchovy said:

I hope this game gets my MMOTOR running.

Well done Sir.

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I'll give her an imperial stir up

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Looks kinda boring, i mean sniper in a hot-key mmo? what?... we will see. 

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I give this review five stars.

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@Mdk5631 said:

Star Trek Online has ground combat controls that play like a third person shooter

Apparently you played a different version of STO than the rest of us. STO's ground combat looked about on par with this, assuming this has a dodge move.

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@Buzzkill said:

@CL60 said:


I really fail to see how this game looks terrible graphically.

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Jeff would complain those ground textures look like ass.

It does look like ass, but if you look at it with MMO-tinted glasses it looks fine.

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ugh, good to see its still an MMO, where the combat looks fucking retarded and the animation is from two console generations ago. There's too many quality games out there to waste time on MMOs.

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Haters gon hate! I CAN'T WAIT! :>

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@dillinger said:

@Kanji: I've been in a beta weekend, and it is neither clunky nor shitty. I had a complete aversion to playing this game prior to getting in the beta. Then I couldn't be more excited to play it. Hopefully you get in the next beta weekend and have the same experience

I too have been in one of those weekends and I played the living shit out of it. Initially, I was curious but apprehensive. After the weekend, I felt that the game was wow re-skinned.

You get 'story' with every new quest but those sequences rarely play into the zones you venture into if they aren't class missions. Thus, you get bits of story at the beginning and the end of a quest but everything in-between is exactly the kind of mmo gameplay wow has done for years and years. The thing that really made the story stuff fall flat was that I'd gather up a bunch of quests from one location, do them all, and turn them in at the same time, by the time I had to turn everything in, nary did I remember whose kitten I saved for who, eventually I stopped trying to remember why I was doing a quest in the first place. It all just became *Retrieve/Fix this thing* and *Kill X/50 duders.* 20/50 levels in and I was bored to tears. I'll give the game one thing, the worlds look pretty cool albeit very closed off.

I couldn't try rerolling either because almost all of the quests are shared with the other classes of your faction so once you go through it once, you've seen most of the game. Sadly, I suppose that is what most former wow players want but it really isn't good enough for me as I am 100% burnt out on that style of mmo and would like a tiny bit of innovation in my gameplay.

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@TheChaos said:

I'll play when it goes F2P, so next year'ish.

Ditto

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Jeff was right. One-hit-KO headshots are ruining games! That Jedi died with just a press of a button! Bioware's propagating this madness!

Occupy Bioware.

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If I was in beta and clicked "accept" if I review the game am I breaking an embargo? I always wanted to be a rebel and break and embargo.

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Want

/Cool story bro

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I was already going to play Imperial Agent, now I'm sure =)

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The Imperial Agent is the first class I am going to make. I don't know whether to use a Chiss or a human for the race though.

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I'll play when it goes F2P, so next year'ish.

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That first music piece is rad. I doubt they got John Williams, but it definitely sounds like new Star Wars music. I hope there's a ton of it in the game and not just recycled stuff.

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I have the sudden urge to do another live stream of this game, to show people how it actually plays.

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Nothing makes you feel more like an evil Sith badass than cartoony bloodless violence.

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@CL60 said:


I really fail to see how this game looks terrible graphically.

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Jeff would complain those ground textures look like ass.
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@Krummey said:

@ViciousAnchovy said:

I hope this game gets my MMOTOR running.

...really? I'm shaking my head at you now.

I'm strongly in favor!

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@Kanji: I've been in a beta weekend, and it is neither clunky nor shitty. I had a complete aversion to playing this game prior to getting in the beta. Then I couldn't be more excited to play it. Hopefully you get in the next beta weekend and have the same experience

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Here is some actual footage. Personally it looks clunky and shitty to me, but until I play the game it's hard to tell.

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@ViciousAnchovy said:

I hope this game gets my MMOTOR running.

...really? I'm shaking my head at you now.

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I hope this game gets my MMOTOR running.

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Such a bummer this isn't coming to Mac, too...

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Animation is so stiff

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I want to believe this will turn out to be good. I really do.

But that trailer made the game somehow look worse than the KOTOR games. Argh.

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The true irony of this game is that its unimaginative conservatism of design flies in the face of Lucas' refusal to stop raping his film franchise with unnecessary changes.

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yup, that's an mmo alright

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@Vortextk: I'll admit I'm going to be sad when there are absolutely no camera changes at all during play.

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@thenexus: Not to say it won't be or isn't somewhat active, these trailers are just always a joke. MMO trailers are kind of terrible. CG nothingness, or watching a dude press hotkeys without a UI on screen with fancy camera angles. Looking at the skills and progression is nice because ultimately that's what will matter, so that was cool atleast. The character stuff. Actual combat of course is just a slightly evolved thing everyone knows all too well.
 
They have a lot of work to do to make sure every class seems kick ass so you don't have 80% jedis. That class seems to fulfill that goal.
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@Vortextk: This and some of the other MMO's coming out are a lot less turn by turn, they have more dynamic elements now everyone has sussed the server to computer stuff. So yeah there will always be an element of this for these games by their nature but watch some youtube videos of PVP etc. Your very active.

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MMO gameplay trailers, lovely things comprised almost entirely of standing still hitting numbered keys every few seconds, with tons of extra camera shots and whizz bang effects in the mix to make you forget.

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@Example1013 said:

@TorMasturba said:

I always feel confused at star wars droids, they're so lame, you'd think that with all their programming and machine level precision and accuracy that they'd hit their target first time every time.

Also a droid that screams in pain and makes jokes is kind of dumb too.

Don't get me wrong I really like star wars and I realise that a game has to have enemies that can be defeated but I think the above thoughts everytime I see C3PO cower and run from battle.

Uh, Star Wars was invented before the personal computer?

What are you even talking about? How does the personal computer have anything to do with this conversation?

Read some old science fiction novels and short stories. Artificial intelligence was a common topic in science fiction for at least a few decades before Star Wars came out. George Lucas not personally owning a computer should have nothing to do with whether his robots and androids are laughably incompetent.

I'm personally fine with Star Wars' whimsical setting with its incompetent droids, but TorMasturba has a fair position too, and your rebuttal was a complete non sequitur.

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These trailers really do make the game look like shit.

I want to believe

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That Imperial Agent is OP against Jedi. Nerf!

I don't really get what Bioware is trying to convey, those early trailers actually looked kinda cool, but this is some ugly stuff.

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It sounds like SW but it doesn't look like SW at all.

I'd probably be interested if they didn't make it all cute and cartoony. I blame Blizzard and WoW and I'm sick of that kind of art style.

Praise The Sun! Dark Souls is here to save us from those Happiness-in-your-face-art styles.

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@MisuseOfLasers said:

@MAD_JIHAD said:

Look at those graphics and tell me what year it is?

2005ish? If that.

Reminder that WoW was released in 2004, and if you think this is on the same graphical quality as WoW then I don't know what to say to you.

Agreed

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That finally Sniper helmet looked just like Cobra Commander's. "COOBRAAA!!"

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@MAD_JIHAD said:

Look at those graphics and tell me what year it is?

2005ish? If that.

Reminder that WoW was released in 2004, and if you think this is on the same graphical quality as WoW then I don't know what to say to you.

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@Foggen said:

Nice assassin class. I like how the second to last version looks just like Nova.

My thoughts exactly.