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The Infamy of Modern Warfare 2

More of the flavor and background on Infinity Ward's latest.

Oct. 4 2009

Posted by: Jeff

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This is taking things to whole new level and now we can finally understand why you could see the partially destroyed Capitol building in the background of the Box Art.
 
The trailer is indeed awesome, maybe a bit too awesome at first because I had to watch it several times before I got the whole thing (Cain and Abel stuff was weird at first but then why not - biblical references you know).
 
Then again where does this "new level" I mentioned above take us to? Hope they didn't loose themselves when they made the story (i.e. went too far or over-the-top) because I demand same high quality throughout the whole game.
 
Multiplayer - hell yeah, singleplayer - shaping up!

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To those saying the graphics are not that much better ... you should really go back and play MW1.  Looks way better to me  ;)

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I don't actually think he sounds Russian at all.

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@Branthog said:
" The suggestion in this trailer of a modern US "civil war" is awesome as hell. Finally we might be able to get out of those fucking endless "middle eastern village where everything is dust-brown" holes. Plus, chaos is more threatening when it's on your turf than random "brown-istan". "
Yea I agree, It's definitely a cooler set up to be trying to reclaim your own country. As for the civil war, I'm not sure. I was kinda thinking that when the guys were hiding in the bunker and the one soldier was on the comp. But then i saw some dust comin down from the roof and and soldiers helping other soldiers in. so they were probably hiding from some crazy shit that was goin down top side. either situation is gonna be crazy. can't wait for this
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Don't know what the fuck is really going on in this thread, but that trailer is awesome!!!

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i would play this if actiblizz could only find a way to get their employees motivated monetarily. if they can't find other ways to get their employees motivated then i won't play it. also, if they could get their employees to work for less money and charge more for their games then i would be stoked too.

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OMG!!!.....November hurry up and come already 

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They better have a good explanation for having the US capitol under attack. Seriously an invasion of the US capitol is an almost impossible feat for any world super power period, especially with the largest naval garrison in the world only a few hours away in Norfolk.

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@pbhawks45 said:

Russia is slowly going back to an authoritative government.

Sadly true, Russia is blatantly violating international human rights standards, but so is/was the USA (Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib, Death Penalty, Waterboarding and so forth - luckily Obama appears to be stopping some of that) - and so are most other countries. I still don't believe that a military confrontation between USA and Russia is imminent at this point.
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Awesome trailer!

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Sounds like the person talking about Cane & Abel is the US president.
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@Otzlowe said:
" Seriously? Does everyone have to try their hardest to make a Fallout connection with every game that's coming out in the near future? "
i guess New York and Vegas have been attacked to death in video games.. 2008-2010 D.C will BURN!!!! lol
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Would everybody give the whole D.C. thing a break, and what that guy says in the trailer about the United States fighting all over the world is correct. This is due to the fact that the Unites States is considered the watchdogs of the world, and we go to other countries to help establish a sense of democracy so that crazy dictators or whomever can't shit on the people who live there. Does it work all of the time? No.  Why because the U.N. is too full of babies that won't do anything. I am not saying other countries have not helped us e.g. United Kingdom, Australia, and Spain, and others not including France.  This is just the facts, and in no way have any disregard for any countries and or people.

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@Pepsicolaboy said:

" @DrLove said:

" @NinjaHunter said:

" @Pepsicolaboy said:
" why is the xbox logo at the end?  anyway this trailer seems a bit much. "
Because either A) IW knows that their biggest audience is on the 360 and could get some extra money by putting the logo there or B) Microsoft just straight up payed them. "
ill go with A) considering that the first MW sold like 3 million more on the 360 "
Doubt it.  That makes absolutely zero business sense, particularly given we're talking about a game published from the coffers of bobby kotick.  My point is; while there is no question that the 360 version will outsell the PS3 (probably by a difference proportional to the user base discrepancy, like last time) - there is no chance in hell Activision or IW would intentionally and so blatantly alienate an immense portion of their own user base without it being a simple business decision.  Microsoft offsets ($$) any potential loss of PS3 sales while the extra 360 promotion potentially creates extra revenue from increased sales on that console etc. Need I even mention microsoft's history will this kind of thing. Dont get me wrong, they can pay for what they want, thats capatilism. But theres no question they did.  Anyway, Im generally sick of all this shit. The games multiplatform - Ive never even played a COD game on anything except a PS or PC.   This kind of disingenuous campaigning is something I could live without. Games gonna rock though. "   

  "   Microsoft offsets ($$) any potential loss of PS3 sales"  why would the ps3 lose sales because of this? Batman had exclusive joker content and sold similar amount on the 360 (as per gametrailers podcast).    ""disingenuous"?lost me there, the 360 has map packs that are exclusive for a while.  if the difference in sales was something close or something insignificant id agree with you.  But when we are talking about over 3 million difference for MW and 2 mill difference for world at war those are huge amounts.  MOre the killzone 2 and Little big planet combined.  so ya the 360 version and userbase should be recognized and rewarded. 

 most importantly you are correct the game will be great and thats what matters.

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The Cain and Abel stuff is pretty pretentious for a dumb shoot-em-up

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@blackbeard said:
" Looks like MS must giving out BJ's, and good ones, to the IW crew... a 360 logo... it a cross platform game. *sigh*   ok ok... I know I am being an ass... but still :-/ On a lighter note... awesome trailer. I can't want to get my hands on this game. "
cross plat game that sold like 3 million more on the 360 the first time around...
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@Renegade: Sure. I could go for that - if I was living in the US. As of current exchangerates, I will have to pay 87 US dollars for MW2. 87 fucking dollars. This is because for some strange reason publishers think euro = dollars, so a game that's 60 dollars is 60 euro here = 87 dollars. Thanks alot, Steam.
  
As you probably understand, paying 90 dollars per game is a bit much, since I'm used to paying about 70 dollars, well, sometimes 50 if I order from the UK since the swedish currency has gained strength against the british one.  
 
So a 10 dollar premium for you, is quickly a 20-40 dollar premium for me. Luckily it seems some british sites will be selling it for under 50 dollars, so I can probably buy it, two weeks after my console brethren have played it.
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I am getting more and more excited about this game as each day passes.  Once I get my check in on Friday, I am pretty ordering this bad boy.

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This story line is way too far fetched, it would never get to that stage were they are fighting out of the whitehouse or even fighting on american soil. But oh well it does look fucking epic.
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@kingchris28 said:
" @dargonaut said:
" @LtColJaxson said:
" @hofmarskal said:
" How did they invade The United States Of freedomland?   And the "bad Guys" dont look Jihad'ish at all?  Interesting twist, although it has been done before... Its always Whashington DC!   Its a shame that the graphics havent been improved, it look almost identical to the first one.... Damm consoles, and their inferior hardware "
Jihad aren't a terrorist group, Taliban are.   And these graphics do look a lot better... "
Taliban isn't a terrorist group, al Qaeda is.  And jihad means "Muslim holy war against unbelievers." "
1) The Taliban is a relegiously led political organsiation. 2) A Jihad can be interpreted in many ways, formostly it is an inner struggle against temptation from things perceieved as lessening to your soul (which are not allowed in Islam). It can also be interpreted as expanding the Muslim faith, through peaceful means; and finally also it can be described as a holy war to achieve the same purpose. 90% of Muslims will consider a Jihad to be primarily the fight against inner temptation and struggle with yourself. "
This is the best line of dog-eat-dog comments I've seen in years!
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Looks like MS must giving out BJ's, and good ones, to the IW crew... a 360 logo... it a cross platform game. *sigh* 
  
ok ok... I know I am being an ass... but still :-/ 

On a lighter note... awesome trailer. I can't want to get my hands on this game.

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I can almost guarantee that the burning Washington DC shot was just a fantasy in the mind of the bad guy.  He could be explaining what he is going to do to some person while we see his vision of the future.
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@dargonaut said:
" @LtColJaxson said:
" @hofmarskal said:
" How did they invade The United States Of freedomland?   And the "bad Guys" dont look Jihad'ish at all?  Interesting twist, although it has been done before... Its always Whashington DC!   Its a shame that the graphics havent been improved, it look almost identical to the first one.... Damm consoles, and their inferior hardware "
Jihad aren't a terrorist group, Taliban are.   And these graphics do look a lot better... "
Taliban isn't a terrorist group, al Qaeda is.  And jihad means "Muslim holy war against unbelievers." "
1) The Taliban is a relegiously led political organsiation.
2) A Jihad can be interpreted in many ways, formostly it is an inner struggle against temptation from things perceieved as lessening to your soul (which are not allowed in Islam). It can also be interpreted as expanding the Muslim faith, through peaceful means; and finally also it can be described as a holy war to achieve the same purpose. 90% of Muslims will consider a Jihad to be primarily the fight against inner temptation and struggle with yourself.
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@TigerDX: The part of the world in which Call of Duty games are developed, and Activision Blizzard's largest single country for revenue is the United States. Thus, I personally wouldn't be so surprised that they use the accepted NA dating standard for their online trailers, especially considering that this dating type is used elsewhere, just like many other countries also drive on the right side of roads. Simple marketing, maybe overly simple (I mean, what's wrong with just clarifying by spelling out the month?) but simple nontheless, and certainly if you are living somewhere that uses the day-month-year or year-month-day format and you're not retarded, then you probably know by now that American publishers are going to use the NA format if they abbreviate a date in a trailer. Especially for the quintessential ultimate rah rah America lets-blow-shit-up action movie-esque game series, Call of Duty.
 
Also the date doesn't have significance for most Americans I would wager. Most people don't even know why December 7 is an important date, why would they care about the Marine Corps birthday? The average American is not a member of the armed services, and thus wouldn't observe this date. And if I know that, marketing professionals know that. It's just a date bro.
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@atomic_dumpling said:

" @DrLove said:

" @Ket87 said:

Terrorists are not from no name countries, the USA is not invincible, and Russia will in all likelihood be our enemy again.

post of the month "
This paranoid attitude is what we Europeans came to expect from the US of A after 9/11. First you made up a thread from Iraq to start a second war to satisfy your obvious need for revenge and hunt down Saddam Hussein (weapons of mass destruction my ass - not a single one was ever found), today the USA are more or less openly thinking about attacking Iran (Why? Because they can, I suppose). And now Russia again, seriously? Give me a break. "
Russia is slowly going back to an authoritative government. I suggest you look up the number of journalist murdered execution style.  
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia 
 
It's quite scary. I'm not saying they should invade Russia. But when Russian government sent their subs right on the US/International waters border, something they used to do during the cold war, it gives you an uneasy feeling. 
 
And there's no way the US will invade Iran. Too many casualties. I think our government has learned its lesson that you can't instill democracy in a place that has never had it. 
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@Ertard said:

" It got delayed two weeks today - for the PC. It's also 60 euro/dollars on PC as well.   Basically, Activision is telling you to pirate the game. That's what I'll do anyway, til they lower the price to 40-50 which is a reasonable price. I'm sorry, but I just don't see why MW2 is worth 20 euro more then any other game, and Activisions bullshit tactics (they tried to sell Prototype for 60 on PC as well) are just pissing me off and turning me off a purchase. "

If putting the price to match the console prices means more games that take advantage of the PC, and more companies focusing on PC only, then count me in as supporting making this a standard. I know that this probably won't be the case for MW2, but if it has that impact, I will be more than happy to pay the 10 dollar premium. 
 
However, as stated above, the graphics will likely be the same on PC and console for MW2, and that is what I'm sick and tired of. I'm also tired of the QUAKE 3 ENGINE. I mean honestly, do we really need to be using this engine for games anymore? I can understand from a business standpoint that this sequel will rake in a ton of cash for them due to low costs on engine development, but come on Infinity Ward, you're using an engine that was made in the 20th century! Get with it! 
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Yay! An attack on the U.S.A!

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It got delayed two weeks today - for the PC. It's also 60 euro/dollars on PC as well.  
 
Basically, Activision is telling you to pirate the game. That's what I'll do anyway, til they lower the price to 40-50 which is a reasonable price. I'm sorry, but I just don't see why MW2 is worth 20 euro more then any other game, and Activisions bullshit tactics (they tried to sell Prototype for 60 on PC as well) are just pissing me off and turning me off a purchase.

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@TigerDX said:

" The whole 11.10.09 date is nicely marketable in America, but it isn't nearly as catchy in, oh say, the rest of the world.  Anywhere they use the more sensible day/month/year, it doesn't make sense, and anywhere they use the international standard of year/month/day, again it makes no sense.  But then, this is marketing we're talking about, we can't expect them to be aware after all. "

day/month/year is more sensible? I wholeheartedly disagree, as that is entirely dependent on where you live. For example, if you lived in Canada, the current date would be presented as follows: First, you will start with the month, which is October. Next you will say the date, the 15th, to clarify the date of the month you are in. Finally, you will say the year, which is 2009. What does that give us? October 15th, 2009 or date/month/year. This makes perfect sense, and is very logical to state as that is the order you present the date in when you are not abbreviating it. Although it's use is limited, in terms of the number of countries that follow this formatting, it is utilized in an entire CONTINENT (US and Canada, eg. North America), and as such should be respected as simply another way of presenting this data.
 
However, are you stating that the rest of the world is so ignorant that it cannot know there are different ways of presenting a date? Besides, what does that have to do with being 'catchy'? If people are really curious, which they may be after watching the trailer, they would just look up the release date online if they couldn't understand the formatting. Your argument holds no water.
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@TigerDX said:

" The whole 11.10.09 date is nicely marketable in America, but it isn't nearly as catchy in, oh say, the rest of the world.  Anywhere they use the more sensible day/month/year, it doesn't make sense, and anywhere they use the international standard of year/month/day, again it makes no sense.  But then, this is marketing we're talking about, we can't expect them to be aware after all. "

You are right; it is a very marketable day in America seeing as it is the Marine Corps birthday and the day before Veteran's Day.   Dismissing the marketing department because they are focusing on their most lucrative region is absurd. Activision's world wide branches are handling local marketing respectively. Overseas it will just be the tenth of November, the day MW2 is released. And yes, I believe for most people, that will be enough.
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I...
..I think I just came in my pants.

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@dargonaut said:
" @LtColJaxson said:
" @hofmarskal said:
" How did they invade The United States Of freedomland?   And the "bad Guys" dont look Jihad'ish at all?  Interesting twist, although it has been done before... Its always Whashington DC!   Its a shame that the graphics havent been improved, it look almost identical to the first one.... Damm consoles, and their inferior hardware "
Jihad aren't a terrorist group, Taliban are.   And these graphics do look a lot better... "
Taliban isn't a terrorist group, al Qaeda is.  And jihad means "Muslim holy war against unbelievers." "
Jihad means "struggle" and it can be interpreted as a personal struggle or a physical struggle against enemies. Likewise the word terrorist can easily be applied to the Taliban just like it can to the United States. Both use terror to effect a political end. the Taliban use SVBIEDs, the U.S. uses 'shock & awe".
 
Anyway, more awesome voice acting and slick presentation. 
 
"Just as they lay waste to our country we shall lay waste to theirs!"
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@LtColJaxson said:
" @hofmarskal said:
" How did they invade The United States Of freedomland?   And the "bad Guys" dont look Jihad'ish at all?  Interesting twist, although it has been done before... Its always Whashington DC!   Its a shame that the graphics havent been improved, it look almost identical to the first one.... Damm consoles, and their inferior hardware "
Jihad aren't a terrorist group, Taliban are.   And these graphics do look a lot better... "
Taliban isn't a terrorist group, al Qaeda is.
 
And jihad means "Muslim holy war against unbelievers."
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Seriously? Does everyone have to try their hardest to make a Fallout connection with every game that's coming out in the near future?

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@DrLove said:

" @Ket87 said:

Terrorists are not from no name countries, the USA is not invincible, and Russia will in all likelihood be our enemy again.

post of the month "
This paranoid attitude is what we Europeans came to expect from the US of A after 9/11. First you made up a thread from Iraq to start a second war to satisfy your obvious need for revenge and hunt down Saddam Hussein (weapons of mass destruction my ass - not a single one was ever found), today the USA are more or less openly thinking about attacking Iran (Why? Because they can, I suppose). And now Russia again, seriously? Give me a break.
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but will there be first person televised executions?
FPTE or GTFO! lolol
 
+ now there's this big dilemma of console or PC, since they're the same price this time...

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@hofmarskal said:
" How did they invade The United States Of freedomland?   And the "bad Guys" dont look Jihad'ish at all?  Interesting twist, although it has been done before... Its always Whashington DC!   Its a shame that the graphics havent been improved, it look almost identical to the first one.... Damm consoles, and their inferior hardware "
Jihad aren't a terrorist group, Taliban are. 
 
And these graphics do look a lot better...
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lol the call of duty tag so doesnt fit in there its a bummer they just had 2 put it in and was that captain price on the boat part?

oh and LOTS of black hawk down inspiration at that car stage

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@hofmarskal said:
" How did they invade The United States Of freedomland?   And the "bad Guys" dont look Jihad'ish at all?  Interesting twist, although it has been done before... Its always Whashington DC!   Its a shame that the graphics havent been improved, it look almost identical to the first one.... Damm consoles, and their inferior hardware "
i beg to differ, there are lots of improvements to the graphics here. 
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How did they invade The United States Of freedomland?  
 
And the "bad Guys" dont look Jihad'ish at all? 
 
Interesting twist, although it has been done before... Its always Whashington DC!  
 
Its a shame that the graphics havent been improved, it look almost identical to the first one.... Damm consoles, and their inferior hardware
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DUDER!

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+1 to FireBurger

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This is a really good trailer.  I wasn't honestly that interested in this game - but now I may be coming around a little.

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Wow, are people really flipping shit over D.C getting fucked up?
 
Let me guess, you don't give a shit when they show stuff blowing up in Rio de Janeiro, Russia, or "Iraq," but God forbid there be an attack on the U.S. Get over it. It's not anti-American or any bullshit like that, it's simply a good story and much more interesting than yet another middle eastern village to blow to hell.
 
Sorry for all the cursing, but some people are so stupid.

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The whole 11.10.09 date is nicely marketable in America, but it isn't nearly as catchy in, oh say, the rest of the world.
 
Anywhere they use the more sensible day/month/year, it doesn't make sense, and anywhere they use the international standard of year/month/day, again it makes no sense.
 
But then, this is marketing we're talking about, we can't expect them to be aware after all.

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I said I was 80 years old!  I'm a filthy liar!

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The Story of Cain & Abel is far from exclusive to the Bible. The Torah and the Qu'ran have it, too, though the Qu'ran has a bit of a different ending. (God creates laws against murder rather than punish Cain for something that was not banned beforehand)

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Sounded like Edward James Olmos telling the story of Kane and Able.

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This is the same thing that Massive did with word in conflict, and i must say that im glad they did. I think that like in WIC, its only going to help the story get better. I usually never play the single player portion of any game twice, but for some reason i happily play cod4 twice, normal and vet. to me, that says a lot about that game's story (yes, i did beat the epilogue in vet...fuck the intel..lol). The only other game that i have more then once was mass effect.