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Edited by ross2075

Can I build a teepee? That's what I really need to know.

Edit: Or a yurt. I'd settle for a yurt

Posted by mrcraggle

I like what I'm seeing of the Sims 4 so what's the EA catch where they fuck it all up?

Edited by BigD145

Where's the basement garage? And the valley lot? I want to build on hills again. 3 went flat and I hope 4 borrows from 2, not 3.

Posted by GerbilsInSpace

I will not get burned again, a la Sim City. You can make good games, Maxis, make us happy.

Edited by gike987

Yes, wall heights and better window placement! Always was the thing missing to be able to build interesting houses.

I also vastly prefer the art style over the Sims 3, it feels more like a natural evolution from the first two games.

@mrcraggle said:

I like what I'm seeing of the Sims 4 so what's the EA catch where they fuck it all up?

I would guess the catch is all the expansion and millions of overpriced DLC furniture, just like in Sims 3.

Posted by Cogzwell

Sims do not dream. it is the one thing that seperates us from them.

Posted by forteexe21

So how will Alexis kill everyone in Sims 4? I'm guessing everyone will burn or drown. Maybe somehow both.

Posted by ReCkLeSs_X

I like

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Posted by Brashnir

but how are its videogame-character-wrestler-creating tools?

Posted by Vuud

Human zoo confirmed?

Posted by Pr1mus
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Posted by damehasclass

YESSSSS. Building in the Sims is my favorite. This looks so great.

Posted by Chaos

the more I see of the sim 4, the more I want to play it. I'm still going to wait on the verdict of the game before i buy it. I really fell EA may pull another simcity on us.

Posted by Chicken008

The Sims 4: Human Zoo
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Posted by BeachThunder

@alex said:

@thegorilla: THIS IS KIND OF A TERRIFYING QUESTION.

Ah, it looks like you didn't watch the 24 hour livestream :P

Posted by alwaysbebombing

I fucking adore The Sims games. Owned every one since the very beginning.

Posted by Jimbozu

So I assume they are removing all the advanced build tools from Sims 3? It looks like they simplified a lot of stuff, but I'm guessing that means they removed the ability to do split level houses or basement garages and the like. Too bad =(

Posted by TehPickle

Woah that's looking pretty slick.

I just hope there's enough furniture and decorations to choose from to make homes as unique looking inside. Without having to spend a fortune on DLC and expansions, I mean.

As much as I've always enjoyed playing The Sims, I've always found it to be one of the more grubby games for squeezing money out of folks who want a greater variety of things to choose from. In that sense, the base games always feel kinda barebones.

EA has to be EA somewhere along the lines, I guess.

Posted by damehasclass

@jimbozu said:

So I assume they are removing all the advanced build tools from Sims 3? It looks like they simplified a lot of stuff, but I'm guessing that means they removed the ability to do split level houses or basement garages and the like. Too bad =(

I wouldn't give up hope on that just yet. It's a short preview video, and I'm sure there are more advanced tools to be had that wouldn't fit into the quick demo they wanted to do. It would be weird to do a step backward in that regard, but we won't really know until we get more info. Here's hoping!

Posted by extragingerbrew

The only true way I can make a purchase worthy option is to watch Alexis do a quick look of this. Human Zoo possible? Can you set off fireworks in the kitchen? Place beds outside? Make a "death bed" of remembrance for the recently departed? I need him to make a Giant Bomb household run through. If Alexis isn't included in the quick look of the Sims 4....we riot!

Posted by GasparNolasco

@bigd145 said:

Where's the basement garage? And the valley lot? I want to build on hills again. 3 went flat and I hope borrows from 2, not 3.

Faces look just like the Sims 3 weird 'pillow faces', so I'll say they probably borrowed a lot from the last game.

Posted by TurboMan

Is Maxis actually going to make me interested in a Sims game after Sim City? I'm a sucker for the Sims.

Posted by GasparNolasco

Woah that's looking pretty slick.

I just hope there's enough furniture and decorations to choose from to make homes as unique looking inside. Without having to spend a fortune on DLC and expansions, I mean.

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I would't hold high hopes for that, friend.

The main cash grab in Sims game was always to get you constantly returning each time an expansion came out. Not to mention the thousands of single items in the EA store, like clothes and pieces of furniture.

I didn't buy into it much in Sims 3, but I'm sure EA has been perfecting their micro-transaction machine just for this.

Edited by gike987
@alex said:

@thegorilla: THIS IS KIND OF A TERRIFYING QUESTION.

Spending hours decorating their house and having them live their life only to kill them all when you grow bored of them is pretty much how you play The Sims.

There is a reason most expansions introduce new ways to kill your sims and new ghost types related to them. This is the best video I could find with most of the deaths in Sims 3:

Edited by FinalDasa

For a brief time period in high school I wanted to be an architect. This awakens those days of AutoCAD.

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Posted by mrcraggle

@gike987: The Sims has always been like that though so that's not really a surprise. Like with Sims City and Battlefield 4, those games were fucked and going forward I can only feel that every EA is exactly that.

Posted by Jimbozu

@damehasclass: It just looks to me like they are moving towards a even more "casual" (I hate that word) friendly approach to the entire game. In an of itself this isn't a bad thing, since most of the Sims' audience would probably fall into that category. Any tools in the previous games that were considered too complicated or not polished enough for the "casual" audience were just hidden away in cheat menus. From the video it looks all the advanced tools from the sims 3 have been added to the core building toolset, which probably means they are no where near as versatile.

I definitely hope that I'm wrong, but it just seems like this new Sims is falling into the same traps as Simcity, in that they are alienating the "core gamer" audience in favor of the more "casual" playerbase.

Posted by TheGorilla
@alex said:

@thegorilla: THIS IS KIND OF A TERRIFYING QUESTION.

Oh god Alex, what have I done. I was just talking about locking everyone in the house and watching the trash pile up like they did on the last Giant Bomb charity stream. Please don't think I'm a monster. It's just that in my experience that's what people enjoy doing more than watching sims go to work.

I remember people used to build a two story house and then delete the bottom floor with all the sims stuck on the second story. That kind of stuff. Not like SAW.

Posted by claudeandmaddie

I wonder if you can have apartments

Posted by flasaltine

What? Why would that comment get deleted? Unless that guy deleted it himself I don't see why it should be moderated.

Edited by Desram

I wonder if they're going to sell us all the exact same DLC over the next few years again. For the 4th time.

Posted by KoolAid

Looks like I'll finally be able to build my wizard tower.

Posted by GERALTITUDE

Man, the tech behind these games is utterly baffling / mind-blowing. Imagine if there were game-making tools half as powerful as the Sims.

Edited by Ravelle

@mrcraggle said:

I like what I'm seeing of the Sims 4 so what's the EA catch where they fuck it all up?

Always online requirement probably.

Edited by totaboy

I want more complex building tools and curved walls... Building houses is the best part of The Sims. I don't really care about the other stuff... :P

Edited by gike987

@ravelle said:

@mrcraggle said:

I like what I'm seeing of the Sims 4 so what's the EA catch where they fuck it all up?

Always online requirement probably.

They already said this wouldn't be the case after Sim City. I doubt they will mess this game up too much, they probably don't want to mess with the ridiculous cash cow that all the DLC and expansions for this game is.

Posted by Corevi

I don't even want to think about how much it would cost to buy Sims 3 and all the expansions. Hopefully Sims 4 comes with at least some of that stuff from the get go.

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Posted by DystopiaX

@gike987 said:

@ravelle said:

@mrcraggle said:

I like what I'm seeing of the Sims 4 so what's the EA catch where they fuck it all up?

Always online requirement probably.

They already said this wouldn't be the case after Sim City. I doubt they will mess this game up too much, they probably don't want to mess with the ridiculous cash cow that all the DLC and expansions for this game is.

Microtransactions where you have to pay a couple dollars for different furniture/clothing/tilesets etc.

Edited by Humanity

You know what guys? I'm really excited to play me some Sims.

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Edited by heatDrive88

Sims don't "have" nightmares, they get willfully thrown into them - like the last time @alexisg and @dannyodwyer decided to do a charity livestream.

Posted by Budwyzer

The Goth's house is sort of the house I've always wanted, with that top room being my bedroom because fuck the rest of the house while I'm sleeping.

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Posted by BatmanBatman

For a brief time period in high school I wanted to be an architect. This awakens those days of AutoCAD.

I remember my dad struggling with AutoCAD back in the day, then I would be playing the Sims and tease him that my house looked better than his :D

Posted by Mikemcn

This will be even better after $600 of expansions

Posted by gbrading

They are going to micro-transaction this game to hell. They've done it retroactively with The Sims 3, they'll definitely do it to 4.

Posted by JohnJamieson

I am super excited about the pre-furnished rooms. Interior design sucks.

Posted by w_drive

Looks cool but... this is gonna have Oculus Rift support eventually, right? I'd buy that expansion.

Posted by huser

Oh man! I broke up Bella and Mortimer Goth way back in the original Sims. I wondered for a while why Bella's "little sister" and "brother" were so mad at me following that. Completely missed that one. Actually felt bad about it once I realized the super obvious.

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