Click To Unmute

Want us to remember this setting for all your devices?

Sign up or Sign in now!

Please use a html5 video capable browser to watch videos.
This video has an invalid file format.
00:00:00
Sorry, but you can't access this content!
Please enter your date of birth to view this video

By clicking 'enter', you agree to Giant Bomb's
Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

The Sith Warrior Fights Jedi In The Old Republic

Someone is going to get tossed off this bridge.

May. 31 2010

Posted by: Matt

In This Episode:

Star Wars: The Old Republic

50 Comments

Avatar image for rickty
Rickty

37

Forum Posts

4

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 3

Edited By Rickty

Really want this game to do well, please have deep story and fantastic narrative. If anyone can do it you can Bioware!

Avatar image for necrothug
Necrothug

50

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 2

Edited By Necrothug

Nice!
Avatar image for quicklookman
quicklookman

92

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

Edited By quicklookman

looks good

Avatar image for raspberry
Raspberry

71

Forum Posts

272

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 3

Edited By Raspberry

woo

Avatar image for splodge
splodge

3309

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By splodge

nooooo

Avatar image for ursus_veritas
Ursus_Veritas

413

Forum Posts

7803

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 15

User Lists: 7

Edited By Ursus_Veritas

I hope there are some starting/low level Jedi/Sith robes rather than that weird tight armour 'suit' sort of thing. That looks a little odd on Jedi and Sith.

Avatar image for phobic
phobic

20

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By phobic

Please let this not suck Bioware!

Avatar image for dexterslu
dexterslu

305

Forum Posts

438

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 4

Edited By dexterslu

The Art style is actually shaping up pretty well, looks rad! 

Avatar image for sociald1077
sociald1077

283

Forum Posts

59

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 3

Edited By sociald1077

I understand its a game, and I loved KOTOR, but there is one thing that has always bugged me about the Star Wars games I have played: Light Sabers should be a one hit kill.
 
Other than that, it looks interesting, and if I still played MMO's I would give it a whirl.

Avatar image for wrecks
wrecks

2685

Forum Posts

1152

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 13

Edited By wrecks

Toons.

Avatar image for crazedjoker
CrazedJoker

332

Forum Posts

120

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 3

Edited By CrazedJoker

Nope.

Avatar image for sporkbane
Sporkbane

185

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By Sporkbane

I can't wait to play this game.

Avatar image for blacklab
blacklab

2025

Forum Posts

22

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

Edited By blacklab

Anytime I hear the Gregorian chant voices in any piece of film or game media I automatically assume it's going to suck.  It's an overused, terrible total cop-out, basically smashing you on the head and saying 'pay attention, this is dramatic'. 
 
Other than that - I hope this has Cryo-ban grenades.

Avatar image for willy105
Willy105

4959

Forum Posts

14729

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 1

Edited By Willy105
@Rickty said:
" Really want this game to do well, please have deep story and fantastic narrative. If anyone can do it you can Bioware! "
Yeah. Usually things like that in games aren't worth anything, but if Bioware is touting this for story, it better deliver.
Avatar image for raiz265
raiz265

2264

Forum Posts

6

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

Edited By raiz265

I'm underwhelmed.

Avatar image for nzv
NZV

140

Forum Posts

25

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

Edited By NZV
@sociald1077 said:
" I understand its a game, and I loved KOTOR, but there is one thing that has always bugged me about the Star Wars games I have played: Light Sabers should be a one hit kill.  Other than that, it looks interesting, and if I still played MMO's I would give it a whirl. "
 This has always bothered me as well. It would be a lot nicer if these games always animated hits with a lightsaber as dodges or parries, except for the final blow. It would give off a much more cinematic feel and wouldn't make it seem like you're hitting a person with a nerf bat rather than a laser sword.
Avatar image for meatsim
MeatSim

11201

Forum Posts

150

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 23

Edited By MeatSim

Looks like MMO combat but a MMO I want to play.

Avatar image for outerabiz
outerabiz

717

Forum Posts

16

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By outerabiz

if they don't fail on this project, i will gladly give them some of my money every month, for an extended period of time.
 
or ... WILL PLAY

Avatar image for meowshi
Meowshi

2917

Forum Posts

25

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

Edited By Meowshi

 Lightsabers can't be a one-hit kill if you want your single player game to be challenging and your multiplayer game to be balanced.  
 
And honestly NZV, your idea doesn't sound too appealing.  I can't imagine feeling like much of a hero if 95% of my attacks missed.  The combat would simply be underwhelming if there was not contact.   Besides, you're forgetting the fact that half the classes in this game use guns.  They have nothing to parry a lightsaber with.
 
Should lightsabers be a one-hit kill?  Sure.  Can that possibly work in a video-game like this?  No.

Avatar image for djaoni
djaoni

340

Forum Posts

1

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

Edited By djaoni
@sociald1077 said:
" I understand its a game, and I loved KOTOR, but there is one thing that has always bugged me about the Star Wars games I have played: Light Sabers should be a one hit kill.  Other than that, it looks interesting, and if I still played MMO's I would give it a whirl. "
Jedi Academy? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlgCrDrjaGU

There's also Open Jedi Project and a bunch of other mods.

Avatar image for carlos1408
Carlos1408

1635

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

Edited By Carlos1408

I hope this turns out to be good!

Avatar image for blitzer
Blitzer

431

Forum Posts

408

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 4

Edited By Blitzer
@Rickty said:
" Really want this game to do well, please have deep story and fantastic narrative. If anyone can do it you can Bioware! "
It's Bioware, the story will be amazing. My worry is, will it be "MMOy" enough for me to quit WoW? 
 
They need a strong reason for me to keep playing (raiding, etc). Also the combat has to feel right and they need "grindy" aspects. (A feeling of investing into your character)
Avatar image for piranesi
Piranesi

467

Forum Posts

20

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 6

Edited By Piranesi

Isn't Star Wars mean't to be a little rubbish these days? You know, what with the last good film coming out 30 years ago (and yes you are really that old). 
 
Speaking of tossing off, what they should do is create an MMO set in the Star Trek universe, there's no way that will be junk ...
Avatar image for brazzle
brazzle

325

Forum Posts

12

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

Edited By brazzle

If there wasn`t a monthly fee I would play the shit out of this game.
 
Hell even if they wanted an exorbitant amount for a life time fee like with star trek I would be very tempted.

Avatar image for burningstariv
burningstariv

31

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

Edited By burningstariv

Everything about this game sounds bitchin' on paper, but that combat really didn't look all that exciting. I just looked like your typical MMO combat wrapped in a thin layer of Star Wars. I'm sure that is exactly what some people want, but I don't think that that is going to be enough to make me get in to an MMO for the first time. I think I have to agree with sociald107. If they could figure out something to make the combat not look so bland and have the animations actually have a cinematic feel to them, it would be a lot more appealing to me. I mean, even just looking back at the movies, in any lightsaber battle, the characters were very rarely hitting one another with their sabers, yet it was usually clear who was winning and who was losing. Now obviously this shifted several times throughout a fight, but that just made for a more interesting and dynamic action sequence. Really, I see no reason that something like that couldn't be applied to a game. And in something like this, you still keep all your numbers and the behind the scene's stats and hp would all stay pretty much the same; however on the outside you have blocks, parry's, and dodges for animation so that it keeps a bigger sense of excitement and 'realism' to the action. Then I think that the implementation of some sort of bar or display that shows you which way the battle is swaying and how far from the final blow the players are. Hopefully, if done correctly, the bar wouldn't really even be that important, as you could watch the action and infer who was clearly was winning and who was on the ropes. The only really promblem I myself can see with this system is that in order to make it fair, the struggle would have to be able to swayed back and forth easily enough to make both players feel like they have a chance of turning the tides. This would be a huge pain to balance, and any tweaks made to the system could throw it off very easily. 

Wow, that was a bit long winded and detailed... Guess i got carried away.

Avatar image for gosukiller
gosukiller

2344

Forum Posts

80

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 4

Edited By gosukiller

Good games turning into MMOS = No ty.
They (mmos) already ruined Warcraft for me. What's next, Mass Effect Galaxies?

Avatar image for paulwade1984
paulwade1984

493

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By paulwade1984

Wow, this seems.... absolutely awful.
Art style is interestingly childish.
Maybe pop round to Naughty dogs animation department, missing a few frames.... everywhere.
 
Completely uninterested in this. Bring on Me3

Avatar image for kalmis
kalmis

1745

Forum Posts

6127

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 115

User Lists: 6

Edited By kalmis

Damn i love that track. Wish my PC would run this game :(

Avatar image for solidlife
solidlife

910

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

Edited By solidlife

Classes that can only be on One Fraction Oh no! class balance if there is pvp 

Avatar image for zaapp1
Zaapp1

716

Forum Posts

556

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 9

Edited By Zaapp1
@sociald1077 said:
" I understand its a game, and I loved KOTOR, but there is one thing that has always bugged me about the Star Wars games I have played: Light Sabers should be a one hit kill.
May I direct you to the Cortosis Weave page?
Avatar image for fox01313
fox01313

5256

Forum Posts

2246

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 19

Edited By fox01313

Thought that from the still screen preview that it was either for the DS or turned to a side scrolling camera. Still looks in that realm of okay, will know more when I play it though it's going to be hard to top having your own Galaxy class ship in Star Trek Online.

Avatar image for randominternetuser
RandomInternetUser

6805

Forum Posts

769

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

As much as I love BioWare and all their games... I'm still not convinced that this is going to deliver at all at being a more compelling MMO experience than World of Warcraft.

Avatar image for jefferyduke
JefferyDuke

7

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By JefferyDuke

C'mon Bioware, don't fail us now. You guys rock so hard and this game looks like a blasty blast and a half!

Avatar image for jos1ah
jos1ah

333

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 3

Edited By jos1ah

sucked

Avatar image for slaneesh
Slaneesh

870

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 3

Edited By Slaneesh
@gosukiller said:
" Good games turning into MMOS = No ty. They (mmos) already ruined Warcraft for me. What's next, Mass Effect Galaxies? "
Thats not unrealistic. The name even sound like the one that would be used.
Avatar image for kaincarver
KainCarver

133

Forum Posts

298

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 5

Edited By KainCarver

Looks pretty badass

Avatar image for chilipeppersman
chilipeppersman

1319

Forum Posts

4

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 26

User Lists: 4

Edited By chilipeppersman

this could be either reallly good, or very very bad haha

Avatar image for slax
slax

1229

Forum Posts

1281

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 8

Edited By slax

I'm really excited for this game! That said, i'm really curious how the balancing is going to work out...

Avatar image for re_player1
RE_Player1

8074

Forum Posts

1047

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By RE_Player1

I can't wait. Tried wow and got to level 40 but was bored. 

Avatar image for roger778
Roger778

960

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By Roger778

I honestly have doubts whether this is going to be good or not.  I mean, I'm excited that it's a new game from Bioware, and that it's a new Star Wars game, but right now, the characters look awful, and way too blocky, and also it's a MMO Game, which doesn't excite me.
 
All I can hope for is good reviews when it comes out later this year, or next year.  

Avatar image for shooterjoseph
ShooterJoseph

97

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By ShooterJoseph

Sweet. =]

Avatar image for bravetoaster
BraveToaster

12636

Forum Posts

250

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

Edited By BraveToaster

the combat looked a little boring in that trailer, but i still wanna play

Avatar image for kaspar
Kaspar

161

Forum Posts

21

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By Kaspar
@phobic: What was the last BioWare game that sucked?
Avatar image for superbobafett
superbobafett

111

Forum Posts

19

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 12

Edited By superbobafett

simply, can't wait.  This is the first game in a decade where I've been THIS excited about a single title coming out (well, MGS 3 Snake Eater, so not quite a decade).

Avatar image for computerplayer1
Computerplayer1

1066

Forum Posts

401

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 10

User Lists: 2

Edited By Computerplayer1

God I wish the animations were better.
 
Other than that I'm sure this will be crazy awesome. I'm still waiting for Guild Wars 2, though as I can't afford to pump out $15 a month for a single game haha.

Avatar image for l3roken
l3roken

130

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

Edited By l3roken
@Ursus_Veritas: I hope there are NO low level jedi/sith or those will be the ONLY classes anyone ever plays.
Avatar image for ursus_veritas
Ursus_Veritas

413

Forum Posts

7803

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 15

User Lists: 7

Edited By Ursus_Veritas
@l3roken: For the republic, there are 2 Jedi Classes - Knight and Consular, The Soldier and The Smuggler. The Sith get 2 Sith - The Inquisitor and The Warrior, as well as the Bounty Hunter and The Imperial Agent. So yeah, there are Force classes from the get go - to be honest, unlike Galaxies, it's set in a world where both Jedi and Sith are out in large numbers, so it makes sense. 
 
I'll have a Jedi Character when I try TOR out, but I'm much more interested in being a Bounty Hunter. Shame that they seem to be tied to the Sith Empire rather than the Republic though - surely Smugglers and Bounty Hunters should be neutral classes?
Avatar image for l3roken
l3roken

130

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

Edited By l3roken
@Ursus_Veritas: Don't get me wrong, I want to be Sith/Jedi and I did know about the classes.  I just have played WoW since beta and there was a severe lack of balance with classes there in the beginning, and with each class having much less draw then an infamous sith or legendary jedi archetype.  It's great to hear ou say that bounty hunter sounds more your style, and I am sure in time other players will come to that conclusion but I just fear the opening weeks.  I do agree, however, that the smuggler and bounty hunter should be neutral but at the same time, the smuggler is working against the empire so they theoretically can be considered "rebels" and Darth Vader is the only person who employed bounty hunters in the films so I can understand the connection there.  My statement was shortsighted and connected to a game I never played, I just felt like anyone I talked to who achieved that honor was so proud and it ensured that they weren't some scrub because they had worked long enough to DESERVE the powers of such a strong class.  Either way, I have faith Bioware will have this game balanced and make sure its tons of fun by next year.
Avatar image for wickedfather
WickedFather

1694

Forum Posts

7

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By WickedFather

Looks like Kotor, you know - shit.