The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Are Coming Out of the Shadows This Summer

@branthog: I don't think kids understand or care about the concept of syndication. They think every thing is new.

Uhhh... Batman was out in 1939. There are numerous other counterexamples. In fact I don't think kids give two shits about how old things are. They don't even have the concept of syndication. If someone were to ask me as a little kid how old I thought Tv shows like "The Brady Bunch", "Scooby Doo: Where are You?", "Leave it to Beaver", or "Looney Tunes" were? I would say they were all from the present and not care when they told me they were old. It's new to me. Why would I care?

Wasn't Rocksteady making a TMNT game?

It's more that Michael Bay is looking to repeat what happened with Transformers, to the point where he's even hiring Megan Fox back after she refused to be in TF3. I'm not saying I expect Shia LeBouf as Casey Jones, of course, just that Bay's head is still in the same place. Rather than make something of his own creation (like Bad Boys or Armageddon) he wants to surf the wave of 80's and 90's nostalgia and monkey around with somebody else's franchise without holding any kind of reverence or respect for it. You could argue that he's just "making them his own" or whatever, but if you're coming in to somebody else's franchise with the intent on ignoring a lot of the reason that is appealing, then why don't you just nix your ties with the existing license and do something original? Transformers did not have an exclusive trademark on giant fighting robots. The answer is that people remember Transformers, and you can make more money by cashing in on things people remember. There's less pretense of wanting (or needing) to make a good movie, and more motivation to just poop out something that makes all of the money.

That first Ninja Turtles movie was pretty good! The 2005 cartoon was pretty good for a couple years! This 2012 cartoon is above average! Regardless of what merchandising the Ninja Turtles spawned, it does have the capacity to be entertaining and enjoyable even today. It's not too much to want more of that, is it?

How dare somebody care about the quality of something you probably do not!

Kinda like you back when the last Mortal Kombat game came out ;)

This is either the "Dark Knight Rises" of turtle games or at least more true to the source.

I'm in the minority, but this looks cool

@blazehedgehog said:

@branthog said:

Because the kids are all about games based on comics from years before they were even born and/or because I need to go back to 1989, when I gave a shit about the turtles stuff. . .

You know there's a new Ninja Turtles cartoon that just premiered on Nickelodeon like, two months ago, right? And it's actually not bad, either.

http://www.nick.com/shows/ninja-turtles/

I am totally lost as to why they're using these creepy realistic Turtles designs and not the ones from the new cartoon, though.

God that new show it good.

Lotta butthurt nerdrage in this comments section.

Yes, that was in reference to the fact that it's never going to satisfy fans or be the movie they want, especially when Michael Bay is involved.

You constantly have a bunch of people who say there needs to be a Transformers movie that's more like the cartoon. Oh you mean like The Transformers: The Movie? The exact thing they're asking for already exists, but that's not good enough especially in a world where the live action movie is way more popular, and that's the big problem fans have, ie the new thing is going to be the thing that everybody knows rather than their version. Seriously, it doesn't matter.

Read online? I literally heard one of the creators of TMNT, Kevin Eastman say it.

Yes, I have read the early issues of TMNT, and they are the way they are because of Frank Miller's Daredevil. I also remember the opening of the first episode of the 2003 cartoon being a line for line adaption of the opening panels of the original comic. Again yes I've read them, and yes I remember them.

What I've been saying are either my own opinions or facts, nothing else.

Oh and if everybody already knew that the new TMNT was going to be bad based on Micheal Bay alone then why does anybody care about Megan Fox being April O'Neil? You already knew it was going to bad, you already said it was going to be the worst thing ever, you already made up your mind, so why are you acting like your rediscovering the fact that Bay is directing the new movie every time a new piece of info comes out about it.

Btw what is April O'Neil supposed to be exactly? Is she a lab assistant, a reporter, a high school student? She's been different in nearly every incarnation.

Oh and my joke earlier about Megan Fox playing April comes via Bryan Lynch on Twitter

"Brian Lynch ‏@BrianLynch

Calm down, everyone. Megan Fox is great. Loved her in JENNIFER'S BODY. She'll more than be able to say "Look out Raphael" convincingly."

FYI Brian Lynch is the writer of the current TMNT comic, which alot of TMNT fans enjoy, yet even he is poking fun at the ridiculousness of the fans when it comes to this stuff.

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Did the bolded text not stand out?

Also guess what happens if Bay's TMNT is successful? They'll be more TMNT movies like it follow. Guess what happens if it's not successful? You won't see another one for awhile.

Anyways we could have a good live action TMNT movie, and the first live action movie (that was based on early issues of the original comic and the Lenonardo One Shot) was pretty decent and still holds up well in certain respects, but this upcoming one obviously isn't going to be that. I thought you knew that already.

@charlee_coco: Besides If your argument is that it cant be made good, then why make it at all?

@charlee_coco: Anyone can regurgitate what they read online but have you read any of the early tmnt comics? You would be hard pressed to find stories as well written, filled with emotion and tragedy as those books were, so yes Im serious. Why don't you try forming your own opinions instead of spewing what you've been spoon fed by the industry? They are trying to sell you something after all.Megan Fox as April Oneil? come on.

You don't think Megan Fox will be able to yell "Look out Raph!" convincingly?

My point being think about what is required of that movie. Not to mention we've for the most part grown up with terrible TMNT movies, so why is there an expectation that this one could or would be good? A majority of the franchise when you look back at it hasn't been good.

I personally think the new cartoon is fantastic. It's done very well, but you could never do that style of show as a live action movie. It's this hybrid of anime and comedy influences would be difficult to portray in anything but a cartoon. Actually you could do a movie like that as evident by Scott Pilgrim, but then it would probably only be as successful as Scott Pilgrim.

Good things get fewer and fewer because there's always going to be more bad than good, but believe it or not good things don't suddenly stop existing. For instance shows like The Wire, Breaking Bad, etc, don't stop existing because of new crappy shows.

Also the "art and soul" are you freaking serious? The original creation of the Ninja Turtles was born out of Kevin Eastman simply trying to annoy Peter Laird one day while Laird was watching TV. When they ended up turning the idea into a comic they made the comic of Frank Miller's Daredevil. The show gave birth to a line of toys that a had a cartoon development deal attached to them. A cartoon that was specifically designed to sell toys. Note the toys came before the cartoon, alot of people think it was the other way around. Same with Transfomers. Btw all of this and more is explained by Eastman on a podcast called Bagged and Boarded. So which part of the TMNT heart and soul is the upcoming movie missing? The annoying part, the parody part, or created to sell toys part? People make things like TMNT and Transformers out to be something that they weren't.

It's not that I don't believe a good live action TMNT can't be done it's more that if I know that the Micheal Bay TMNT is going to be terrible, then it's going to terrible. No amount of dwelling on it or complaining is going to change that, I mean aren't the Transformers movies proof enough of that. People have the freedom of speech and can complain all they want, but after all the non stop complaints and fan hate for the Bayformers movies what happened? What changed as a result, or what impact did fans have?

People complain about the industry now more than ever, and it only keeps getting worse, so please explain to me how how it's gotten better with all the complaining that's happened? Take a step back and look at what things actually get changed as a result of complaints and realize that those are the things that you can effect and put more focus into those things.

Eww gross. Too bad this isn't based on the Nicktoon. That show is actually quite good! It's on Hulu too.

@charlee_coco: Actually I think the number of good things to enjoy get fewer and fewer all the time, mostly because of opinions like yours.Today's ADD society is willing to fork over money for a sub par product as long as its shiny and makes a lot of noise, with zero respect for the art and soul that made it famous to begin with. If you don't ever complain and keep supporting the soulless beast that the entertainment industry has become, you will just get more and more soulless garbage in return.

Considering this is probably based on the upcoming Michael "I'm gonna shit alllll over this license and the nostalgia fans have for it" Bay movie not really surprising the Turtles are fugly as hell.

not a fan of the character design

This looks interesting. Here's hoping for local co-op...

You can complain all you want and you don’t have to give anything the benefit of the doubt either, but think about this, what is it that you want? If you’re asking for or wanting a “good” Transformers or TMNT movie realize that it’s something that isn’t a possibility. In other words this is something that can never be good because it’s a Transformers/TMNT movie. Just because bad versions of something exist doesn’t mean there can be a good version of it as well. Rather than thinking about how bad Michael Bay will screw things up pull the picture further back and ask yourself is it even a good idea to try and make a movie to begin with, or is there any way that movie could ever be good or what it would have to accomplish to do that.

So many people will complain about not having the time to watch good shows/movies that people recommend them or play games in their back log or whatever but then those same people will go to no end in terms of the amount of time they will take to complain about something they think is bad. In other words stop wasting so much time with bad crap. It’s not like the amount of good things out there or those things you want to try/experience are in short supply anymore, not to mention we have more free content available to us than ever before, so why spend so much time hating on X thing instead of experiencing something good or that you actually want to be doing?

TMNT is always going to be something that is stronger as a cartoon, comic, or toys than a movie or video game. In the advent of things like Arkham City it’s easier to point to examples of things a new TMNT game could be like, but it seems uncertain that anybody will spend that amount of money on a TMNT game. If the movie comes out and does well then maybe, but then again all the Transformers movies did amazing and we got a lot of crap movie tie in games and two pretty good/decent Transformers games out of the Cybertron series.

Oh and just a heads up or FYI, but this is game is 1 of 3 TMNT games coming out this year. I’m guessing at least one of them will be based on the current cartoon, but the overall deal is with Activision and I gotta imagine that they’re going to try and pump each one out as quickly as possible for as little (development) money as possible.

This is an awfully jaded and cynical way to view the world, I think. At least as far as I'm concerned, Michael Bay has a track record with the Transformers franchise of disrespecting source material in order to make his own crappy, hamfisted, teal and orange vision of what he thinks things are about, based on watching all of 30 minutes and making up the rest as he goes along. There are people who will tell you that Transformers 2 is one of the worst movies of all time, and while I wouldn't go that far, it definitely is nearly incomprehensible and a massive waste of money (both for people who pay to watch it and the people who paid to make it). I don't even have an attachment to the Transformers franchise like some do, and just as movies that stand on their own, they are pretty bad.

There are directors and writers that could be attached to the new Ninja Turtles movie that would make a lot of people go "Oh man this is going to be great". Michael Bay is not one of them. He used to make movies that were loud and stupid in the best way possible, but now he makes movies that are loud and stupid in the worst way possible. The buzz about Megan Fox playing April O'Neill in his movie tells me everything I need to know, and it's that I don't need to see it.

I'm willing to give the game and movie a chance, but if they suck, I get to complain for eternity just like the bombcrew and all the other 30 somethings do about Micheal Bay fucking up shit from their childhood with transformers. That's how this works, right?

=P

People can complain about it all they want, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm referring to the moronic nature they go about doing it and/or not even realizing why they do it. For instance when people on Twitter hashtag "Turtlegate" in reference to the new movie without even knowing what it means or where the "gate" part of the word originated. Then there's the whole part about them hating on it simply because they're selfish and only want people to experience the version that they know and it only. This isn't about freedom of speech it's about stupidity, realizing what it is you're saying, and what it is that you can do and/or are capable of.

It's the same type of moronic behavior that lead to the phrase "ruining my childhood!" How the hell is some one ruining your past tense? Unless this new thing is bringing up some terrible memory you suppressed from your childhood (when you saw Star Wars in theaters or whatever) then there's no way it can ruin your childhood, because it's something that's already happened. Surely your adulthood can be disappointed, but a childhood can only be ruined during a (wait for it) childhood. Shocking huh? Now obviously some people early on used the phrase because a childhood is considered to be a precious thing and therefore makes it sound more important, but then you have the large majority of people that use it without even realizing what they're saying. It's the same group(s) of people that turned the word "emo" from a style of music to a negative thing to eventually an insult to now where the word has nearly no definition because it's used to loosely and all encompassing.

Oh and yes, BTAS is better than most cartoons now days (same goes Gargoyles - another show that was similar in tone and animated by the same Japanese studio that did BTAS) but remind me, what decade was BTAS from? Was it the 80's? Remember that part where I specifically said 80's cartoons? No? You weren't paying attention to that part? It's weird that I specifically referred to the 80's and not just "our cartoons" in general huh? Almost as if I was aware that there were shows that debuted in the 90's that are better than what we have today.

Also it's not as if the the most recent or last cartoon iteration of Batman was bad. Brave and The Bold was done very well and has been given alot of praise. Of course when it was announced people lost their shit (per usual) because it wasn't what they were used to and was more inspired by the Silver Age Batman, but once people gave it a chance they realized it was actually good. Oh and exact same thing happened with the new TMNT as well. Or how about the fact that Heath Ledger now has gone on to critical acclaim for his version of the Joker when no comic book fan in the world would've ever recommended him for the part originally.

My point being that alot of fans tend to be so far up their own ass about things that they don't really know anything about and are so ridiculous about never ever giving anything the benefit of the doubt especially when it comes to reboots/remakes simply because it's different from the version they know. The Michael Bay thing is completely irrelevant because it ultimately wouldn't matter who was doing a new TMNT movie, people would still complain and throw a fit. "Oh god Michael Bay is going to ruin TMNT with a crappy live action movie! Why can't he/someone do a good TMNT movie like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles lll?" - Perspective ;)

Its such a shame that no one ever mentions the Eastman and Laird comic book, you know, where the turtles started, before the shitty 80s cartoon. It was dark and violent and nothing since has done it justice.

Why do they look so creepy? And, please, companies, stop using "rise" and all variations. We get it. The Dark Knight Rises worked. Time to be a bit more creative.

TMNTonNick they eat Pizzaontheshow so one would assume

that would be in the game.

this is based off of the Nick TMNT franchise not the Michael Bay shit show... although activision will probably make one of those too...peace

Oh and they are MUTANTS! and fight some of the classic villains from both the 1980s show and the 2003-2007 show...

Sorry but people totally have the right to be disappointed that a hack like Michael Bay is going to do a shitty job with a property they care about. Alien Turtles is incredibly stupid and if someone voices that opinion why do you care? Losing your shit about new terrible versions of things you like is dumb yeah but that doesn't mean you have to go "hey man I'm not the target audience therefor I'm not allowed to have an opinion!" Telling someone they aren't allowed to say what they think about it is as dumb as telling someone they're not allowed to like the new thing even if you think it's inferior.

Also Batman Animated Series is miles better then the majority of the stuff kids watch now. Has nothing to do with nostalgia.

Gross

@blazehedgehog said:

Those character designs are WAY bad.

It's like they got the artists for South Park to try to draw the turtles from the live action movies and tried to make em 3D. Sheesh they look horrible! I almost expect Leonardo to just 'LEO' the entire time like Timmy.

The designs for the new cartoon are ace. Why on earth do they look this way?

I think your avatar is the perfect response to those Turtles. Would have never thought how much Ninja Turtles having nostrils would FREAK ME OUT.

The difference is that the youths of tomorrow have far better cartoons than we ever had, even if those shows are re-hashes. We all have nostalgia or rose tinted glasses when it comes to those cartoons of the 80s, but the truth is they weren't very good, they just entertained us.

Although now any time someone does something different with an old franchise people throw a shit fit over nothing. "Awe this new Michael Bay TMNT is gonna be horrible!" well so the fuck what? Why do you care so much? Shitty movies come out all the time and you don't give them the time of day. Basically what it boils down to is that alot of people get upset because the next generation or a different audience isn't going to experience the thing/version that they know. That's all it is, and has ever been. It's this selfish desire for the rest of world to know "my version of the turtles" because that's it's my version and therefore the best version.

"People are going to know the wrong version, and think this, this, and that." but again, so what? It ultimately doesn't matter. It doesn't have anything to do with you. If people think/believe X about Spider-Man because it's something from the movies (and not the comics) then let them, it's fine. You're going to find a hard time getting through life if those type of things get to you, especially since they are just going to keep happening more and more as time goes on.

The Turtles could look better.

Yeah I was just going to say "as long as they're mutants and not aliens".

I'm Shocked that this isn't a tie in with the Nick cartoon - which is a fantastic show, by the way - and while I'm not married to the animated art style nor am I opposed to some realistic mutant turtles, the faces in this game look pretty lousy.

Hope that the game turns out okay.

Wow, that voice at the end was terrible/unnecessary.

All's I know is that they need to call Wilford Brimley about those calves and forearms. That is some dire, dire beetus.

Yeah but literally nothing is known about the movie. They haven't even begun shooting, the script is still in re-writes, and it's not due out until 2014 at the earliest.

As long as they're actually enjoyable, I have no problem with this. I remember the 2005 cartoon being pretty okay for a while, too - until Peter Laird left the project, anyway, then it all tanked pretty hard.

Looks like shit, could've been really good though.

Holy crap, I feel five years old again! Thank you.

I know, right? Mutations generally have cute and appealing effects on reptiles, right?

I was not expecting it to look like this. I thought it would be based off the new cartoon. I like these realistic creepy designs though. Let's just hope the game is good.

This isn't a full price retail game so at least that's something.

@blazehedgehog: The new show is amazing, a perfect blend of humor and cool ninja stuff that kids will go nuts for. Why this game seems to use none of that is beyond me.

There's a movie coming out.

Enjoy the reheated leftovers of our wasted childhoods, youths of tomorrow!