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Edited by Max_Cherry

First!

Also, another Cait Sith! Awesome!

Edited by The_Big_Rough

What the hell is going on in this game

Posted by Lite951

My girlfriend can't wait to play this.

Posted by KingCrimson4life

I wish I could alter time to space back to when Square made decent and relevant games.

Posted by North6

I'm really glad they felt the need to label the fight segments that take away any sense of immersion as "Cinematic Action". Thats fantastic, Japan. I wouldn't want to be confused as to when I should be enthralled.

Posted by TrafalgarLaw

Can't wait to try out the time puzzles...goodbye linearity, you can solve even them by going in different directions!! GOTY 2012 confirmed

Posted by TheKing

Oh Final Fantasy, what have they done to you?

Posted by gesi1223

ever since I saw trailers of FF13, I still can't tell what's going on this game.

Posted by paulwade1984

They love this battle system dont they.

Shame nobody else does. It really is a load of bollocks. There is no strategy. ravagers to stagger, then commando. repeat for every enemy ad infinitum.

Cant polish a turd squenix.

Posted by nohthink

If they are making a trailer for the demo, that kinda tells me "we are desperate."

Posted by Clinkz

Going to download this and see how it goes.

Posted by X19

What is that shopkeeper wearing XD

Posted by endaround

@TrafalgarLaw said:

Can't wait to try out the time puzzles...goodbye linearity, you can solve even them by going in different directions!! GOTY 2012 confirmed

Did you see the shopkeeper? It has shops! Square does it again!

Posted by InfiniteGeass

I'll be honest. I think I'll enjoy this more than I enjoyed Skyrim.

Posted by Phatmac

Man, I could not give less of a fuck about this game.

Posted by Coafi

Wait... a trailer for the demo?! What the hell? SquareEnix what's wrong with you?!

Edited by scraz

Rent

Rented 13 and it was back at Gamefly within a week.The pedo vibe from the sarah stuff largely ruined the game for me.Why anyone wants to double down on ff13 is baffling to me,

Posted by AngelN7

I call Bullshit on that ESRB rating there's no drug reference on Final Fantasy come on!, also why would you sell a Phoenix down? ... and yes I was slighty bother by that.... seriously that would be like selling a soma on Persona ... *rable rable*

Posted by teekomeeko

Ah, now I remember what I was going to ignore schoolwork for today. Really looking forward to this game - more or less looks to fix everything bad about FFXIII (strict, insane linearity and half-good-half-fuck-off cast) while keeping the good (interesting world / lore, gorgeous visuals, and solid combat).

Posted by Zelyre

HHNNNGH!

UNNNGH!

UAAAH!

HNNGRH!

PUU PUU! Pu pu pu PUUU!

It's probably not a good thing when the only character that had lines of dialogue that didn't make me roll my eyes was wearing a chocobo-styled bikini.

Somehow, they've managed to make the moogle more annoying than Mokona from Magic Knight Rayearth.

Which means I just admitted I used to watch Rayearth. Bah.

Posted by DonChipotle

@paulwade1984 said:

They love this battle system dont they.

Shame nobody else does. It really is a load of bollocks. There is no strategy. ravagers to stagger, then commando. repeat for every enemy ad infinitum.

Cant polish a turd squenix.

I like the battle system. So much for your claim!

Posted by Flappy

@DonChipotle said:

@paulwade1984 said:

They love this battle system dont they.

Shame nobody else does. It really is a load of bollocks. There is no strategy. ravagers to stagger, then commando. repeat for every enemy ad infinitum.

Cant polish a turd squenix.

I like the battle system. So much for your claim!

I share the same feelings at this fellow. If you ask me, it's an upgrade from the old ATB system used in earlier games.

Posted by ZenaxPure
@paulwade1984 said:

They love this battle system dont they.

Shame nobody else does. It really is a load of bollocks. There is no strategy. ravagers to stagger, then commando. repeat for every enemy ad infinitum.

Cant polish a turd squenix.

Good thing there was more to it than that! 
 
Can't wait to play the demo later tonight, I've heard good things so far about it.
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Posted by dyong

Have a fantabulous day!

NOEL IS A GIRL'S NAME DAMMMIT

Posted by Nux

I don't know why but for some reason I kept thinking that this game was DLC.

Posted by Humanity

Tons better! They managed to make a turn based system actually exciting to play.

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Posted by ZenaxPure
@dyong said:

Have a fantabulous day!

NOEL IS A GIRL'S NAME DAMMMIT

It's pronounced Nole, though, that works for me. Sounds more masculine than feminine.
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Posted by RXSideEffect

Got through half of XIII and asked myself why these are being made instead of remaking Xenogears...I know ittle never happen....but a man can dream....

Posted by SomeJerk

That shopkeeper.. hey lady, shut up and let me shop..

Posted by chortleofearl

for some reason, i can't wait.

Posted by Mechanized

Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwn

Posted by Demoskinos

I'm absolutely thrilled. They made so many smart changes! The demo was so fantastic that I shut it off so I could save it for the retail release.

Posted by spazmaster666

After playing this demo, I definitely feel there is more depth to this game than FFXIII while still having a similar feel. I really can't wait until Jan 31st.

Posted by LiquidPrince

Amazing.

Edited by Konanda

They really changed a lot with this game from FFXIII, plenty of interesting tweaks and just straight up new features and for people's complaints about how linear the areas in XIII were until Gran Pulse they have added plenty of branching paths and nooks and cranies in this game going by the demo and that previous trailer.

@paulwade1984 said:

They love this battle system dont they.

Shame nobody else does. It really is a load of bollocks. There is no strategy. ravagers to stagger, then commando. repeat for every enemy ad infinitum.

Cant polish a turd squenix.

There is more to it than that. Also among the numerous other changes they changed the health bar in this to something like out of a fighting game. Specifically that sometimes an enemy will wound a character in battle which causes their max HP for the fight (at least until they die and are revived) to decrease so if you are careless and just mashing your way through the character's will get worn down and be unable to fully recover adding greater urgency to the fight along with more incentive of getting 5/5 (ie. winning the battle quickly) by giving a larger chance for better drops/loot for finishing the battle so efficiently.

Posted by Commisar123

Now I need to finish XIII so I can know how this makes any sense

Posted by Otrebor

@dyong: Santa Claus disagrees and you dont fuck with santa

Posted by MeatSim

Gave the demo a try and yup I want nothing to do with this game.

Posted by xyzygy

@Demoskinos said:

I'm absolutely thrilled. They made so many smart changes! The demo was so fantastic that I shut it off so I could save it for the retail release.

I did the exact same thing.

Posted by NathHaw

I should play that demo, but I don't want to spoil too much about the game.

Posted by Zatoishwan

Its interesting and also a bit baffling to see all the FF hate around the net.

Well its OK, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

My very first contact with FF the FF franchise was in fact FF13 and I really liked it.

Yeah, maybe if I had played that magic FF 7 back in the days, maybe I would be hating FF13 too.

But as it is now I preordered FF13-2 and probably will have a good time with it.

Posted by kozmo7

@KingCrimson4life said:

I wish I could alter time to space back to when Square made decent and relevant games.

I wish I could get all the hours back that I spent in FF13 myself. I severely disliked FF13's wold, writing and narrative direction. Perhaps I've grown out of JRPGs entirely or perhaps FF13's fiction is just another stale entry within an aged genre. I am not sure.

Posted by Vexxan

What's the deal with the shopkeeper?!

Posted by samface6

I don't understand the unbridled fury towards modern Final Fantasy, XIII was far from a bad game.

XII was one of my favourites in the series.

It's just unfounded cynicism, and everyone jumps on the bandwagon because it's now the popular opinion.

I will personally be picking this game up.

Posted by Dark_Lord_Spam
@KingCrimson4life said:

I wish I could alter time to space back to when Square made decent and relevant games.

BOOM
Posted by Demoskinos

@Konanda said:

They really changed a lot with this game from FFXIII, plenty of interesting tweaks and just straight up new features and for people's complaints about how linear the areas in XIII were until Gran Pulse they have added plenty of branching paths and nooks and cranies in this game going by the demo and that previous trailer.

@paulwade1984 said:

They love this battle system dont they.

Shame nobody else does. It really is a load of bollocks. There is no strategy. ravagers to stagger, then commando. repeat for every enemy ad infinitum.

Cant polish a turd squenix.

There is more to it than that. Also among the numerous other changes they changed the health bar in this to something like out of a fighting game. Specifically that sometimes an enemy will wound a character in battle which causes their max HP for the fight (at least until they die and are revived) to decrease so if you are careless and just mashing your way through the character's will get worn down and be unable to fully recover adding greater urgency to the fight along with more incentive of getting 5/5 (ie. winning the battle quickly) by giving a larger chance for better drops/loot for finishing the battle so efficiently.

Indeed. Just because you aren't directly controlling all characters doesn't mean there isn't strategy. Yeah, for your standard fodder enemies you usually do RAVx3 then switch to COMx3 to power through them but as you said there are easily some enemy types that can really mess you up (even in the demo) if you aren't active enough in the decisions you make.

Edited by aceofspudz

@kozmo7 said:

@KingCrimson4life said:

I wish I could alter time to space back to when Square made decent and relevant games.

I wish I could get all the hours back that I spent in FF13 myself. I severely disliked FF13's wold, writing and narrative direction. Perhaps I've grown out of JRPGs entirely or perhaps FF13's fiction is just another stale entry within an aged genre. I am not sure.

I thought I'd grown out of JRPGs until I became basically riveted to the Chrono Trigger endurance run.

I think it isn't mere nostalgia. The JRPGs we're getting from Square (and other developers) simply aren't the equivalent of what we were getting in the mid 90s to early aughts.

Edited by Sooty

@aceofspudz said:

@kozmo7 said:

@KingCrimson4life said:

I wish I could alter time to space back to when Square made decent and relevant games.

I wish I could get all the hours back that I spent in FF13 myself. I severely disliked FF13's wold, writing and narrative direction. Perhaps I've grown out of JRPGs entirely or perhaps FF13's fiction is just another stale entry within an aged genre. I am not sure.

The JRPGs we're getting from Square (and other developers) simply aren't the equivalent of what we were getting in the mid 90s to early aughts.

Disagree. Atlus are still making quality games.

Posted by dagas

@Zatoishwan said:

Its interesting and also a bit baffling to see all the FF hate around the net.

Well its OK, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

My very first contact with FF the FF franchise was in fact FF13 and I really liked it.

Yeah, maybe if I had played that magic FF 7 back in the days, maybe I would be hating FF13 too.

But as it is now I preordered FF13-2 and probably will have a good time with it.

Yeah I think that your first FF-game is the game all others will be judged by. I started playing with FF7 and nothing since have been quite the same. If you started later than FF7 probably doesn't seem very special. I've played the older games on NES and SNES, but do not think they are even close to FF7. I'd imagine someone like you would feel the same way. Whenever FF18 comes out and it's nothing at all like FF13 you'll complain too I guess ^^

Last FF game I finished was FFX-2 last one I really liked was FFX, even though the changes were already severe from the PS1 games with no world map and such.

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@paulwade1984: The battle system from 13 really isn't all that terrible actually.. it just feels like square enix are desperately trying to get out of the RPG business.. and certainly as far away from anything resembling final fantasy as possible

@TheKing: I know right... Its barely recognizable anymore..

All that said, ff7, 8, 9 and 10 did something to me, Im not sure what, maybe a retrovirus, or some sort of gene therapy.. maybe mind control.. or post hypnotic suggestion.. but now I have to buy a ff game when it comes out.. and like a prostitute with daddy issues.. I often feel dirty and used by the end of it

Edit: Im currently downloading the demo.. its for you square soft.. for your memory

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