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Posted by Gravier251

wonder how it will look on male characters. Yay for hide helmet hehe :)

Posted by Tomkang

noooo :( eashfdkas

Posted by Henrikhoe

is giantbomb going to cover this, like they did with star trek? i sure hope so

Posted by Patman99

Ah man that music!

Posted by FoxMulder

They should re-make the KoToR games for modern consoles. I remember liking them a lot, but never finishing them because of the long load times and terrible frame rate. If not, I guess Mass Effect is pretty much that minus lightsabers!

Posted by SmilingPig

I burned out on WoW... and this looks a lot like it...

Posted by Maurdakar

Played this. Pretty good.

Posted by TaliciaDragonsong

Great game from what I played, Consular had some awesome looking moves.
Just not a fan of the IM HURLING SMALL STONES AT YOU WITH THE FORCE move.

Posted by GalacticPunt

The weekend beta test made me into a believer. It's the storytelling and voice acting that make this great. These trailers showing the cartoony, stilted combat still don't impress though.

Posted by Forum_User

@Henrikhoe said:

is giantbomb going to cover this, like they did with star trek? i sure hope so

It would be nice if they would give Guild Wars 2 like any attention at all at some point. Forget all of this Star Wars stuff. For long term impact on how people look at the genre, that's the game to look out for.

Posted by Vorbis

Anything but the rain of pebbles!

Posted by Aetheldod

@GalacticPunt: Yeah me too ... all I need to add is that non jedi/sith chaaracters play really good , had a blast with the bounty hunter and the republic soldier

Posted by Lotus

>sage

Posted by neazy

Does not look too bad for a MMO, but I dunno man.. I think I am through with MMOs after playing wow for a couple of years. Unless I see some real innovations in that genre, I'd rather stick to singleplayer games.

Posted by nbesnerson

I have no interest in this game whatsoever.

Posted by Rirse

No Steam, No Sale (not that I would buy a MMO anyway)

Posted by rmanthorp

SWTORISMYLIFENOW

FUCK THE KNICKS

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Posted by MildMolasses

@GalacticPunt said:

The weekend beta test made me into a believer. It's the storytelling and voice acting that make this great. These trailers showing the cartoony, stilted combat still don't impress though.

I was wondering about that. This is the first game footage I've seen, and it is not impressive. It's good to know that the other areas are well done

Posted by Anupsis

Those helmets make me want to cry. It just reinforced my decision to play a healing trooper.

Posted by BitterAlmond

@MildMolasses said:

@GalacticPunt said:

The weekend beta test made me into a believer. It's the storytelling and voice acting that make this great. These trailers showing the cartoony, stilted combat still don't impress though.

I was wondering about that. This is the first game footage I've seen, and it is not impressive. It's good to know that the other areas are well done

Yeah, the combat looks pretty janky and unsatisfying... Just like every other MMO out there. Should be good.

Posted by Bakumatsu

I was not so sure about this game but since I played the beta this weekend I'm somewhat convinced and really enjoyed it. The fact that you follow a main story (your class story) gives you purpose to go on and to find what happens next. Also the fact that all dialogues have voiceover is a great way to give you more insight about the universe and the fiction, instead of just accepting random quests without knowing what's going on.

Edited by Myomoto

@BitterAlmond: The combat is actually pretty quick and 'snappy', at least the lower level stuff I tried in the beta weekend.

Posted by PhantomGardener

@SmilingPig said:

I burned out on WoW... and this looks a lot like it...

But its not...

Edited by Forum_User

@Rirse said:

No Steam, No Sale (not that I would buy a MMO anyway)

There's really no particular difference in where you get a MMORPG from, save for the cost and any annoying store exclusives there might be. The fact that you haven't bought any is probably why you don't realize that. You're basically just buying an access code in most cases, especially if you're not getting discs. (Even discs quickly become irrelevant with most of them, as all of the data on them becomes outdated.)

Posted by HotSando

I wont even play this when it goes free to play 8 months after release. History will remember this game alongside DA:O2 and Mass Effect 3 as the first long expensive nails in the BioWare coffin. Just burn up all the remaning letterhead and rename it EA. Sigh. A once great canadian developer killed off by a once great canadian publisher. Its poetic in its sithlordlyness.

Posted by joshth

@HotSando said:

I wont even play this when it goes free to play 8 months after release. History will remember this game alongside DA:O2 and Mass Effect 3 as the first long expensive nails in the BioWare coffin. Just burn up all the remaning letterhead and rename it EA. Sigh. A once great canadian developer killed off by a once great canadian publisher. Its poetic in its sithlordlyness.

this seems awfully cynical. Yes DA 2 had problems and dissapointed many but it wasn't a bad game. Most people who have been playing this have been saying some really positive things about it. As for ME3, that game isn't even out yet, how can you judge it? EA doesn't seem to be having the greatest effect on Bioware, but that's is no reason to say that it's going to die.

Posted by SgtGrumbles

These trailers from what I've heard seem like the worst possible way to represent what this game is bringing to the table.

Edited by project343

@GalacticPunt said:

The weekend beta test made me into a believer. It's the storytelling and voice acting that make this great. These trailers showing the cartoony, stilted combat still don't impress though.

Next to the signature BioWare flourishes, the environments are the next most impressive aspect of the game. Each planet is so unique, each tunnel feels hand-crafted, and every area overwhelms you with scale. Not once in 30 hours did I feel like I was entering the same reused cave. Hell, each planet has several cantinas. I would have figured them to be copy and pasted. Not the case. I made it my goal to seek out every cantina and inspect them--each was remarkably unique.

First time I landed on Nar Shadda and Coruscant I was absolutely blown away. While it may not offer too many reasons to explore (codex entries, exploration XP, and holocrons), the desire to explore sort of comes naturally with how beautifully detailed and unique all their environments feel.

@Anupsis said:

Those helmets make me want to cry. It just reinforced my decision to play a healing trooper.

I got my healing trooper up to 20. And let me tell you, some of those trooper helmets look pretty damn dorky too.

Posted by Slaneesh

@PhantomGardener said:

@SmilingPig said:

I burned out on WoW... and this looks a lot like it...

But its not...

Have you played the Beta it is, but in a good way though. Feels like the next step

Posted by Forum_User

@HotSando said:

I wont even play this when it goes free to play 8 months after release. History will remember this game alongside DA:O2 and Mass Effect 3 as the first long expensive nails in the BioWare coffin. Just burn up all the remaning letterhead and rename it EA. Sigh. A once great canadian developer killed off by a once great canadian publisher. Its poetic in its sithlordlyness.

I reckon that next month I'll be too busy playing Firefall (which I strongly suspect is going to be a sleeper megahit, even though it's only recently caught my attention) to care what's going on with ToR (which never really impressed me), and in 8 months I'll be too busy playing Guild Wars 2, Diablo III, and Blizzard Dota to really care what MMOs go F2P at that point. This is going to be a hell of a year for online games, I think. Well, it's probably wishful thinking that all of that stuff will be out by then, but I hope that at least Guild Wars 2 is.

(The weird part of that list is that all of that stuff is either from Blizzard or from companies founded by former Blizzard dudes...)

Posted by IrishBrewed

Played the beta all weekend, actually playing it right now, an absolute RPG MMO master piece. The budget for this game was 500 million and it shows.

Posted by evophile

I'm still not sure what class I want to be in this game even though I preordered it.

Posted by upwarDBound

@HotSando said:

I wont even play this when it goes free to play 8 months after release. History will remember this game alongside DA:O2 and Mass Effect 3 as the first long expensive nails in the BioWare coffin. Just burn up all the remaning letterhead and rename it EA. Sigh. A once great canadian developer killed off by a once great canadian publisher. Its poetic in its sithlordlyness.

What's this once great Canadian publisher you're talking about?

Edited by gringbot

Been playing the beta all weekend. Even been playing as a Sage.

...its pretty damn amazing. just sayin'

Posted by Bedurndurn

@GalacticPunt said:

The weekend beta test made me into a believer. It's the storytelling and voice acting that make this great. These trailers showing the cartoony, stilted combat still don't impress though.

If it's an MMO, aren't you going to be doing a ton of cartoony, stilted combat per story beat?

Posted by frytup

I put around 20 hours into the beta this weekend. The early levels are great, with a really stunning amount of voiced content. However, staying power will depend on end-game content and PvP. Neither of which I had time to really get into.

Based on what I saw, I put in a preorder. If it turns out there isn't much left to see after level cap, I just won't continue paying for it. I'm pretty confident It'll be worth the initial $60 investment.

Posted by ptys

@HotSando said:

I wont even play this when it goes free to play 8 months after release. History will remember this game alongside DA:O2 and Mass Effect 3 as the first long expensive nails in the BioWare coffin. Just burn up all the remaning letterhead and rename it EA. Sigh. A once great canadian developer killed off by a once great canadian publisher. Its poetic in its sithlordlyness.

Think you're giving up prematurely, Mass Effect 3 looks awesome! Perhaps you never played ME2?

Posted by vinsanityv22

I hope The Force Unleashed 3 will have branching character paths, and better story elements period. I look at this stuff and I do not like the action going on - once upon a time I could blame it on genre, but with games like Dragon Nest and DCU Online out there, I don't think I could do it anymore. I want a Star Wars game with great action AND great story. So this just makes me think of TFU3.

Which I hope is an improvement over TFU2; I hope they find a way to include other characters on that ensemble in the stages - like Uncharted, or Prince of Persia. It would be better for storytelling and gameplay - Starkiller is Superman, but bring Juno or Proxy along for the ride and bad things can happen to them, and the whole dynamic changes. I bet TOR will bring up a bunch of great game dynamics, thanks to its focus on storytelling. It's going to do a bunch of things awesome. But combat does not look like it'll be one of them.

Posted by Stefan

loved kotor 1+2 but mmos just suck, seriously!

Posted by Deusx

@ptys said:

@HotSando said:

I wont even play this when it goes free to play 8 months after release. History will remember this game alongside DA:O2 and Mass Effect 3 as the first long expensive nails in the BioWare coffin. Just burn up all the remaning letterhead and rename it EA. Sigh. A once great canadian developer killed off by a once great canadian publisher. Its poetic in its sithlordlyness.

Think you're giving up prematurely, Mass Effect 3 looks awesome! Perhaps you never played ME2?

hmmm no it doesn't I mean yeah, he is thinking prematurely. Maybe Mass Effect 3 is going to be awesome and SWTOR is the best mmo ever... But I bet that's not going to happen. Everything they've said about ME3 has made me shed a tear. It sounds like it's going to be a dissapointment. At least for me.

Posted by Etaber

I don't know what they do to make these trailers but I swear the game does not look this bad. It's like they capture footage off of a 10 year old computer.

Posted by Veektarius

Is the in-game video sped up or something? It seems like all of this would look better if it were at like... .75 speed

Posted by beeftothetaco

A generic MMORPG. EXACTLY what is needed to boost the videogame market.

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Posted by ptys

@Deusx said:

@ptys said:

@HotSando said:

I wont even play this when it goes free to play 8 months after release. History will remember this game alongside DA:O2 and Mass Effect 3 as the first long expensive nails in the BioWare coffin. Just burn up all the remaning letterhead and rename it EA. Sigh. A once great canadian developer killed off by a once great canadian publisher. Its poetic in its sithlordlyness.

Think you're giving up prematurely, Mass Effect 3 looks awesome! Perhaps you never played ME2?

hmmm no it doesn't I mean yeah, he is thinking prematurely. Maybe Mass Effect 3 is going to be awesome and SWTOR is the best mmo ever... But I bet that's not going to happen. Everything they've said about ME3 has made me shed a tear. It sounds like it's going to be a dissapointment. At least for me.

I loved Mass Effect, but ME2 is a much better game, having played through it multiple times. ME3 looks like the action RPG myself and alot of people want it to be. Perhaps you just like traditional RPG's more? Doesn't mean something is bad just cause it does't suit your personal tastes.

Posted by bybeach

Heall ya Lady, kick the shit out of their Golden Triangle.

Edited by Forum_User

@beeftothetaco said:

A generic MMORPG. EXACTLY what is needed to boost the videogame market.

No way, man. It's got Jedis and Siths and lots of dialog. What more could you possibly want from the next generation of MMORPGs? All MMORPGs needed all along was to be more like single player games. The best thing would be if they could just remove the MM part of MMORPG entirely and still charge $15 a month for it. Those servers sure do cost a lot of money to run per player, you know!

Posted by Deusx

@ptys said:

@Deusx said:

@ptys said:

@HotSando said:

I wont even play this when it goes free to play 8 months after release. History will remember this game alongside DA:O2 and Mass Effect 3 as the first long expensive nails in the BioWare coffin. Just burn up all the remaning letterhead and rename it EA. Sigh. A once great canadian developer killed off by a once great canadian publisher. Its poetic in its sithlordlyness.

Think you're giving up prematurely, Mass Effect 3 looks awesome! Perhaps you never played ME2?

hmmm no it doesn't I mean yeah, he is thinking prematurely. Maybe Mass Effect 3 is going to be awesome and SWTOR is the best mmo ever... But I bet that's not going to happen. Everything they've said about ME3 has made me shed a tear. It sounds like it's going to be a dissapointment. At least for me.

I loved Mass Effect, but ME2 is a much better game, having played through it multiple times. ME3 looks like the action RPG myself and alot of people want it to be. Perhaps you just like traditional RPG's more? Doesn't mean something is bad just cause it does't suit your personal tastes.

I never said it was going to be bad, I said I think I'm going to be dissapointed. Bioware has a tendency to dumb down their mechanics sometimes for better, sometimes for worse. I strongly disagree with ME2 being a better game. I mean, from a design point it definitely is but from a storywise point of view it isn't. The story in ME2 was way unpredictable and simple. No thought provoking ideas, just Bioware trying to get to a much bigger audience. Not complaining though, I think the game is awesome. I just don't like how Bioware tend to make things too casual for my tastes. I like a bit more roleplaying in my roleplaying games. ME is starting to feel more and more like a 3rd person shooter.

Edited by Addfwyn

Despite all the hype for this, I've been pretty underwhelmed from the beta thus far. I'm willing to attribute that to having NOTHING invested in the star wars fiction, having not played a star wars game or seen one of the movies before. Still, I was hoping it could capture the non fans as well, sorta like how non-warcraft fans still like WoW.

Was kinda hoping this could be that sci-fi MMO, which is sorta lacking at the moment (Not counting Space Spreadsheets, and Fallen Earth isn't quite scifi as much as post-apocalyptic)

Edited by Forum_User

@Addfwyn said:

Despite all the hype for this, I've been pretty underwhelmed from the beta thus far. I'm willing to attribute that to having NOTHING invested in the star wars fiction, having not played a star wars game or seen one of the movies before. Still, I was hoping it could capture the non fans as well, sorta like how non-warcraft fans still like WoW.

Was kinda hoping this could be that sci-fi MMO, which is sorta lacking at the moment (Not counting Space Spreadsheets, and Fallen Earth isn't quite scifi as much as post-apocalyptic)

That Venn diagram of people who have a Kinect and are also way into the musical Grease (for those who watched the Grease Dance QL) is probably similar to that of people who are interested in trying western developed MMORPGs (let alone a Star Wars MMORPG) and have not seen a single Star Wars movie.

I'm sure you've heard this before, but if you ever watch them, watch the originals first. Don't start with Episode I or you'll probably just say, "Fuck it," and hardly anyone could blame you.

Anyway, Star Wars is, flavor-wise, more fantasy in flavor than science fiction, despite the high tech setting. I don't want to say "futuristic setting" since they are actually supposed to be set in the distant past, and unless Lucas pulls the retcon of the century, they have nothing to do with Earth or humanity as we know it. Don't think about it too hard. Yeah, it's kind of dumb.

Just to be clear, though, I'm not terribly interested in this game either. I've also never been as impressed with Bioware as other people seem to be. They do have good writers. I'll give them that. If only everything else in their games was half as good as the writing, they'd be phenomenal.

Posted by tobygw

That's some pretty sweet font.

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