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Posted by BatmanBatman

Green is the new... Red?

Posted by N0z

Looks amazing. Love luigi

Edited by Ruken

Are the levels actually new?

Posted by Geralt

You gotta be fuckin' kidding...differences?

Posted by joeshabadoo

Every single stage in the game has been completely redesigned. That means same world map, but all 86 or so stages are completely different, which includes castles and bosses. Amazing value from $20.

Posted by Matterless

bop bop

Edited by ross2075

Imma Luigi!

Seriously though, I wish I could buy a Nintendo product again, but they just seem so irrelevant it isn't worth me considering spending money.

Posted by shinofkod

Would have been all over a Wii U on day one if NSMBU had online play, but Nintendo is still acting like it's the 1990s.

Posted by Icaria

I think I'm having that moment with Nintendo that I had with Star Wars a few years back where I realised that I'm no longer the target audience.

Then again, maybe I'm just assuming this trailer is for 5 year olds and the truth is actually a lot more depressing.

Posted by ZmillA

Can't Nintendo give us something truly new even once?

Edited by GalacticPunt

Avoid the Nabbit. He ruins pizzas.

Edited by Abendlaender

@shinofkod said:

Would have been all over a Wii U on day one if NSMBU had online play, but Nintendo is still acting like it's the 1990s.

Online play? What is this sorcery you are speaking of?

I feel like they are turning Luigi into Tails, a character far more powerful than the "actual" protagonist and yet infinitely less popular...
Also I want to hear Iwata say "Nabbit" over and over again

Posted by TheManWithNoPlan

The Year of Luigi continues.

Edited by darkest4

Nintendo's idea of innovation is.. "he jumps further!" I'll never understand how Nintendo fans don't get tired of paying for the same few games over and over again with only slight differences and a title change. It's not like these games at least have unique stories in each new version, there's no real story to speak of, just different levels and 1 or 2 minor mechanic changes. Yea, on their own the games are pretty decent in terms of gameplay and what not.. but it gets old after a while. Whatever floats your boat I guess. Nintendo will be dead as a console developer soon if 3rd party developers continue to ditch them and they keep releases the same tired stuff over and over again.

Posted by NMC2008

No thanks Nintendo.

Posted by confideration

WOP WOP

wop WOP wop

Posted by pepperypoon

So it's like The Lost Levels

Edited by Nezza

The 100 second time limit seems a bit arbitrary.

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Edited by triviaman09

Can't tell if Nintendo is trying to be funny and self-aware in pointing out that the only differences between Luigi and Mario are slightly longer jumps and slides. I'm not sure if I care, either.

Posted by iAmJohn

It's amazing to me that people are really getting apoplectic and angry about "LAZY FUCKING NINTENDO, SO TYPICAL" over a $20 standalone expansion pack that's almost as long as the entirety of New Super Mario Bros. U, but that's the Internet for you I guess.

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Posted by Haziqonfire

The levels are all redesigned to be more challenging and use Luigi. For $20, it's actually pretty good value.

Posted by bonbolapti

@triviaman09: well, from a gameplay perspective it's a difference, for people that enjoy the platform genre. They look at that and see what they'll be able to pull off.

Edited by FastRedPonyCar

@zmilla: Seems like they're relying on 3rd party for that (ex: Wonderful 101) IMO, as long as they can maintain a steady stream of exclusive 3rd party titles that are of that same level of quality, I'm ok with Nintendo doing stuff like Windwaker HD, mario, new zelda, Smash, etc...

Posted by claybrez

is this canon?

Posted by madmidknight

Seems cool. I really liked NSMBU, best 2D Mario game since 'World' IMO.

Edited by Beb

I don't get the hate. Luigi is a tougher character to use on new tougher levels, and Nabbit is an easy mode character so that your kids can play along with you.

This game isn't for little kids - it's for everyone. Just like Little Big Planet or Viva Pinata.

Posted by Knives

@darkest4 said:

Nintendo's idea of innovation is.. "he jumps further!" I'll never understand how Nintendo fans don't get tired of paying for the same few games over and over again with only slight differences and a title change. It's not like these games at least have unique stories in each new version, there's no real story to speak of, just different levels and 1 or 2 minor mechanic changes. Yea, on their own the games are pretty decent in terms of gameplay and what not.. but it gets old after a while. Whatever floats your boat I guess. Nintendo will be dead as a console developer soon if 3rd party developers continue to ditch them and they keep releases the same tired stuff over and over again.

Don't be so cynical, and don't discount it just because it isn't for you.

Posted by handlas

I don't really get the love I'm seeing for this. Looking like the same game... same content even for the most part... being resold for 20 bucks. Maybe the value is in the "redesigned" levels.

Posted by Shaanyboi

@ruken said:

Are the levels actually new?

They've all been redesigned. World map is the same, but the actual levels are different.

Edited by KentonClay

@handlas said:

I don't really get the love I'm seeing for this. Looking like the same game... same content even for the most part... being resold for 20 bucks. Maybe the value is in the "redesigned" levels.

All the levels are new and tend to be shorter and harder than in the original game.

Think of it as an expansion pack.

Edited by Coketruck

@darkest4: I know, right? It's a good thing Infinity Ward/Treyarch stopped after CoD 4, because people never would have put up with another six Call of Duty first person shooters over the next six years. Also, good on Bungie, Sony and Epic for only making one or two Halo, God of War and Gears games. People get so tired of the same old stuff over and over with just a few new guns/abilities/characters, they never would have bought any more of that crap. Even worse, imagine if a company like EA put out a new NFL/NCAA/PGA/MLB game every year. The horror...

Seriously, it's $20 for an entirely new Mario game themed around shorter, more difficult levels and a harder-to-control character (and character control is a rather large part of a platformer, all things considered). It's a pretty dang good value, in my opinion, especially if you enjoy challenging gameplay.

Posted by JJOR64

@handlas said:

I don't really get the love I'm seeing for this. Looking like the same game... same content even for the most part... being resold for 20 bucks. Maybe the value is in the "redesigned" levels.

All the levels are new and tend to be shorter and harder than in the original game.

Think of it as an expansion pack.

This really. I played some of it and the only difference is the new levels. That is the main attraction for the DLC.

Posted by Paul_Tillich

Just about everyone in the games media talks about the great loyalty of the Nintendo fan base. But I never really had a great sense of what they meant until now. Holy shit, you people get pissed and defensive easily.

Posted by ArbitraryWater

For some reason, I'm way more ok with an expansion pack of challenging remix levels than I am with the basic game.

Edited by BBAlpert

Hang on a second, am I going crazy or does it say "Available Only in 2013" at the end of the trailer? As in, "once the year of Luigi ends, we're locking these levels away in the Disney vault, so buy it while you can"?

Someone please tell me that (and how) I'm misinterpreting that, because this seems really stupid.

Edited by Coketruck

@bbalpert said:

Hang on a second, am I going crazy or does it say "Available Only in 2013" at the end of the trailer? As in, "once the year of Luigi ends, we're locking these levels away in the Disney vault, so buy it while you can"?

Someone please tell me that (and how) I'm misinterpreting that, because this seems really stupid.

I think that refers to the boxed, disc based version they're releasing in July. They're treating that as a limited "special edition" thing, kind of like the Super Mario All-Stars and Metroid Prime Trilogy discs for the Wii.

Edited by freakin9

So if you don't own the original you have to buy the disc based version. Odd choice.

Edited by Duxa

Guy taking no damage is an awesome idea for playing with young kids! Now if only there was more reason to get a WiiU....

Posted by MasterQueef27

I don't understand all of the negativity. People are acting like this is supposed to be a brand new game. It's just DLC guys, and damn good DLC at that. They've redesigned every level in the game for crying out loud.

Edited by posh

fucking nabbit?? nintendo why the shit don't you put waluigi in any of your core games. he'd be a perfect fit for this. jesus fucking christ nintendo put waluigi in your fucking games

Edited by LoktarOgar

Between the "what's different" messaging and the logo, I can't tell if they're being self aware and know how ridiculous and, quite frankly, pathetic this is, or if they're completely serious. Knowing Nintendo, it's probably the latter.

Edited by Eribuster

It is an odd choice, but ti does make the box copy something special.

The new/redesigned levels look nuts. I like it! I first thought that $20 would be too much, but if there are 80+ levels then it seems a fair deal.

@paul_tillich: If it makes you feel better, there are plenty of Nintendo fans complaining and criticizing the company's every move. Just have to look for the right forums!

Posted by Marokai

@pepperypoon said:

So it's like The Lost Levels

I'm kind of surprised this analogy isn't being made more frequently, but yeah, totally. The idea of taking NSMB:U and making the levels more challenging and with different platforming physics is potentially cool, whether it's a "lazy cash in" or no.

Posted by Deusoma

@posh: At the very least, they could have made Waluigi the villain or something, given him something more than an appearance in a sports game.

Edited by pinner458

This kind of feels like Nintendo saying "Hey look this isn't just a re-hash of the 'New' franchise we swear".

Posted by Knives

Just about everyone in the games media talks about the great loyalty of the Nintendo fan base. But I never really had a great sense of what they meant until now. Holy shit, you people get pissed and defensive easily.

Can you blame them? Look at how many people took the time to come in here and shit on a perfectly competent game they'll never play.

Edited by DeF

Really Nintendo marketing people? "Further?" ... I would've expected better from you.

This kind of feels like Nintendo saying "Hey look this isn't just a re-hash of the 'New' franchise we swear".

? It's a trailer explaining the contents of this DLC pack its new features. That's all it does. It's an expansion pack for an existing game. What is the word "rehash" even doing here?

@ruken said:

Are the levels actually new?

So you didn't watch the video then? Or read the blurb in the wiki box right next to the comments? Both unmistakably say 80+ (82) completely new levels.

Posted by MeatSim

Let's just end this and have Mario and Luigi face off in a dunk contest.

Posted by lunchtime

So... The answer is a bit more flexibility (e.g., character characteristics) and slightly different play style? Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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