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War Has Apparently Changed

Activision and VICE have teamed up to remind you that war is all kinds of weird now. Maybe it always was. Anyway, this is supposed to set up the tone of the next Call of Duty game (as well as every other modern military shooter made over the last few years and Metal Gear and...).

May. 1 2014

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@dezztroy said:

@bwmcmaste said:

I like the intimation that mercenaries are somehow a new thing - as if the existence of voluntary national standing armies isn't a relatively new thing.

I think it's more to do with mercenaries becoming a thing again, after not having seen widespread use for over a hundred years. Accountability is also a big issue.

Not widespread use? I think you need to brush up on some of your history there dude. PMCs have been around for a LOOOONG time and have been used in pretty much every conflict in the 20th and 21st century. This applies specifically to the Cold War and conflicts after it. Simply put, the military cannot run without private contractors in some form. Just because you don't see it on the news doesn't mean it wasn't happening. It wasn't until Kosovo and later Iraq that the whole PMC thing really became widespread public knowledge because of bad press during the war, but its been going on for a long time before that.

As far as accountability goes - they got their orders and rules of engagement from their respective governments that hold their contracts. The idea that they are a bunch of cowboys running around answering to nobody is falsehood perpetrated by the (misinformed) media and hollywood movies. Sure, there have been individuals that have done nasty stuff, but all-in-all the majority of your mainstream of your PMCs are legit - and doing exactly what they were contracted to do.

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Well... I wasn't expecting this when I started the video. Guess we´re fucked.

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@hammondoftexas said:

IS THIS FROG FRACTIONS 2?!?!

You've been posting this in every video, haven't you?

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War never changes, Jeff. Private armies have always been around. The only difference is, like with everything else these days, the information age has given it more light to the public eye.

What was once seen as conspiracy theories are now today's current realities.

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@snail said:
@hammondoftexas said:

IS THIS FROG FRACTIONS 2?!?!

You've been posting this in every video, haven't you?

It's because we don't...... we don't know MAN!! WHAT IF!!!!!! That kickstarter money was for something right.... RIGHT?!?!

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@dezztroy said:

@bwmcmaste said:

I like the intimation that mercenaries are somehow a new thing - as if the existence of voluntary national standing armies isn't a relatively new thing.

I think it's more to do with mercenaries becoming a thing again, after not having seen widespread use for over a hundred years. Accountability is also a big issue.

Not widespread use? I think you need to brush up on some of your history there dude. PMCs have been around for a LOOOONG time and have been used in pretty much every conflict in the 20th and 21st century. This applies specifically to the Cold War and conflicts after it. Simply put, the military cannot run without private contractors in some form. Just because you don't see it on the news doesn't mean it wasn't happening. It wasn't until Kosovo and later Iraq that the whole PMC thing really became widespread public knowledge because of bad press during the war, but its been going on for a long time before that.

As far as accountability goes - they got their orders and rules of engagement from their respective governments that hold their contracts. The idea that they are a bunch of cowboys running around answering to nobody is falsehood perpetrated by the (misinformed) media and hollywood movies. Sure, there have been individuals that have done nasty stuff, but all-in-all the majority of your mainstream of your PMCs are legit - and doing exactly what they were contracted to do.

This, this, this. The idea that they answer to no one and just work for the highest bidder is completely absurd. They're contracted by Western governments, mainly the US. They're not working for African warlords. While there may be legitimate arguments against them, the hyperbole surrounding so-called PMCs is ridiculous.

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@stonyman65 said:

@dezztroy said:

@bwmcmaste said:

I like the intimation that mercenaries are somehow a new thing - as if the existence of voluntary national standing armies isn't a relatively new thing.

I think it's more to do with mercenaries becoming a thing again, after not having seen widespread use for over a hundred years. Accountability is also a big issue.

Not widespread use? I think you need to brush up on some of your history there dude. PMCs have been around for a LOOOONG time and have been used in pretty much every conflict in the 20th and 21st century. This applies specifically to the Cold War and conflicts after it. Simply put, the military cannot run without private contractors in some form. Just because you don't see it on the news doesn't mean it wasn't happening. It wasn't until Kosovo and later Iraq that the whole PMC thing really became widespread public knowledge because of bad press during the war, but its been going on for a long time before that.

As far as accountability goes - they got their orders and rules of engagement from their respective governments that hold their contracts. The idea that they are a bunch of cowboys running around answering to nobody is falsehood perpetrated by the (misinformed) media and hollywood movies. Sure, there have been individuals that have done nasty stuff, but all-in-all the majority of your mainstream of your PMCs are legit - and doing exactly what they were contracted to do.

This, this, this. The idea that they answer to no one and just work for the highest bidder is completely absurd. They're contracted by Western governments, mainly the US. They're not working for African warlords. While there may be legitimate arguments against them, the hyperbole surrounding so-called PMCs is ridiculous.

Ridiculous! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm6hC2oW5P8

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@itwastuesday: Are you kidding? VICE is practically the only place these days to get real news/documentaries on a vast array of extremely important and interesting topics. Go back to watching your Fox news or reading the NYT you douche. And VICE = racist? REALLY? You either haven't watched much of their content at all, or you have no idea what the term means. I have a feeling it's a mixture of both, in your case.

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@disemboweler: If you honestly think that VICE is "practically the only place these days to get real news/documentaries" you should really reconsider what you perceive to be real news. A small part of me thinks you are trolling because VICE stories are full of shock value and hyperbole, which seems to be what you are going with in your comment.

If not though, I would recommend getting your news from multiple sources with opposing viewpoints. :D

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Well, I learned something important from this video. Activision has way too much fucking money, and they can't spend it fast enough.

(Also, the irony of a massive publisher that profits hugely off of jingoistic military shooters producing a documentary about the evils of corporate influence in war is fucking hard to escape.)

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Interviewing and positively(?) highlighting Blackwater members is a quick way to get me to preemptively hate the fuck out of your video game.