War Has Apparently Changed

I'm down for a new Metal Gear.

Cute. But you're forgetting that every army in Machiavelli's time was supplemented with mercenaries. Armies have been bolstered by guns (or swords) for hire for millennia and even when they have actually been 100% recruited troops, they have still committed the same crimes against humanity that we see being committed by PMC troops in the media. War can and in most cases will drive a certain percentage of its combatants to do dreadful things to other human beings, regardless of who is getting a pay cheque.

Aw come on Vice.. i used to really like watching their stuff, but they've become a tad bit too sensationalist for my taste, this is yet another of these cases.

Can G4S actually be considered an PMC and not just mere rent-a-cops? Sure they are active in Israel, but most of their activity seems to be centered around cash handling. So the majority of those G4S people are probably not war hardened mercenaries with military backgrounds, but rather ex law enforcement and bouncer types.

Even with an budget of £284 million these guys failed to organize security for the Olympic Summer Games in London 2012, so i wouldn't hold my breath on these people taking over the world anytime soon..

METAL GEAR!

i understand that under the UN law you can't have a "mercenary organiziton" so just re brand it as Private security services contractor , Academi = Black water current name. ITS Same fucking thing "Mercenary of the 21 centuary" i don't understand why the UN or most governments still go by it. But i probably already know the answer the Elites in charge don't want it to change, and some bodies friends in the big business of it all is making money so I don't know. its a little glume but that just how this fukced up world works. I just hope its not just bland ass guided rail shooter like most of there games,but i am probably wrong its going to be same garbage they keep putting out because people enjoy it and keep buy the same bland crap with tiny iterations .

God dame sorry for the rant i just had to get that off my chest.

Rise of Flight dawg. it's dope.

This.
The whole "evil PMC solider without a country" bullshit is all hollywood. Sure, there have been individuals working for private companies that have done bad things, but the idea of a PMC taking things over and "working for the highest bidder" just doesn't happen in real life. First of all, the reputable companies (BlackWater back in the day, Triple Canopy, AMT, DynaCorp) wouldn't touch it because that would get them blacklisted by most governments out there and they would lose their contracts. As a rule PMCs are not allowed to be involved in open combat - most of those guys you saw running around Iraq and Afghanistan were on Personal Security Details (bodyguards, basically) for high-level government and military officials (because the military couldn't do their own Force Protection operations). Or they were, as you said, doing supply/logistics, admin, and training tasks to supplement the larger military force. Without contractors, the military simply wouldn't be able to function.

If you haven't, I suggest you watch the documentary "The Shadow Military" from the Military Channel. You can get it on Amazon instant video, and YouTube. I think it's like $1.99 for the episode.

Also, here is a video of Travis Haley (the sniper from the Najaf Blackwater video) talking about what happened that day. He's also featured on the Military Channel documentary I mentioned earlier.

@theterriblefamiliar: I don't normally do this, but...

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Well that didn't work. Fuck I hate giantbomb's forum tools

Bun bun bunnnnnnnn I don't care how many times or how differently they can say "We're revitalizing and revolutionizing the Call of Duty formula", it'll still just be the same boring nonsense it's been for the past few yearrrrrrrrs.

PMCs are such a MGS rip off. Kojima came up with the idea and then groups like Blackwater started popping up...how sad.

If Vice are in on this I'll buy it just to spite the haters.

eh whatever, I still love VICE.

Is this Frog Fractions 2?

OH NO WHAT IF WAR ISNT ACTUALLY GREAT AND COOL BUT ACTUALLY REALLY SHITTY AND FUCKED UP?!?!

ugh.

VICE and CoD. Those are the two things i used to like a lot but dont care about them anymore since certain point.

I dont know why, but I want to sock the guy narrating this video right in the throat.

No clue why.

You can't fool me Kojima.

I don't know whats more gross, vice, activision or the collaboration.

Well is this is kinda gross.

Call of duty: army of two confirmed.

This really is just MGS 4 isn't it? Holy shit did they just come across the E3 trailer from 2007 on youtube or something?

Uh, what the fuck? What does this mean for zombie mode?

Wait isn't this almost like the plot of MGSR?!

This seems about right for Call of Duty. They are so behind the times that when they were showing Ghosts at the Xbox reveal thing, the lead animator were talking about the awesome new features like mantling and leaning... in 2013.

G4S ... seriously?

LooooooooooooL

So did you people notice the Titanfall jumps in the trailer?

As everyone has said this is literally just the first act of MGS4

Maybe it's time to slow down the brand a bit if decade-old issues that have been explored by multiple (and more competent) sources are the most creative thing they can come up with for this series

This has been the focal point of the Metal Gear series literally since the first Metal Gear in the 80s.

But this video is pretty gross. Like, a bunch of fear-mongering over the existence of PMCs, and then turning around and going "NEW CALL OF DUTY! FUCK YEAH BUY OUR SHIT! We're also totally profiteering off of war btw but sssshhhh". It's really disingenuous.

I think it's more to do with mercenaries becoming a thing again, after not having seen widespread use for over a hundred years. Accountability is also a big issue.

I'm really excited not to play this game! Since I successfully didn't play Ghosts I've really been enjoying the Call of Duty franchise more than ever before.

What..the.... VICE loses cred... CoD never needed any, cause people don't play those games for realism... It's got the strategic depth of a toilet. VICE is all about getting the story and whatnot.. It's like a match made in a business meeting between people who have no fucking idea what they're selling or to whom...

Are there Advanced Warfighters in Advanced Warfare?

But what if your dad... stops taking orders?!

I hate seeing Vice do paid content like this.

Most Vice segments are better than this. Seems like the COD devs really wanted something 'shocking' to give their game a realistic vibe or something.

Nope, but given the apparently institutional incompetence and corruption at G4S you might want to get that alarm checked by a reputable company!

How G4S's bungled Olympics security contract unfolded

G4S repays UK government £108.9m after tagging scandal

G4S sacks pair who tagged offender's false leg

G4S probe after money van hatch left open in Norwich

South Africa G4S prison staff accused of abuse

Jimmy Mubenga: G4S guards face plane death charges

G4S told wrong family of Mohamoud Ali's Parc Prison death

I could go on and on all day here...

Yeah, sure that was pretty cut and paste from Metal Gear...then you watch what sort of game they made out of it...you see that Kevin Spacey trailer and you wonder how did they get that sort of insight and make GI Joe Rise of Cobra rip-off?

Activision you game looks like hot garbage. Ghosts was 10x the story this stuff is, and Ghost was stupid...what a damn waste.

This trailer should be flipped on itself when it asks "Who does war and why?" and the camera turned back at Activision. Call of Duty isn't a propanganda machine, but it sure help desensitize people to war and ultranationalism. Who goes to war? Not countries, not PMCs, but broken and brainwashed individuals called soldiers.

lold

RUN PMC. I really liked their stuff in the 80's!

I think it's safe to say Call of Duty has officially jumped the shark.

It's pretty funny how VICE acts like mercenaries are a new concept. People have been paying people to kill other people for kind of a long time.

Seems like he doesn't actually understand what the video was about, or what mercenaries are.

Nice try but it's still going to be the same as the last 8 games.

There have been quite a few fantastic WW1 flight sims, going back to Red Baron and Dawn Patrol. Very few FPS games though, and that's kinda the genre I want to take on the setting. Maybe a WW1 tank simulator could be something too.

....but what if McDonald's....stops taking orders?!

Vice is a disgusting cesspool of hyperbole and lies pretending to be actual journalism.

i like vice. they piss annoying people off, their ratio of interesting or funny to don't care is really good, they're down to earth, and they often do some really good journalism (see their stuff on the ukraine, for instance). this is funny because it pisses off annoying people, so i'm fine with it

Heard of them, G4S does home and business alarms in Denmark, so I'm not most people for a change.

Fingers crossed for some nanomachines. For not being a Treyarch game, I'm actually "looking forward" to seeing more of this COD.