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War Has Apparently Changed

Activision and VICE have teamed up to remind you that war is all kinds of weird now. Maybe it always was. Anyway, this is supposed to set up the tone of the next Call of Duty game (as well as every other modern military shooter made over the last few years and Metal Gear and...).

May. 1 2014

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And still people will buy it in droves.

Fuck me, but I just want one big goofy ass Timesplitters-esque shooter to turn everything on its head and make the FPS shooter genre relevant again beyond fun games like Borderlands 2 or Dead Island.

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The fuck did I just watch?

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@adrian79:

@adrian79 said:

Cant we just go back to WW2 already? I haven't shot any Nazi's for at least 3 years and im getting withdrawal shakes.

How about WW1 for once? I want to hand-drop small bombs from a shaky plane made from drift-wood and mothers table cloth to dump it on some poor horses head. Gas-masks & trenches. The first tank. Think about it.

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When will they make a shooter set in a crazy off the rails future. I'm thinking Back To The Future 2 crazy future here.

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@singingmenstrual: Sledgehammer Games could actually be changing things up, you don't know.

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@adrian79:

@adrian79 said:

Cant we just go back to WW2 already? I haven't shot any Nazi's for at least 3 years and im getting withdrawal shakes.

How about WW1 for once? I want to hand-drop small bombs from a shaky plane made from drift-wood and mothers table cloth to dump it on some poor horses head. Gas-masks & trenches. The first tank. Think about it.

Yup, I really want to see some WW1 games.

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War, war never changes

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Syndicate 2, ey?

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As a piece of advertising, that was pretty solid. But I don't know about treating it as anything more than another embellishment piece from Vice. For example, G4S is the third largest company by number of employees. They aren't even top 100 when it comes to something like revenue. And many of those employees are guys sitting at the front desks of office buildings or watching CCTV monitors in museums. Hardly the types to stage a coup. You might actually remember them as the company that lost the London Olympic security contract because they couldn't get their shit together.

On top of that, most "private military contractors" aren't the soldier of fortune types (man, remember that game?). They're guys and gals driving supply trucks, running the commissary,constructing buildings, doing administration and logistics. Again, not the types to be parachuting onto the White House in our not too distant dystopian future.

I'm certainly interested in where Sledghammer is going to take the CoD franchise. But man, I've really tired of Vice.

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Who hasn't heard of G4S?

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I feel like VICE is better than this, but if this sorta dumb shit lets them keep the doors open I won't be too upset.

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They're about six years late to the PMC party. :|

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Oh God.

*Sigh* turns of laptop and gives up breathing.

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Fascinating little clip, but what's my take away because gaming or pretending to play solider in a game is the last thing on my mind.

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This is deeply shocking...

Jeff posted a video!?!

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When I read the Title description...it didn't seem like it would have came from Patrick or Alex...Maybe Drew or Vinny? Then I looked..

IT WAS JEFF.

:3

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and here I thought this was a fallout 4 announcement trailer :(

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@tearhead said:

I saw the title and thought this was news on Fallout 4. = (

So did I ... bummer

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Damn it I read the title and thought Fallout 4.

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K really though.. remember when Vice was good? This is depressing.

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At the start, I was moderately interested in the concept of a Call of Duty game where it's not all "America bitches" and you instead work for a PMC.

But by the end of the video it seems readily apparent that it's going to just be MW2 but with PMCs instead of Russians. Right?

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I don't think any claim in that video is actually true, or at least doesn't have some significant nuances to be made.

But Vice isn't really in the business of nuanced reporting, so I don't really know what I expected.

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What about the stunning conclusion to the Black Ops trilogy?

WHAT ABOUT THE NUMBERS!?!

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VICE is wildly inconsistent, except this is the sort of thing they're usually much better about.

hmmmmrrrr

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"Hey guys these awful corporations who are hired to kill people (and sometimes civilians *cough* Blackwater *cough*) are huge and probably sinister as fuck! NOW GO PLAY CAPTURE THE FLAG AS A PMC! CALL OF DUTY! CATCH IT NOVEMBER 2014! FUCK YOU!"

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when they got to taking over part all hope was lost. I don't really know why i had any... but when they were going through all of the pmc stuff and how they work all over over the moral spectrum, I imagined a call of duty game where you would actually question the things you were doing while you were playing the game. Then, when they said that the PMC's could take over I knew they would just be the bad guys, and that is in know way interesting to me.

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This is literally the plot of Metal Gear :P

PMC stops taking orders and starts taking over :P

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Why is a video game marketing video trying to scare the fuck outta people? What is this? Why?

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I haven't bought a warshooter since COD4 but I kinda love how many hairs are pulled and tears shed by elitist g4m3rz everytime one of these come out.

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"What happens when they stop taking orders..."

AND START GETTINGREAL.

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...PMC!

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God, I hate the "shock style" to VICE's docs. Also, G4S installed the alarm at my parent's house. Should I be worried about my dad being a PMC?! That small segment about G4S was just laughable.

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I was hoping a Big Boss talking head would show up and talk about OUTER HEAVEN for a few seconds

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I like the intimation that mercenaries are somehow a new thing - as if the existence of voluntary national standing armies isn't a relatively new thing.

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Now I wanna see the Vice story for doing for this, or more importantly were they doing this story before Activision said hey we're also doing a game about this?

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@pondwhale: VICE has always whored themselves out for stuff like this. And as far as I can remember, VICE's docs have always been hit and miss with, in general, too big a focus on the VICE correspondent being IN THE MIDDLE OF IT! DON'T FORGET THAT THIS IS SOME DANGEROUS SHIT RIGHT HERE!!!!!! VICE does good work from time to time, but stuff like this makes it hard to take it seriously.

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@tearhead said:

I saw the title and thought this was news on Fallout 4. = (

Yeah! WTF Gerstmann?

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You get to play as the nanomachines this time

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A "new era" of the same gameplay.

Who am I kidding? I'm gonna play this anyways...

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Anyone who says that PMCs fighting wars is immoral should seriously question why they believe that a government military going to war and killing the government's enemies is somehow better?

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It seems very odd that they make it sound kind of bad and creepy... yet they are making a game about it which kind of seems like HELL YEAH! Weird.

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Vice, the people who brought you "a guy did something on drugs," and Activision, the company that brought you "shooting dudes," have come together for blahblahblahblah

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Anyone who says that PMCs fighting wars is immoral should seriously question why they believe that a government military going to war and killing the government's enemies is somehow better?

That's assuming those people actually believe that a national military going to war is somehow better.

It's like saying "anyone who thinks oranges are disgusting should seriously question why they think apples are superior."

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@clush said:

@sephirm87 said:

Anyone who says that PMCs fighting wars is immoral should seriously question why they believe that a government military going to war and killing the government's enemies is somehow better?

That's assuming those people actually believe that a national military going to war is somehow better.

It's like saying "anyone who thinks oranges are disgusting should seriously question why they think apples are superior."

The context of these statements is usually that PMCs are somehow bad BECAUSE they are private rather than governmental. I happen to think that the "military" part of PMCs make them bad, not the part where they are private.

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@clush said:

@sephirm87 said:

Anyone who says that PMCs fighting wars is immoral should seriously question why they believe that a government military going to war and killing the government's enemies is somehow better?

That's assuming those people actually believe that a national military going to war is somehow better.

It's like saying "anyone who thinks oranges are disgusting should seriously question why they think apples are superior."

Nicolo Machiavelli said it best in The Prince: a standing army is needed to defend one's kingdom, an army armed and accommodated by its ruler and so loyal to its ruler. Then, and only then, will a prince be safe from his enemies.

They say money is the root of all evil. Well, if you have enough of it, it can be the root of all peace.

(yes, I know the actual expression is "the love of money is the root of all evil", but it sounds better the other way)

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I didn't know that the company I work for is the 4th largest company in the world. Hmm I need a raise!!!

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@theirishcuisine:

I wonder how many times CoD can attack America before they take the hint that its lost all of its shock value.

I mean wasn't that big *GASP!* moment from all the way back in MW2?