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Edited by FourWude

FURST TWICE!!! In one day. Just like buses folks.

No idea what this game is about to be frank, but to keep this post relevant I'm just gonna throw some words out there for you. RPG, 1950's, Missions, Stats, Upgrades, Choices, Guns, Explosions, Dialogue, All you can eat!!!

Posted by boxoflawls

big fan of the originals.

Posted by LassieME

Wow! Actually interested now.

Posted by Nokterian

This is not Xcom...

Posted by mlarrabee

This is to X-COM what BioShock is to System Shock.

Posted by meaninoflife42

Spoony says:

Posted by nERVEcenter

The re-imagining of the world looks absolutely fascinating.

The game looks absolutely boring and derivative.

Posted by Delta_Ass

big fan of first person shooters.

Edited by CrabSlayerdefunct

I loved the original X-Coms, but this new re-imagining it looks.......ok.

I'll hold my opinion on the game until the final product comes out.

Posted by leejunfan83

fuck video games

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Posted by RichieJohn

Looks really interesting. It has a good look.

I have no opinion on the original so as far as I'm concerned this is a new IP.

Posted by LiquidSwords

First page and people are already bawing. Is this a record?

Edited by Packie

I absolutely love the aesthetics of this game. But judging from the 20-minutes gameplay video they've released a while ago, I'm disappointed in the gameplay. It looks nothing more than "Mass Effect in the 1960s", even downright to the abilities. I think it would've been far more interesting if it adapted a far more tactical, SWAT 4 type of gameplay where the death of your teammates is permanent and you have to carefully observe and study every situation before engaging in it. But that's just me.

Posted by actionTACO

ugh, this looks so boring.

"look over there.. what are the blobinoids doing to that town!?!"

"they seem to be transforming it into... my god... waist high walls!"

"those MONSTERS!"

Posted by LordLOC

I always love it when devs are excited about their product like these guys obviously are. Not to mention, the game genuinely looks interesting to me, though it is NOT X-Com per se. But that's alright I suppose.

Posted by prestonhedges

"That really holds true to the tenants of what made the original game so special."

Yes, by changing the gameplay, story, aesthetics, music, developers, enemies, and basically every single thing that made the original what it was. At least Fallout 3 had vaults and super mutants in it.

Posted by Insectecutor

Like the art style, sure it isn't xcom but that'd never sell these days, so whatever.

Posted by Lextalionis

This video has me super psyched for Xenonauts!

Also, why did they call this game XCOM? Was Tron Wars: The Invasioning already taken?

Posted by Dagbiker

Why are they even calling this xcom?

Posted by Lydian_Sel

@mlarrabee said:

This is to X-COM what BioShock is to System Shock.

I'm kinda diggin' that!

Played the first X-Com as a kid and even though it was pretty above me at the time there was something really cool about being able to build and customise your bases and equipment and generally research new things. It's good to see they're at least keeping some aspect of this in the new game, though if you took it out then what would connect it to its predecessors other than name alone?

If the gameplay is fun and the management systems aren't tedious or clunky I can see some enjoyment to be had out of this reboot.

Edited by Cornman89

My heart aches for 2K Marin. Thankless task after thankless task... That said, even as someone who never played the original XCOM, I'm not particularly interested in this game.

Posted by WSGEXE

@Insectecutor said:

Like the art style, sure it isn't xcom but that'd never sell these days, so whatever.

It's thinking like this that has given us this.

Posted by PhantomGardener

@meaninoflife42 said:

Spoony says:

Spoony needs to calm down.

Posted by LOZZAT

I like this, it's a shame to see so many video game conservatives who want the same product repeatedly. Do you think X-COM as it was would do well today? This actually looks interesting which is saying a lot.

Posted by lockwoodx

This should not be related to the PC XCOM in any way.

Posted by thatdutchguy

What is videogames ?

Posted by 234r2we232

This looks thoroughly interesting, and a good use of the fiction. If this isn't breathing new life into an old and stale series, I'm not sure what is :)

I get the impression they're having to hold back a lot of information due to spoilers and stuff. The premise they're offering here is fantastic, though.

Posted by Tennmuerti

Original X-com means a lot to us, so we made it into an FPS...

Suck a dick.

Posted by Gee_rad

From the 20-minute gameplay video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeVTqf0RHHc), it looks like yet another linear, highly scripted, chest-high wall-filled cover shooter. It also looks boring as hell. Good thing there's Xenonauts.

Posted by Veektarius

I feel like this game has been in development too long for what it is.

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Posted by prestonhedges

@WSGabler said:

@Insectecutor said:

Like the art style, sure it isn't xcom but that'd never sell these days, so whatever.

It's thinking like this that has given us this.

It used to be only accountants thought of the company's bottom line, but now gamers are like "But those genres don't sell! It would be crazy to try something different! Don't you care about their marketing division?" No, no I don't. I would rather have a great game no one buys than the same game over and over again.

Posted by EastboundSpider

oh sweet can't wait to take cover behind a wall and shoot a gun

Posted by Mercanis

Art style looks very pleasing. A little Bioshock. A little Team Fortress 2. Games could always use a little more Mad Men. Classy.

As for people who want an XCOM that follows the original's strategy roots, such genres simply don't have the audience to warrant AAA funding. That's what awesome indie devs are for: http://www.giantbomb.com/xenonauts/61-30865/

Posted by I_smell

Some parts of this game look cool, but as soon as I see that the aliens can take the form of humans, and shoot at me from behind cover...

@EastboundSpider said:

oh sweet can't wait to take cover behind a wall and shoot a gun

--yeah...

I think the big spinning cube things are awesome, and the living oil things are cool as hell, but I feel like there's a big chunk of this game that is Dark Void. And they're hoping I won't notice.

Edited by WSGEXE

Let this be a lesson. There are those who feel Diablo III should have been in first-person.

Posted by prestonhedges

@Mercanis said:

As for people who want an XCOM that follows the original's strategy roots, such genres simply don't have the audience to warrant AAA funding.

Then why does it have to be AAA?

Posted by Mercanis

@gladspooky said:

@Mercanis said:

As for people who want an XCOM that follows the original's strategy roots, such genres simply don't have the audience to warrant AAA funding.

Then why does it have to be AAA?

It's because a large publisher-developer owns the intellectual property. Like any business that answers to stock holders, 2K is going to use their available properties to earn as much profit as possible.

Posted by Jeffk38uk

Was wondering when they'd start showing more Xcom vids, so diary vids are a-ok. Still optimistic about this game, still like the setting and the base options despite the obvious "This isn't Xcom blargh" comments.

Posted by SatelliteOfLove

There's auteurs making games for themselves that don't sell, then there's this.

Posted by DefAde

As long as this proves to be a good 30-50 hour epic, i'm all for it... If it turns out to be a 6-10 hour snooze fest, it'll go on the 'ignore' list

Posted by prestonhedges

@Mercanis said:

@gladspooky said:

@Mercanis said:

As for people who want an XCOM that follows the original's strategy roots, such genres simply don't have the audience to warrant AAA funding.

Then why does it have to be AAA?

It's because a large publisher-developer owns the intellectual property. Like any business that answers to stock holders, 2K is going to use their available properties to earn as much profit as possible.

By making a derivative cover-based shooter with a name that's only going to anger a very specific section of their audience and interest no one else? And saying "Oh, money, that's why," is basically like saying "Yeah, they're pissing on X-COM's legacy so they can make a few dollars." It doesn't really engender one to their effort.

Posted by oneman_nohorse

@DefAde: Agree wholeheartedly. This better be lengthy and deeper then they can convey at the time or this is going to be shitty shit. Also NO multiplayer please.

Posted by Tennmuerti

@Mercanis said:

Art style looks very pleasing. A little Bioshock. A little Team Fortress 2. Games could always use a little more Mad Men. Classy.

As for people who want an XCOM that follows the original's strategy roots, such genres simply don't have the audience to warrant AAA funding. That's what awesome indie devs are for: http://www.giantbomb.com/xenonauts/61-30865/

Geanre doesn't sell well is a bullshit excuse for laziness. Just like the recently revealed Syndicate reboot. The Dawn of War 2 games are practically the same thing as the original Syndicate games, and those do very well for themselves despite being limited to a single platform even. Niche geanre games can be unapealing to some big companies true enough, but others realise that being in a niche has its advantages of minimal competition and solid guaranteed market. With some smarts a proper X-com can be made even today and still sell well.

Posted by snaptroll

"X-COM is a really beloved franchise and it's one that personally means a lot to me."

Okay... so why are you doing this to the franchise?

"We really wanted to make you feel what it was like to be one of the squaddies and not the all knowing commander"

But, commanding around disposable troops that would inevitably die a horrible death was what made X-COM great! Fools! I don't understand why developers keep reviving old franchises that only older generation gamers know anything about, and doing the best job they can to piss off those people. Why does this even have to be an X-COM game? I don't get it. What's the benefit?

Posted by Aarduil

I recently spoke with Julian Gollop, creator of the original X-Com. I asked him what he thinks about the upcoming X-Com game and sadly, his response was "It looks interesting, but not as an X-Com game."

Posted by snaptroll

@LOZZAT: No one is saying an X-COM reboot has to be exactly like the original. But why not improve on the original? It's just easy for developers to abandon the strategy genre because it's harder to make a strategy game will mass appeal. This trend sucks dick.

Posted by charlie_victor_bravo

"Xcom is going to tell the origin story of the organization."

Fuck you. In the original game it was a global effort that formed XCOM in order to defend earth from the invasion. Not some some 50's secret organization from USA. Also it was last minute scramble effort, that is why you don't have advanced alien technology at the start of the game, or base or crew.

Posted by KillyDarko

I for one really like where this is going, at least in theory.

Posted by Phonics

'XCOM developers answer the most important question: What is XCOM?'

I'm pretty sure none of the morons developing this game have an idea what people liked about xcom.

Posted by Insectecutor

@gladspooky said:

@WSGabler said:

@Insectecutor said:

Like the art style, sure it isn't xcom but that'd never sell these days, so whatever.

It's thinking like this that has given us this.

It used to be only accountants thought of the company's bottom line, but now gamers are like "But those genres don't sell! It would be crazy to try something different! Don't you care about their marketing division?" No, no I don't. I would rather have a great game no one buys than the same game over and over again.

It'd sell but not to the market they want to sell it to which is not you or any one of the maybe few hundred thousand super hard cores who actually played the original games back in the frontier days of PC gaming. Times have changed. If you want game mechanics like the original x-com, you need to look to the indie scene which will cater for that type of specialist interest.

Sucks that they're using the name, but it was probably the marketing team who thought of that idea. It creates a kind of discussion that puts it at the top of forums but doesn't put off people who never played the originals, which is most people.

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