Interesting. No more achievements?

This is awesome news since GFWL consistenly fucks everything up it touches.

"Interesting. No more achievements? "

Go steam.

long live our steam overlords. >.>

Awesome! Thanks for posting this Brad.

Microsoft should just end the whole damn thing, I mean their is no problem in trying to take on Steam and I have had no problems with it but when it seems to have no effort or drive behind it what the point in going on.

Nice! Steam is the best!

Just put GFWL out of its misery, it should have been taken out back and shot years ago.

Best news I've heard all day.

Wow. Screw points; if I have to choose between GFWL and Steam, it would be Steam without hesitation. Valve have proved much more competent at understanding what it takes to create a framework for delivering PC content than Microsoft has ever shown. I'd make the same move in their shoes. 

I suppose this is fantastic news for all the people who have had problems with GFWL, and I suppose it could also mean that they could include some decent anti-cheat stuff in the game.

Personally I haven't had any issues with GFWL so far, but it certainly hasn't added anything to any of the games I've played which use it, unlike Steamworks titles, especially those using the cloud and SteamPlay are just awesome.

So what happens if I already bought them off Steam, they get updated to the new Steam version?

Thank god for that.

While i like Steam, i've never had a problem with GFWL.

Dumb. I want real achievements. 

Great news, inviting people to games was such a hassle everytime, not to mention it's filling up my friendslist.
 
For those asking I believe the old games will basically become redundant, Retribution will include all races (including Chaos), the other 2 games will be in their own world and people will only play them for achievements and the campaigns.
 
Just hope my Last Stand characters transfer over.

Nope.  They're basically left to rot.  Buying Retribution will give you all existing content and the new stuff.  An unfortunate side effect of switching matchmaking providers but it's what the community has wanted for a while, and spending the extra $20 (Assuming that they're going to sell it full price, they may still be awesome and sell it at an expansion pricepoint) will be well worth it.

I'm a huge multiplayer fan though, I'd imagine if you're just in it for the singleplayer stuff you'll likely get Retribution anyway.  (In which case you're covered on the multiplayer front should you choose to play it)

I'm still confused, I mostly play Last Stand (fucking love it), so if some guy gets the expansion....are we playing Last Stand over GFWL or Steam? 
 
Also, iirc, aren't both the games stand alone?  So is this one working the same way?

" @KaosAngel:

Nope.  They're basically left to rot.  Buying Retribution will give you all existing content and the new stuff.  An unfortunate side effect of switching matchmaking providers but it's what the community has wanted for a while, and spending the extra $20 (Assuming that they're going to sell it full price, they may still be awesome and sell it at an expansion pricepoint) will be well worth it.

I'm a huge multiplayer fan though, I'd imagine if you're just in it for the singleplayer stuff you'll likely get Retribution anyway.  (In which case you're covered on the multiplayer front should you choose to play it)

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Still wish F1 2010 ditched GFWL, it's an awful service that should be got rid of.

On the one hand.. Sad to see Xbox achievements gone.. But on the other hand.. STEAM!

GFWL is getting steamrolled.... 
 
sorry that was awful....

Good on them for getting away from GFWL.  I absolutely can't stand that service.  I try to play a game and then the interface takes over and wants me to sign in, and if I don't I won't be able to save, and then it takes forever to navigate through it and I get all sorts of errors... BAH!

Steam has many benefits but are still gonna miss the live achievements and hope the matchmaking turns out ok.

Great news. Love Steam.

LAME

It won't split the userbase.  The DOW2/CR userbase will migrate over to RT.  There won't be a userbase for the base games within 3 months of RT coming out. Anyone who plays multiplayer actively will migrate over.

All I hope is that 6th race is the Tau.

Thank Christ.
 
The more developers say "fuck GFWL" the happier I will be.

Best idea ever. I can't stand GFWL

" While i like Steam, i've never had a problem with GFWL. "

" GFWL is getting steamrolled....  sorry that was awful.... "

GFWL should stop existing.

I hate GFWL. So fucking annoying.
 
This is a welcome change.

FUCKIN FINALLY

" I'm still confused, I mostly play Last Stand (fucking love it), so if some guy gets the expansion....are we playing Last Stand over GFWL or Steam?  Also, iirc, aren't both the games stand alone?  So is this one working the same way? "

Awesome, I'd rather take Steamworks over GFWL any day.

If this fixes the matchmaking from being complete and utter shit I’m loving the change, but I’m unsure as to how much the multiplayer is effected by GFWL.

That was my ONLY problem with DoW2. Completely fucked unbalanced matchmaking that always decided to pit me and my rag tag band of randomized newbies against a rank 50 arranged team playing on 10 year old Dells and hailing from Siberia that seemed to only have one way (my way) lag.

The mess of a multiplayer ruined my experience with that game and my perception of Relic.

I really really hope Gabeworks makes it all better.

 @Vorbis: Pretty sure you'll keep the chars as they are just swapping the way to find people to play with, as the game is p2p not hosted on a gfwl or steam server and with I'm pretty sure they will just be able to load all your old multi-player data into the new game

Wow, that means I can play multiplayer peacefully with no GFWL through this new expansion.

So how will the old games work with this one. Are they going to patch it out or split the userbase. Either way, it seems like a bitch. Also, good to get GFWL, since it slowed down the patching big time.