Watching The Watchmen: Hype and Review Watch Thread

#1 Posted by jakob187 (21663 posts) -

Watchmen is drawing closer and closer, as March 6th is LITERALLY two weeks away.  The question on the minds of graphic novel fans around the world is a doozy:


Will Watchmen live up to our standards?

Well, the reviews have it sitting RIGHT NOW, as of this posting, at an 86% Fresh over at Rottentomatoes.com.  A couple of quotes for you:

"It's the Watchmen movie you always wanted to see but never expected to get."  --Patrick Kolan, IGN Movies AU

"While necessarily filleting down the vast story to something palatable for human bladders, he (Snyder) is slavish to the original text."  --Ian Nathan, Empire Magazine

"A glorious, epic, exciting, mind-blowing piece of art."  --Devin Faraci, CHUD

On the other end of the spectrum, The News of the World (based in the UK) gave it a two-star review, basically stating that the average moviegoer will be dumbfounded and confused by everything that happens, and that comic book films trying to take themselves seriously (even comparing this to The Dark Knight in level of "maturity") is laughable and stupid.  That man, Robbie Collin, should be crucified.

Either way, I'll keep updating this with the Tomatometer info, but here's a couple of questions for you to answer before the release of the film:
  1. Have you read the graphic novel or any portion of it?  If so, when, why, and what do you expect out of the film?  Are you looking for a word-for-word translation of the text, or are you looking for something that captures the same aspect and tone of the graphic novel?
  2. If you have not read the graphic novel, why not?  This isn't meant as a question to pick on you in any way, but rather to see why you haven't decided to.  Are you not a fan of comic books?  Does the text seem intimidating to you?
  3. What do you think of the Hollywood hype machine going behind a movie that has been "in the making" for over two decades and was never given a chance...but then the studios saw the hype for the movie and jumped on the train?
  4. Who is your favorite character, and what do you think about the actor chosen to portray that character?  Do you think they will live up to what you are expecting?
  5. Are you disappointed by the change of the ending to the graphic novel for the movie?  Why?
  6. Last but not least, will you be picking up and/or watching Tales of the Black Freighter on DVD when it is released as a companion to the movie, or will you wait until the definitive DVD version is released with the Black Freighter cut back into the movie?
#2 Posted by EvilTwin (3324 posts) -

3.  Surprised.  I feel like a lot of people are going to go into this movie expecting a Justice League type super-hero film, and might end up disappointed because of it. 
4.  Rorschach.  Can't say, haven't seen any of his movies.  I know one scene off the top of my head that will make it or break it for me though. 
5.  Not familiar with this.  Guess I'll just have to wait and see.
6.  Probably both.

#3 Posted by jakob187 (21663 posts) -
EvilTwin said:
"4.  Rorschach.  Can't say, haven't seen any of his movies.  I know one scene off the top of my head that will make it or break it for me though."
Jackie Earle Haley is the dood playing Rorschach, and the man is a fucking excellent actor.  If you've never seen Little Children, then I would highly suggest checking it out.  It was a great movie (and yeah, Kate Winslet getting her brains fucked out doesn't hurt either).  It's a pretty disturbing film that seriously does not make you feel good about humanity or people in general.  As a matter of fact, there's not a single likable character in that whole movie.  Still a fantastic flick, though.  He is best known, however, for his role in The Bad News Bears (the original) as Kelly Leak:


EvilTwin said:
"3.  Surprised.  I feel like a lot of people are going to go into this movie expecting a Justice League type super-hero film, and might end up disappointed because of it."
I think this is the exact same sentiment I feel.  The movie is going to be a split flick with a split audience.  You'll have the graphic novel guys that will realize it's the closest thing they could ever end up getting to an actual film translation aside from the DVD that will add a lot more footage (supposedly).  Meanwhile, you'll have the other half who don't know squat going into the theatres and they'll say "WTF just happened".  So I'm kind of scared for the flick, but at the same time, I'm not so scared that it's going to keep me from seeing it.

I know I'm not going to see the flick opening night, because I don't wanna deal with the crowd nor the stupid MySpace kids toting in their cell phones and chattering bullshit the whole time.
#4 Posted by EvilTwin (3324 posts) -
jakob187 said:
"I know I'm not going to see the flick opening night, because I don't wanna deal with the crowd nor the stupid MySpace kids toting in their cell phones and chattering bullshit the whole time."
I cannot stand people who always have to have one eye on their damn cellphones.  I'll probably have to catch a matinee, though, since by then I'll be too excited to wait another day to see it.
#5 Posted by Hexpane (1397 posts) -

Yeah I gave up going to the movies, last time I was at the movies (dark knight) there were about 10 or so 5 year olds and under roaming around, crying, talking, and their ghetto/trailer trash parents talking to them, and talking on their phones the whole time.  IN addition to the 30+ teenagers also all talking to each other and having their phones ringing.

In the old days you could shush someone talking on the phone, now..90% of the audience is not even paying attention and all talking to each other.

God Bless BLU RAY/HDTVs because now there is really nothing the movie theaters offers that I can't get at home.  I can't shush 50+ people at once.

#6 Posted by jakob187 (21663 posts) -
Hexpane said:
"Yeah I gave up going to the movies, last time I was at the movies (dark knight) there were about 10 or so 5 year olds and under roaming around, crying, talking, and their ghetto/trailer trash parents talking to them, and talking on their phones the whole time.  IN addition to the 30+ teenagers also all talking to each other and having their phones ringing.

In the old days you could shush someone talking on the phone, now..90% of the audience is not even paying attention and all talking to each other.

God Bless BLU RAY/HDTVs because now there is really nothing the movie theaters offers that I can't get at home.  I can't shush 50+ people at once."
Opening nights for movies that are promoted heavily on MySpace are about the only time you get shit like that in my town.  Given the heavy promotion going on over at MySpace right now for Watchmen and Miss March, I know that they are definitely two flicks I won't be seeing opening night.  It kind of bums me out, especially since none of the theatres here are supposedly doing a midnight release of Watchmen!!!  BULLSHIT!!!  Then again, when some kid decides to stand up on top of a pickup truck and have his friends drive at 70mph through the parking lot after the midnight showing is over, then they hit the brakes suddenly and he flies off onto the parking lot and dies...I guess you just gotta hate the bad apples that spoil your fun.  =  /
#7 Posted by albedos_shadow (1485 posts) -

They're including The Black Freighter in the Director's Cut? You just saved me an extra Blu-Ray purchase, my friend.

#8 Posted by jakob187 (21663 posts) -
albedos_shadow said:
"They're including The Black Freighter in the Director's Cut? You just saved me an extra Blu-Ray purchase, my friend."
Yeah, there was an interview with Snyder and his wife a while back over at Collider.  Apparently, the DVD cut of the flick is going to be running about 4+ hours (with his wife actually urging him to add MORE into the movie and bring it up closer to a 5 hour flick).  Now, mind you, part of that time is Black Freighter being cut into the movie like it would be in the comics.  There's also to be extensive behind-the-scenes footage, as well as interviews with Snyder, the cast, and Dave Gibbons...as well as a retrospective on what the graphic novel means in the scope of literature history.

Basically, it's supposed to be a fucking epic DVD release.
#9 Posted by Peacemaker (1103 posts) -

I swear to god is anyone pulls out their phone during the moEvilTwin said:

"jakob187 said:
"I know I'm not going to see the flick opening night, because I don't wanna deal with the crowd nor the stupid MySpace kids toting in their cell phones and chattering bullshit the whole time."
I cannot stand people who always have to have one eye on their damn cellphones.  I'll probably have to catch a matinee, though, since by then I'll be too excited to wait another day to see it.
"
That's almost just as bad as talking on the phone.  I hate seeing the bright screen during the movie, very distracting.  Well the R rating should deter some younger people. And if they do talk, I'm going to tell them to be quiet, I'm sure a lot of people would be on my side.
#10 Posted by jakob187 (21663 posts) -

Well, the movie is now sitting on an 81%, so we're still getting good reviews incoming.  However, the two top critic reviews that are out right now from Hollywood Reporter and Variety are both rotten, saying basically that it never transports you to another world, Rorschach's narration is "third-rate", and that there's no room for the characters to breathe in the movie.


Soooo....I'm basically assuming that they haven't read the graphic novel...given that they slammed Rorschach's narration...and that they are seeing this movie from a non-fanboy perspective.

I'm still psyched for the movie, though.  = D
#11 Edited by HandsomeDead (11863 posts) -

From what i've read, fans of the graphic novel think it's great, everyone else thinks otherwise and that is perfectly fine for me. I wouldn't want a Snyder adaptation to be anything else.

#12 Posted by RichardLOlson (1852 posts) -
I can't wait to watch this movie....I'll be definitly be going to see this movie.  I like Rorschacs character and the Dr. too.
#13 Posted by Milkman (16637 posts) -

I was unbelievably excited for this movie before and I still am but one thing has really put a damper on my excitement for this. Anyone who read the comic knows that at the end of the first chapter there is a quote from Bob Dylan's song "Desolation Row". So, instead of putting this song in the movie, the creators of the film decided to the worst possible thing and have My Chemical Romance cover it for the movie. My Chemical fucking Romance. Could the filmmakers have chosen anyone worse than that? I'm fine with taking liberties for the sake of making it a movie but when liberties are taken for the sake of commercialism then I have a problem.

#14 Posted by HandsomeDead (11863 posts) -
Milkman said:
"I was unbelievably excited for this movie before and I still am but one thing has really put a damper on my excitement for this. Anyone who read the comic knows that at the end of the first chapter there is a quote from Bob Dylan's song "Desolation Row". So, instead of putting this song in the movie, the creators of the film decided to the worst possible thing and have My Chemical Romance cover it for the movie. My Chemical fucking Romance. Could the filmmakers have chosen anyone worse than that? I'm fine with taking liberties for the sake of making it a movie but when liberties are taken for the sake of commercialism then I have a problem.
"
Boo fucking hoo. While i'm not a fan of My Chemical Romance, I find Gerard Way a much better singer than Bob Dylan. While that guy could write some amazing stuff, his voice is terrible.
#15 Edited by Milkman (16637 posts) -
HandsomeDead said:
"Milkman said:
"I was unbelievably excited for this movie before and I still am but one thing has really put a damper on my excitement for this. Anyone who read the comic knows that at the end of the first chapter there is a quote from Bob Dylan's song "Desolation Row". So, instead of putting this song in the movie, the creators of the film decided to the worst possible thing and have My Chemical Romance cover it for the movie. My Chemical fucking Romance. Could the filmmakers have chosen anyone worse than that? I'm fine with taking liberties for the sake of making it a movie but when liberties are taken for the sake of commercialism then I have a problem.
"
Boo fucking hoo. While i'm not a fan of My Chemical Romance, I find Gerard Way a much better singer than Bob Dylan. While that guy could write some amazing stuff, his voice is terrible.
"
While I think that even thinking that Gerard Way is a better singer than Bob Dylan is ridiculous, I'll ignore it because that's really not the point. The line wasn't put in the comic because Alan Moore liked Bob Dylan's singing. The song was put there because of the lyrics. The song is suppose to be meaningful and thought-provoking. My Chemical Romance sucked all the intelligence out of the song and just made it another one of their shitty pop songs.
#16 Posted by HandsomeDead (11863 posts) -
Milkman said:
"HandsomeDead said:
"Milkman said:
"I was unbelievably excited for this movie before and I still am but one thing has really put a damper on my excitement for this. Anyone who read the comic knows that at the end of the first chapter there is a quote from Bob Dylan's song "Desolation Row". So, instead of putting this song in the movie, the creators of the film decided to the worst possible thing and have My Chemical Romance cover it for the movie. My Chemical fucking Romance. Could the filmmakers have chosen anyone worse than that? I'm fine with taking liberties for the sake of making it a movie but when liberties are taken for the sake of commercialism then I have a problem.
"
Boo fucking hoo. While i'm not a fan of My Chemical Romance, I find Gerard Way a much better singer than Bob Dylan. While that guy could write some amazing stuff, his voice is terrible.
"
While I think that even thinking that Gerard Way is a better singer than Bob Dylan is ridiculous, I'll ignore it because that's really not the point. The line wasn't put in the comic because Alan Moore liked Bob Dylan's singing. The song was put there because of the lyrics. The song is suppose to be meaningful and thought-provoking. My Chemical Romance sucked all the intelligence out of the song and just made it another one of their shitty pop songs.
"
Why is it ridiculous? Bob Dylan is up there with Tom Waits and Thom Yorke as a person who can't sing but because their voices capture a certain something which I will never understand, people thnk they're great. I've listened to both the Bob Dylan and MCR version and all I can tell is that MCR have done a cover which I think fits the tone of the film perfectly well and I must admit you come across as being utterly biased in this and looking upon it as a 'shitty pop song' as the band have mainstream popularity and are played on MTV so we all know that can't be good. Also, if they can change the ending, changing a song isn't that big a deal.
#17 Posted by Milkman (16637 posts) -
HandsomeDead said:
"Milkman said:
"HandsomeDead said:
"Milkman said:
"I was unbelievably excited for this movie before and I still am but one thing has really put a damper on my excitement for this. Anyone who read the comic knows that at the end of the first chapter there is a quote from Bob Dylan's song "Desolation Row". So, instead of putting this song in the movie, the creators of the film decided to the worst possible thing and have My Chemical Romance cover it for the movie. My Chemical fucking Romance. Could the filmmakers have chosen anyone worse than that? I'm fine with taking liberties for the sake of making it a movie but when liberties are taken for the sake of commercialism then I have a problem.
"
Boo fucking hoo. While i'm not a fan of My Chemical Romance, I find Gerard Way a much better singer than Bob Dylan. While that guy could write some amazing stuff, his voice is terrible.
"
While I think that even thinking that Gerard Way is a better singer than Bob Dylan is ridiculous, I'll ignore it because that's really not the point. The line wasn't put in the comic because Alan Moore liked Bob Dylan's singing. The song was put there because of the lyrics. The song is suppose to be meaningful and thought-provoking. My Chemical Romance sucked all the intelligence out of the song and just made it another one of their shitty pop songs.
"
Why is it ridiculous? Bob Dylan is up there with Tom Waits and Thom Yorke as a person who can't sing but because their voices capture a certain something which I will never understand, people thnk they're great. I've listened to both the Bob Dylan and MCR version and all I can tell is that MCR have done a cover which I think fits the tone of the film perfectly well and I must admit you come across as being utterly biased in this and looking upon it as a 'shitty pop song' as the band have mainstream popularity and are played on MTV so we all know that can't be good. Also, if they can change the ending, changing a song isn't that big a deal.
"
Bob Dylan is the greatest songwriter ever. That's why people love his music. He may not be the best singer but he didn't have to because his song were pure poetry. And Thom Yorke isn't a good singer? Really? REALLY?! Thom Yorke singing may not go through all this post-production bullshit that Gerard Way's voice goes through but there sure as hell doesn't mean he isn't a good singer.

Also, I'm going to assume you have never read Watchmen if you think that this song fits the tone of the story. Watchmen is about the degradation of society and the replacing of people with talent with the people who just want money. My Chemical Romance's cover is the exact opposite of what Watchmen is. When you take an 11 minute song and slim it down to 3 minutes, I think its pretty obvious that you're losing something from the original.
#18 Posted by jakob187 (21663 posts) -

Personally...I don't really give a shit who does the song.  At least it's there.  They could've very EASILY not put it in there.


If you want to know my one beef with the movie, it's that people are going to be too damn picky about the flick.  Realize that this is a 2 hour and 45 minute film...not a 200+ page graphic novel!!!  I am going into this movie KNOWING that not EVERYTHING will be there, and I'm fine with that.  As long as the tone, the general story, and as much as Snyder could put into it is there...then what the fuck ever.
#19 Posted by regularassmilk (1396 posts) -

Well, in my opinion, the third critic you listed just sounds like "that guy". You know, the one reviewer whom you could give the world to and he'd still be pissed.

#20 Posted by Lies (3866 posts) -
Milkman said:
"HandsomeDead said:
"Milkman said:
"HandsomeDead said:
"Milkman said:
"I was unbelievably excited for this movie before and I still am but one thing has really put a damper on my excitement for this. Anyone who read the comic knows that at the end of the first chapter there is a quote from Bob Dylan's song "Desolation Row". So, instead of putting this song in the movie, the creators of the film decided to the worst possible thing and have My Chemical Romance cover it for the movie. My Chemical fucking Romance. Could the filmmakers have chosen anyone worse than that? I'm fine with taking liberties for the sake of making it a movie but when liberties are taken for the sake of commercialism then I have a problem.
"
Boo fucking hoo. While i'm not a fan of My Chemical Romance, I find Gerard Way a much better singer than Bob Dylan. While that guy could write some amazing stuff, his voice is terrible.
"
While I think that even thinking that Gerard Way is a better singer than Bob Dylan is ridiculous, I'll ignore it because that's really not the point. The line wasn't put in the comic because Alan Moore liked Bob Dylan's singing. The song was put there because of the lyrics. The song is suppose to be meaningful and thought-provoking. My Chemical Romance sucked all the intelligence out of the song and just made it another one of their shitty pop songs.
"
Why is it ridiculous? Bob Dylan is up there with Tom Waits and Thom Yorke as a person who can't sing but because their voices capture a certain something which I will never understand, people thnk they're great. I've listened to both the Bob Dylan and MCR version and all I can tell is that MCR have done a cover which I think fits the tone of the film perfectly well and I must admit you come across as being utterly biased in this and looking upon it as a 'shitty pop song' as the band have mainstream popularity and are played on MTV so we all know that can't be good. Also, if they can change the ending, changing a song isn't that big a deal.
"
Bob Dylan is the greatest songwriter ever. That's why people love his music. He may not be the best singer but he didn't have to because his song were pure poetry. And Thom Yorke isn't a good singer? Really? REALLY?! Thom Yorke singing may not go through all this post-production bullshit that Gerard Way's voice goes through but there sure as hell doesn't mean he isn't a good singer.

Also, I'm going to assume you have never read Watchmen if you think that this song fits the tone of the story. Watchmen is about the degradation of society and the replacing of people with talent with the people who just want money. My Chemical Romance's cover is the exact opposite of what Watchmen is. When you take an 11 minute song and slim it down to 3 minutes, I think its pretty obvious that you're losing something from the original.
"
This is Handsome Dead. He likes Fallout Boy. I think we can safely disregard his opinions on music.

And really, the song is fairly irrelevant. It plays DURING THE CREDITS. Hightail it out if you're not interested. The only real connection Desolation Row has is that one lyric from it was quoted at the end of the first chapter anyways. It's an incredibly silly thing to fight about.
#21 Posted by Everyones_A_Critic (6296 posts) -

3. I don't really give two shits about the "average moviegoer's experience". Maybe if I was paid to make sure this thing is a blockbuster (it's obviously going to be #1 this weekend...) then maybe I'd care, but I just want to see if Snyder is faithful to the source material, and from the quotes you've given from RT, it looks like he's done just that.
4. The Comedian by far, no complaints about the casting choice either.
5. The ending of the graphic novel left me in awe in how ingenius and beatifully crafted it was, but I am open to an alternative ending if it works well, and some critics have been bold enough to say that it actually works better than the original ending.
6. That's a tough one. I'll want to get the definitive edition, but depending on how far apart the releases are, I might not be able to wait. I'd love to see the entire movie, uncut with Black Freighter and Under the Hood, in all of it's 4 hour glory though. 

#22 Posted by Milkman (16637 posts) -
Lies said:
"Milkman said:
"HandsomeDead said:
"Milkman said:
"HandsomeDead said:
"Milkman said:
"I was unbelievably excited for this movie before and I still am but one thing has really put a damper on my excitement for this. Anyone who read the comic knows that at the end of the first chapter there is a quote from Bob Dylan's song "Desolation Row". So, instead of putting this song in the movie, the creators of the film decided to the worst possible thing and have My Chemical Romance cover it for the movie. My Chemical fucking Romance. Could the filmmakers have chosen anyone worse than that? I'm fine with taking liberties for the sake of making it a movie but when liberties are taken for the sake of commercialism then I have a problem.
"
Boo fucking hoo. While i'm not a fan of My Chemical Romance, I find Gerard Way a much better singer than Bob Dylan. While that guy could write some amazing stuff, his voice is terrible.
"
While I think that even thinking that Gerard Way is a better singer than Bob Dylan is ridiculous, I'll ignore it because that's really not the point. The line wasn't put in the comic because Alan Moore liked Bob Dylan's singing. The song was put there because of the lyrics. The song is suppose to be meaningful and thought-provoking. My Chemical Romance sucked all the intelligence out of the song and just made it another one of their shitty pop songs.
"
Why is it ridiculous? Bob Dylan is up there with Tom Waits and Thom Yorke as a person who can't sing but because their voices capture a certain something which I will never understand, people thnk they're great. I've listened to both the Bob Dylan and MCR version and all I can tell is that MCR have done a cover which I think fits the tone of the film perfectly well and I must admit you come across as being utterly biased in this and looking upon it as a 'shitty pop song' as the band have mainstream popularity and are played on MTV so we all know that can't be good. Also, if they can change the ending, changing a song isn't that big a deal.
"
Bob Dylan is the greatest songwriter ever. That's why people love his music. He may not be the best singer but he didn't have to because his song were pure poetry. And Thom Yorke isn't a good singer? Really? REALLY?! Thom Yorke singing may not go through all this post-production bullshit that Gerard Way's voice goes through but there sure as hell doesn't mean he isn't a good singer.

Also, I'm going to assume you have never read Watchmen if you think that this song fits the tone of the story. Watchmen is about the degradation of society and the replacing of people with talent with the people who just want money. My Chemical Romance's cover is the exact opposite of what Watchmen is. When you take an 11 minute song and slim it down to 3 minutes, I think its pretty obvious that you're losing something from the original.
"
This is Handsome Dead. He likes Fallout Boy. I think we can safely disregard his opinions on music.

And really, the song is fairly irrelevant. It plays DURING THE CREDITS. Hightail it out if you're not interested. The only real connection Desolation Row has is that one lyric from it was quoted at the end of the first chapter anyways. It's an incredibly silly thing to fight about.
"
Well, I'm glad to know it will just be during the credits. That kinda lessens my problem with the song being in there.
#23 Posted by stillmotion (80 posts) -

I just finished the novel today. I must say that the end results was great, but the character build up felt excruciatingly long. The entire time I was worried about where it was going, that if I didn't know any better, would I actually finish it? Then when it finished, I was worried about the movie. Yes, the novel was good, but most of the time I felt lost. How could I feel "exposition" in a 2 and 1/2 hour movie when I had to search for a lot of the "hidden details" in the actual novel?


Reading a lot of the early reviews for the film, I realize that this extremely long character development may have perplex some—as it did me. That said, I would hate to predetermine my outcome of the film even before I've seen it (I did that with The Dark Knight, and it ruined everything). I just fear that this movie will let me down.
#24 Edited by jakob187 (21663 posts) -
Everyones_A_Critic said:
"3. I don't really give two shits about the "average moviegoer's experience". Maybe if I was paid to make sure this thing is a blockbuster (it's obviously going to be #1 this weekend...) then maybe I'd care, but I just want to see if Snyder is faithful to the source material, and from the quotes you've given from RT, it looks like he's done just that.
4. The Comedian by far, no complaints about the casting choice either.
5. The ending of the graphic novel left me in awe in how ingenius and beatifully crafted it was, but I am open to an alternative ending if it works well, and some critics have been bold enough to say that it actually works better than the original ending.
6. That's a tough one. I'll want to get the definitive edition, but depending on how far apart the releases are, I might not be able to wait. I'd love to see the entire movie, uncut with Black Freighter and Under the Hood, in all of it's 4 hour glory though. "
I have to say that ALL the casting choices for me are pretty interesting and unique...especially with Rorschach.  Jeffrey Dean Morgan as The Comedian is going to rock.  He's pretty damn good on Grey's Anatomy...I know that much.

As for the ending...I don't think people realize that the "ending" isn't different.  People keep talking about how it sucks for the squid to not be in the movie and that it's not the true ending...BUT IT'S NOT THE ENDING!!!  The ending is after that.  It's all in that moment, that last page or two...with the decision that needs to be made.  THAT is where the ending is.  The whole squid thing...that's whatever.  You can change that and it's not going to effect much other than some fanboys' puckered assholes over keeping everything word-for-word with the graphic novel.  As long as the TONE is captured, the MEANING and the REASON behind the decisions made...THAT is what matters.  I just wish people could get that into their thick ass skulls.

As awesome as a giant squid would be in the movie...I just think it would've made the movie far too ridiculous and hard to swallow.  To be honest, I'm GLAD that Snyder changed it.  So fuck the fanboys.  Accept it for what it is, or don't fucking watch it.  =  P

The Black Freighter, as far as I know, is coming out March 6th on DVD as well.  Don't quote me on that, as I'm too lazy to go look it up right now.  I've got about 40 customers to handle at the moment.  lol
#25 Posted by Milkman (16637 posts) -

Watchmen critic reviews are on a steady decline the past two days. Over that time period, Watchmen's score on Rotten Tomatoes has dropped from a 86% to a 73%. I'm starting to get a little worried.

#26 Posted by Breadfan (6589 posts) -
Milkman said:
"Watchmen critic reviews are on a steady decline the past two days. Over that time period, Watchmen's score on Rotten Tomatoes has dropped from a 86% to a 73%. I'm starting to get a little worried."
I just read a review that was in the latest issue of Newsweek and things do not look too good for Watchmen.
#27 Posted by Demyx (3237 posts) -

I'm still reading the novel, I don't really have much time for it though. I would like to finish it before I see the movie though.

#28 Posted by Lies (3866 posts) -

 Br3adfan said:

"Milkman said:
"Watchmen critic reviews are on a steady decline the past two days. Over that time period, Watchmen's score on Rotten Tomatoes has dropped from a 86% to a 73%. I'm starting to get a little worried."
I just read a review that was in the latest issue of Newsweek and things do not look too good for Watchmen."
14% Top Critics on Rotten Tomatoes
#29 Posted by EvilTwin (3324 posts) -
jakob187 said:
"As awesome as a giant squid would be in the movie...I just think it would've made the movie far too ridiculous and hard to swallow.  To be honest, I'm GLAD that Snyder changed it.  So fuck the fanboys.  Accept it for what it is, or don't fucking watch it.  =  P"
Well, I was going to wait until I saw the film, but now I have to know.  How did he change it? 
#30 Posted by Milkman (16637 posts) -
Lies said:
Br3adfan said:
"Milkman said:
"Watchmen critic reviews are on a steady decline the past two days. Over that time period, Watchmen's score on Rotten Tomatoes has dropped from a 86% to a 73%. I'm starting to get a little worried."
I just read a review that was in the latest issue of Newsweek and things do not look too good for Watchmen."
14% Top Critics on Rotten Tomatoes"
This is what we get for calling Zack Synder a visionary director. 
#31 Posted by Bulldog19892 (1795 posts) -

Fuck critics. The chances are, if you liked the comic, you'll like the movie. I know there have been plenty of mediocre to bad rated movies that I enjoyed, and I'm sure you all could name a few as well.

#32 Posted by EvilTwin (3324 posts) -

From Ryan Scott on his website http://www.geekbox.net/

"I just saw an early screening of Watchmen. To sum up: This is one of the best movies ever made. And I say that as a huge fan of the graphic novel."

That's pretty reassuring from the Ryan Scott, but some of the changes for the movie adaptation he posted kind of worry me.  You can go see a full list on his website if you want the full-on spoilers. 

#33 Posted by Milkman (16637 posts) -

Reviews continue to plummet. Watchmen is now at 65% on RT. It's on the edge of officially becoming "rotten".

#34 Posted by RHCPfan24 (8609 posts) -
Milkman said:
"This is what we get for calling Zack Synder a visionary director. "
I agree with ya. I saw that in the preview and was like "Of course. He stands besides Francis Ford Coppola and Stanley Kubrick, right?"
#35 Posted by HandsomeDead (11863 posts) -
RHCPfan24 said:
"Milkman said:
"This is what we get for calling Zack Synder a visionary director. "
I agree with ya. I saw that in the preview and was like "Of course. He stands besides Francis Ford Coppola and Stanley Kubrick, right?""
Well, no, as Zach's made a good film in the past 20 years. On a similar note, why is the visionary director label only given to directors who favour style over substance? Tim Burton and Guillermo Del Toro stand out as two visionary directors whose films all look the same and range from utter shit (Burton) to pretty good (Del Toro).
#36 Posted by suneku (2997 posts) -

I'm re-reading the graphic novel for the hell of it before the movie. Seriously can't wait to watch this.

#37 Posted by EvilTwin (3324 posts) -

Ebert's review is up.  Here.  Okay, now all those that matter have spoken.  Bring on Watchmen. 

#38 Posted by Otacon (2209 posts) -
EvilTwin said:
"Ebert's review is up.  Here.  Okay, now all those that matter have spoken.  Bring on Watchmen.  "
Right on. Jonathan Ross called it a film for the fans of the book too, thats enough for me. Can't wait.
#39 Posted by jakob187 (21663 posts) -

EBERT LIKED IT!  (surprise...and note sarcasm there).


The movie is down in the 60% range on Rotten Tomatoes right now, but from all the reviews I've read, it's mainly people that read the graphic novel that liked it...so the movie knows who its core audience is.  That's still good to hear.

I've got my tickets for the midnight showing!!!  Super psyched and ready for this shit!!!  I think this might be the second time I go to a theatre multiple times to see a movie!!!
#40 Posted by Endogene (4741 posts) -

It is premiering here in 4 hours, not sure if i want to go and see it since it wont be in English...

#41 Posted by jakob187 (21663 posts) -

*ugh*  I wish that me and Belly were doing Chess Club Massacre right now so we could give a review of the movie.  Then again, like any of you fuckers ever listened to it.  = P


Either way, apparently, the new Star Trek trailer is playing before the movie in regular theatres, and a new trailer for Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince is playing before it in IMAX.  Wish I was seeing it in IMAX...

...but I'm still curious what OTHER trailers are playing before it.  I hope they've got a big surprise in there, because Star Trek is NOT worth it.

Yes, that's right.  I DO care about the trailers, dammit!!!  As a movie buff, I wanna see it all...NOW!!!
#42 Posted by Otacon (2209 posts) -

hours away, trying not to get my hopes up too much.

#43 Posted by dtran1212 (299 posts) -

i checked Rotton Tomatoes and the movies is now like around 66%, to me, 66% isn't that too impressive. but i guess i'll go see the movie anyways and see for myself. i have never heard about the Watchmen till now, so im interested to see whats all the fuss is about.

#44 Posted by Otacon (2209 posts) -
dtran1212 said:
"i checked Rotton Tomatoes and the movies is now like around 66%, to me, 66% isn't that too impressive. but i guess i'll go see the movie anyways and see for myself. i have never heard about the Watchmen till now, so im interested to see whats all the fuss is about. "
I tend not to follow meters, the mesh of critics are all for different audiences so I just choose my favourite reviewers and listen to what they say.
#45 Posted by jakob187 (21663 posts) -
Otacon said:
"dtran1212 said:
"i checked Rotton Tomatoes and the movies is now like around 66%, to me, 66% isn't that too impressive. but i guess i'll go see the movie anyways and see for myself. i have never heard about the Watchmen till now, so im interested to see whats all the fuss is about. "
I tend not to follow meters, the mesh of critics are all for different audiences so I just choose my favourite reviewers and listen to what they say.
"
Well, the majority of the negative reviews are from people that sound like they haven't read the graphic novel, so they are going into the movie pretty blind.  From what I'm seeing, it's more of a movie for those who HAVE read the graphic novel and have been waiting for this movie to finally come out.  So...I'm taking the Tomatometer with a grain of salt on this one.

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