Is anyone else concerned about the WiiU not having analog sticks?

#1 Posted by FreakAche (2953 posts) -

At this point, I'm reasonably optimistic about the WiiU, but I can't help but think that the choice to include PSP/3DS/Vita-like nubs instead of actual joysticks will seriously inhibit the kinds of games this thing can play. I know Nintendo will probably make some great side scrollers in the vein of New Super Mario Bros that just use the D-Pad, but I'm kind of concerned about how ports from the other consoles will play, and even how the inevitable HD Zelda, Mario, Metroid, and Pikmin games will handle. Also, the button layout on the 360 and PS3 seem thoughtfully designed so that you can quickly switch back and forth between the buttons and the right joystick. That doesn't seem to be the case here, which makes me worried about how easy it will be to do something as simple as jumping in a first person shooter.

#2 Posted by SethPhotopoulos (5255 posts) -

Didn't the layouts for the controllers of past systems see plenty of revisions before they came out?  I can't remember because it's been so long.

#3 Posted by Gamer_152 (14077 posts) -

My bigger worry with the controller is whether it'll feel natural to be holding a tablet with both of your hands just grasped around two corners of it. As for the sticks, with the very brief time I've spent with the 3DS the slider feels pretty fluid on that thing but whether it'll work for full console games is a slightly different issue. I think before making my mind up on either of these I'll really need to hold one in my hands.

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#4 Posted by solarisdeschain (99 posts) -

Well, the people who've played it tend to compare the circle pads to the nunchuck analog sticks, I don't think it'll be a big problem. As far the right analog stick, I see what you're saying, but the stick is right overtop of the buttons. Easy solution: Y= jump.

#5 Posted by dagas (2831 posts) -

It seems to have what looks like analog sticks above the D-pad and face buttons.

#6 Posted by guiseppe (2840 posts) -

It's so they can release another one with analog sticks and charge you for it again.

#7 Posted by DrBendo (240 posts) -
But... But... There's a screen. And a camera. And bells, and whistles, and doo-dads! Who needs comfort and practical design when you have trinkets?
 
@Gamer_152
 
I believe there is a bar of sorts on the back that could help with stability.
#8 Posted by Redbullet685 (6044 posts) -

The thing that worries me more, is the fact that they have the analog nub above the buttons.

#9 Posted by FreakAche (2953 posts) -
@Redbullet685 said:
The thing that worries me more, is the fact that they have the analog nub above the buttons.
Yeah, I mentioned that in my post. That has me concerned, because it's going to make shooters hard to play. 
@dagas said:

It seems to have what looks like analog sticks above the D-pad and face buttons.

They don't look like full analog sticks to me. They look kind of like the circle pad on the 3DS. Admittedly though, I haven't tried a 3DS yet, so I don't entirely know if that's a good or a bad thing.
#10 Posted by Kjellm87 (1728 posts) -

Nah, I think it will be fine.

#11 Posted by TheGreatGuero (9130 posts) -

Wait, what? I was certain it did...

#12 Posted by Marz (5651 posts) -

I'm sure classic controller will be able to be plugged in, they are making everything backward compatible it seems. if you don't want to play your third party shooters with a big ass tablet.

#13 Posted by alternate (2702 posts) -
@guiseppe said:

It's so they can release another one with analog sticks and charge you for it again.

yup - I am almost certain they will release a "modern classic" controller for multi platform ports.  If they don't they know madcatz or someone will.
#14 Posted by Bollard (5530 posts) -
@dagas said:

It seems to have what looks like analog sticks above the D-pad and face buttons.

@TheGreatGuero said:
Wait, what? I was certain it did...
He means the fact they are PSP style "Slide Pads" and not traditional sticks. 
 
And in response to the OP, no, I don't think it will be a problem. The 3DS's Circle Pad is easily as competent as any Analogue Stick. Heck, I prefer it to Sony's sticks any day >.>
#15 Posted by mikey87144 (1772 posts) -

I'm skeptical about the controls. It's why the Wii isn't a good for hardcore games. Also how much is the controller going to cost and will it come with rechargeable batteries.

#16 Posted by TheGreatGuero (9130 posts) -
@Chavtheworld: Well, I've never played with those kind of "nubs", so I don't know how well they work. However, considering the shape of the controller, I just get the feeling that real analog sticks would make the thing harder to hold. I want to have a good grip on that thing at all times.
#17 Posted by solarisdeschain (99 posts) -
@mikey87144 said:

I'm skeptical about the controls. It's why the Wii isn't a good for hardcore games. Also how much is the controller going to cost and will it come with rechargeable batteries.

Word is it will indeed come with rechargeable batteries.
#18 Posted by Grumbel (910 posts) -

Hard to tell without having any first hands experience. The PSP style analog nub certainly sucks, but the 3DS is supposed to be much better (don't have first hand experience and nobody has in a dual-analog shooter) so no idea how the one on the WiiU will work. Given the size, price and target audience of the controller I doubt that they would butcher the analogsticks and replace them with something inferior when their isn't a good reason to (such as them not actually being inferior).  Analogsticks as they are now are nowhere near perfect and there are certainly ways to improve them, if the circle pad is a good way to do that, no idea. I personally would love to see a controller with an IBM TrackPoint for analogsticks.

#19 Posted by Hizang (8532 posts) -

You ARE the analog stick!

#20 Posted by FreakAche (2953 posts) -
#21 Posted by WinterSnowblind (7616 posts) -

@FreakAche said:

They don't look like full analog sticks to me. They look kind of like the circle pad on the 3DS. Admittedly though, I haven't tried a 3DS yet, so I don't entirely know if that's a good or a bad thing.

The 3DS circle pad is excellent, it feels very much like a proper analogue stick, nothing like that nasty PSP one.

I wouldn't worry about it.

#22 Posted by Beaudacious (928 posts) -

If you want to play shooters, play them on the current consoles. Don't buy a Wii U for shooters.

#23 Posted by Bollard (5530 posts) -
@TheGreatGuero: Ah, I'm a fan of the 3DS one at least, and the PSP wasn't bad. Also, personally I have no idea about how the controller feels but Jeff has already said its way nicer to use than it first appears.
#24 Posted by coolwhip83 (88 posts) -

I only held a 3DS for a short amount of time. It felt fine to me, but we'll see. I don't think it's the best choice with the whole 'getting the Modern Warfare kids interested' thing in mind though.

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