Nintendo Begrudgingly Acknowledges Wii U 3D Support

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#51 Posted by Heath (61 posts) -

Hardware level 1280x720 3D and 1920x1080 normal would be nice. But we still dont know if its going to be informed that games run at 1920x1080 native.. i hope they do that.. would be a great way to show off against the 360/PS3.... as long as the system has the power.. But considering the Controler is not even 720p... i would expect most games will not run at 1920x1080 mabye only the lower complexity nintendo titles.. while other games will run at 720p or lower specs even. :(

#52 Posted by SleepyDoughnut (1212 posts) -

@Luck3ySe7en said:

Ugh, nintendo. You have seriously lost me on this.

On which part? The part that they'll have 3D support? Or the part that they won't really be very big on the 3D support that they have?

#53 Edited by robbob88 (326 posts) -

3D will not take off until HD 3D TV's are glasses free and cheaper than it is now. People need to stop freaking out thinking that Nintendo not fully supporting 3D on its home console is a bad move. It isn't. It is smart. Not only that but 3D on the big screen hasn't proven to be all that popular either. 3D has always seemed to come and go.  
 
On the other hand, when it comes to Nintendo not supporting HD back in the day, now that was a big mistake because HD was naturally the next big step in TV technology. 3D isn't. It's a toy that may or may not catch on.
#54 Posted by Protonguy (305 posts) -

"If you are going to connect Wii U with a home TV capable of displaying 3-D images, technologically, yes, it is going to be possible, but that's not the area we are focusing on."

Guess i read this different to others. Yes they're saying it's technologically possible to connect it to a 3d tv. No where does it say the Wii U will do 3d images. 3d tv's also do 2d right.

#55 Posted by robbob88 (326 posts) -
@mnzy
I agree with you completely.
#56 Posted by MjHealy (1853 posts) -

Late 2012? 3D will hopefully begin it's painful death.

#57 Posted by BenderUnit22 (1497 posts) -

Wow. Maybe their next next console will be able to play DVD movies.

#58 Posted by dr_mantas (1887 posts) -

3D support? That's the last part that was missing from their master plan... PORTS OF 3DS GAMES. SERIOUSLY.

#59 Posted by S0ndor (2716 posts) -

Finally, a company with a realistic attitude towards 3D technology.

#60 Posted by Xpgamer7 (2382 posts) -

I think this is the first time I've heard about a publisher not touting one of a console's features.

#61 Edited by MrKlorox (11209 posts) -

What do you expect? The glasses based 3DTV technology of today isn't worth the investment and Nintendo knows this.

edit: lol @ the ignorance that 3D will be going away instead of getting better. Oh Internet.

#62 Edited by Bummey (608 posts) -

Death to 3D.

Now if only Nintendo would give up on motion controls and touch screens, we'd really be onto something. I don't want any of that shit anywhere near my games. ---- "Then don't buy them, dude" I don't now and won't in the future!

#63 Posted by wickedsc3 (1046 posts) -

Good choice on this one. They already have a 3d device, and by putting it in the wii u it leaves the option open if the market for the 3d on consoles ever takes off. But they probably wont use the 3d unless the market starts going that way.

#64 Posted by YukoAsho (2055 posts) -
@MrKlorox said:

What do you expect? The glasses based 3DTV technology of today isn't worth the investment and Nintendo knows this.

edit: lol @ the ignorance that 3D will be going away instead of getting better. Oh Internet.

People have been saying that 3D is the wave of the future for the better part of 50 years or so.  Not only that, there's no real way to make the experience the same for everyone.  A large number of people just can't see the effect, and it's maddening to see so much investment being thrown at something that only a select few can experience.
#65 Posted by MrKlorox (11209 posts) -

@YukoAsho said:

@MrKlorox said:

What do you expect? The glasses based 3DTV technology of today isn't worth the investment and Nintendo knows this.

edit: lol @ the ignorance that 3D will be going away instead of getting better. Oh Internet.

People have been saying that 3D is the wave of the future for the better part of 50 years or so. Not only that, there's no real way to make the experience the same for everyone. A large number of people just can't see the effect, and it's maddening to see so much investment being thrown at something that only a select few can experience.

Yes, the people who said 3D was the future were correct. That future just hasn't happened yet.

And it's a select few that cannot experience 3D, not vice versa. Most of the people in the world have two functioning eyes. Unless that changes, then some form of 3D technology (this includes holography, not just stereoscopy) will be the successor to the 2D screens we've been using forever.

Nobody's arguing that the $3000 TVs that require glasses or have a narrow viewing field are a good investment.

#66 Posted by Hailinel (24851 posts) -

Including 3D support isn't exactly like implementing HD support. One requires that you merely have an expensive TV. The other requires an even more expensive TV, special glasses, and a pair of eyes capable of viewing optical 3D illusions. Also, a willingness to wear such glasses.

#67 Posted by SeriouslyNow (8534 posts) -

@xingwa said:

@SeriouslyNow: You can now make almost anything glasses free 3D with the Pic3d Film tech. I'm just looking for some new add-on from Nintendo for the Wii U. The 3D film tech should allow them to push the same type of 3D used in the 3DS without relying on users having a 3D ready display.

That's not the same tech which Toshiba is launching. 3D film has very low depth capability.

#68 Edited by briangodsoe (487 posts) -

This is nothing like the Wii's lack of HD support. 
 
"We are including 3D but not focusing on it."  (WiiU) 
 "We are not including HD" (Wii)

#69 Edited by YukoAsho (2055 posts) -
@MrKlorox said:

@YukoAsho said:

@MrKlorox said:

What do you expect? The glasses based 3DTV technology of today isn't worth the investment and Nintendo knows this.

edit: lol @ the ignorance that 3D will be going away instead of getting better. Oh Internet.

People have been saying that 3D is the wave of the future for the better part of 50 years or so. Not only that, there's no real way to make the experience the same for everyone. A large number of people just can't see the effect, and it's maddening to see so much investment being thrown at something that only a select few can experience.

Yes, the people who said 3D was the future were correct. That future just hasn't happened yet.

And it's a select few that cannot experience 3D, not vice versa. Most of the people in the world have two functioning eyes. Unless that changes, then some form of 3D technology (this includes holography, not just stereoscopy) will be the successor to the 2D screens we've been using forever.

Nobody's arguing that the $3000 TVs that require glasses or have a narrow viewing field are a good investment.

I could see holography working.  Done properly, it wouldn't require your eyes to cross, wouldn't have the issue with narrow viewing angles that you have with the 3DS or the glasses with 3DTVs.  At this point, however, I think it's best to ditch stereoscopic and try to get holography working.  People only just bought into HDTV within the last five years, and only then thanks to Vizio entering the market with crazy aggressive pricing strategy. 
 
@huser 

Uh, what else is the point for a company but to sell a lot of things?

Selling hardware is only one part of the market.  Nintendo does that exquisitely, and has done so with every console put out, excluding only the Virtual Boy (hmm, 3D again...).  They would NOT have lost anything by going with a more modern system.  However, the Wii was where software went to die.  Sales for software, which is where the money really is in this industry, has always been lower than that of the other systems, with the exception of the occasional Mario or Zelda game or the very rare fad like Just Dance. 
 
That's why I always laugh at people who use hardware sales as the sole metric of a console's success.  There could be billions of the bloody things, but if they're all in closets, who cares?
#70 Posted by Rockdalf (1290 posts) -
@Mikazukinoyaiba said:
@Rockdalf said:
And we wonder why companies aren't as honest with us as they are.  Nintendo is telling us their game plan, the console is 3D capable but it's not going to be a priority, and we're ragging on them.  This is the reason we get fed bullshit by Microsoft and Sony (and Capcom) all the time, it's easier to build false hype for something and just drop it when you've already hooked the customers.  I have no interest in 3D gaming, but if I was a gamer who was interested in 3D gaming, I would be glad Nintendo told me it's not really something they're going to push.
It's not that Nintendo said they aren't putting the most focus on 3D television that is getting everyone upset. It is that they gave an unclear answer "The Wii U could support 3D" when people want to know whether it will or not, not whether it could.   Knowing Nintendo and their history, I can read between the lines and tell that they aren't going to support 3D but didn't want to deny it for PR reasons, this just backfired on them by neither confirming or denying.
Maybe it's just me, but I took it as they were pressed for an answer and there answer was that the console was fully capable of 3D game support but it would not be a priority.  Meaning unless there is a huge push for 3D gaming in the next few years, you will probably only see it established with 3rd party titles. 
 
Could it?  Yes.  Will it?  Probably not from Nintendo, who is the only games company they can speak for.
#71 Edited by Deadboy (28 posts) -

Ya know sometimes I just don't understand this company. They are pushing 3D gaming big time through 3DS. The main selling point of the system is its 3D. So it's quite odd that they're not fully supporting 3D game development in all facets. Right?

But this is Nintendo we are talking about. The same company who pissed off Sony so much, they unwittingly created the Playstation and a major competitor. Also, don't forget they touted that on-line gaming was just a fad. Oh Nintendo, you so crazeh!

#72 Edited by Kjellm87 (1728 posts) -

Might as well post some other Wii-U news:

- Darksiders devs says they're impressed, better to develop on than PS3, on par with 360.

- Online system is added by each developer.

- Zelda in works, but don't expect it to have Twilight Princess artstyle.

- Two tablet controllers possible

- Iwata: "Yo dude, can't find a good use of the controllers?, use the buttons."

- Valve: Seems nice, would love to develop for it. Fan of Nintendo.

- Iwata: We will try avoiding a 3DS lineup, we are working hard.

- Iwata: Forced to reveal Wii-U too early thanks to leaks.

- Playing games on modified blueray disk. (Rumor: 25GB )

- Iwata: Might be expensive to produce.

#73 Posted by Noitu (43 posts) -
@Dany: What's funny is that they do this every time and somehow manage to stay in the fight or hit the top of sales. Don't put Nintendo's quirky marketing off just because it isn't really kosher, so-to-speak. They know their games, and they know their audience, and from the looks of it, it looks like this is the first time they actually try and expand their audience, so give it a chance. You can only know if its a bad move if its extremely bad, or otherwise you wait until the console hits.
#74 Posted by Vigorousjammer (2503 posts) -

@MrKlorox said:

Most of the people in the world have two functioning eyes. Unless that changes, then some form of 3D technology (this includes holography, not just stereoscopy) will be the successor to the 2D screens we've been using forever.

lol, imagine if we all grew an extra eye overnight. that'd be hilarious :P

#75 Posted by Sooty (8082 posts) -
@Kjellm87 said:
- Online system is added by each developer.
Alarm bells. Hope it uses a unified login/ID for friends lists or this is going to be a headache;.
 
Would prefer it if Nintendo actually put some effort into online so that they won't be relying on developers to not drop the ball with their online systems.
#76 Posted by DeF (4893 posts) -

@Deadboy said:

Ya know sometimes I just don't understand this company. They are pushing 3D gaming big time through 3DS. The main selling point of the system is its 3D. So it's quite odd that they're not fully supporting 3D game development in all facets. Right?

But this is Nintendo we are talking about. The same company who pissed off Sony so much, they unwittingly created the Playstation and a major competitor. Also, don't forget they touted that on-line gaming was just a fad. Oh Nintendo, you so crazeh!

their whole thing with the 3D on 3DS though was that it is glasses-free. With TVs, that's not the case (cause who can afford a TV that does that right now?).

#77 Posted by avidwriter (667 posts) -

Well, Nintendo is actually doing something right. Kinda, I mean they caved into the 3D gimmick shit with the 3DS but at least they aren't pushing it with the Wii U. Altought the Wii U itself is a whole different mess.

#78 Posted by Dan_CiTi (3320 posts) -

So basically it will probably have basic hooks and ability/power to do 3D stuff like let's say...the PS3 but it's not their focus at all? Good. 

#79 Posted by geirr (2574 posts) -

"If you are going to connect Wii U with a home TV capable of displaying 3-D images, technologically, yes, it is going to be possible, but that's not the area we are focusing on."

I like this statement, but I have no plans of purchasing a 3D TV as is. Of course I play games on my projector because I kinda like 300 inches of video game and a full HD 3D capable projector is not at all cheap.

#80 Posted by twztid13 (3 posts) -

sucks most that they are just leaving the online up to the devs. they're like, "don't like our friend codes, and our excuse that internet isn't widely enough spread to have a comprehensive strategy, then do it yourself." only thing is they are blaming the devs for what the consumers say. looks like they are doing the same with 3D, but that's nowhere near the trainwreck that the online for this thing will be. saddens me. it really does.
#81 Posted by scorptile1 (4 posts) -

lol 3D is a gimmick and is only there to sell tv's and or consoles or handhelds the true "3D" what im thinking of is like what the 3ds and the wii U controller can do and that is turn it a certain way and see more of the game kinda like the thing is a mouse instead of slowly turning the whole screen using a control pad which takes time.  No one i have seen yet besides a few actually understands the potential of the Wii U. think about it a game like call of duty, or even battlefield 3 using just the controller and turning it to aim and shoot your oppontents kinda like how you turn wiht a mouse on a pc but the screen is in your hands instead of on a desk. also the ps3 occasionally displays 720p at most and is in fact native to 680p as to where the Wii U will be a native 1080p constant. which puts the HDTV's to actual gaming use unless someone is watching said tv in which you can use the screen on the controller. If you see 3D tv's no one is really buying them. even for movies because they just are not practicle at all. 

#82 Edited by Majkiboy (972 posts) -

I read the quote as "we will not make any 3D stuff for WiiU" They are not "including" 3D per se, but the WiiU has the power to make it happen. Saying that they are including 3D is like saying that every PC in the world is including 3D since you can watch stereoscopic images with either two screens or one TFT screen. 

Anyway, because there are actually not that many morons in the world buying 3Dtvs, this is good news to me

#83 Posted by fishless (55 posts) -

It's not like you have to do anything special to enable developers to out-put in 3D. Any hardware that can display info at a certain rate can display 3D. It's not an issue of supporting 3D - It's not like they said don't foget the magic that enables 3D out! 

#84 Posted by Aaron_G (1615 posts) -

I could care less about the 3D on my television. Sure, I enjoy it in the theater, but I am not going to go out and purchase a brand new TV just so I can have object look like they can be touched. I am glad to see Nintendo support technology and move on to actually do things to bring an entertainment value to their stuff. But, I am more happy to see it be in HD.

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