Wii U supposedly less powerful than 360 and PS3

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#1 Posted by DefaultProphet (376 posts) -
#2 Posted by DonutFever (3550 posts) -

Wait til E3.

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#3 Posted by Dany (7887 posts) -

@DonutFever said:

Wait til E3.
#4 Posted by Jeust (10473 posts) -

It's not the power that matters, but what you do with it.

#5 Posted by Hailinel (23875 posts) -

@DonutFever said:

Wait til E3.

@DefaultProphet: Seriously. Separate rumors have all stated that the Wii U is either less powerful, more powerful, or on par with the PS3/360. There is so much misinformation floating about from a variety of supposedly "reliable" sources that there is absolutely no way to tell what is fact from fiction at this juncture.

#6 Posted by Claude (16254 posts) -

The Wii was barely more powerful than a Pentium 3 PC I had back in 2003. I still play my Wii. That PC is gone.

#7 Posted by Levio (1783 posts) -

@Jeust said:

It's not the power that matters, but what you do with it.

exactly, it doesn't matter how weak the console is if most of the games are shovel ware anyway

#8 Posted by Claude (16254 posts) -
@Levio said:

@Jeust said:

It's not the power that matters, but what you do with it.

exactly, it doesn't matter how weak the console is if most of the games are shovel ware anyway

This old argument again. It never ends.
#9 Posted by crusader8463 (14413 posts) -

@Claude said:

The Wii was barely more powerful than a Pentium 3 PC I had back in 2003. I still play my Wii. That PC is gone.

I'm sorry your PC left ya Claude. It was a whore anyway. Just focus on you and your Wii's relationship and making the best dam time of it that you can.

#10 Posted by mandude (2669 posts) -

So at this stage, with all the combined facts(?) laid out in front of us, we are indeed able to confirm that the Wii U is in fact, a console.

#11 Posted by DefaultProphet (376 posts) -

@Claude said:

@Levio said:

@Jeust said:

It's not the power that matters, but what you do with it.

exactly, it doesn't matter how weak the console is if most of the games are shovel ware anyway

This old argument again. It never ends.

Probably because it's true? Just a thought

#12 Posted by matthias2437 (985 posts) -

I hope this is true. I know a few ninentdo fanboys that have pretty much been telling everyone they know that the wii u is the reincarnation of Jesus Christ. One guy is telling people it will be 7 times more powerful than 360 or PS3 and will have 8 gigs or RAM. Idiot.

#13 Posted by yoshimitz707 (2450 posts) -

@DefaultProphet said:

@Claude said:

@Levio said:

@Jeust said:

It's not the power that matters, but what you do with it.

exactly, it doesn't matter how weak the console is if most of the games are shovel ware anyway

This old argument again. It never ends.

Probably because it's true? Just a thought

You guys should step off and respect the Claude!

#14 Posted by Claude (16254 posts) -
@DefaultProphet said:

@Claude said:

@Levio said:

@Jeust said:

It's not the power that matters, but what you do with it.

exactly, it doesn't matter how weak the console is if most of the games are shovel ware anyway

This old argument again. It never ends.

Probably because it's true? Just a thought

There is shovelware everywhere. I'm sure Kinect games are top of the line though. And Move..seems to have moved on. I know what I'm looking for and I've found a ton of great Wii games. I'm still buying the ones I missed.
#15 Posted by iam3green (14390 posts) -

wait until E3 people. i do hope that it's not true though. some of the consoles are about the graphics.

#16 Posted by zombie2011 (4968 posts) -

I heard it's less powerful than a TI-89 calculator.

#17 Posted by august (3827 posts) -

Are we sure they'll actually drop the cold hard system pecs at e3?

#18 Posted by Claude (16254 posts) -
@crusader8463 said:

@Claude said:

The Wii was barely more powerful than a Pentium 3 PC I had back in 2003. I still play my Wii. That PC is gone.

I'm sorry your PC left ya Claude. It was a whore anyway. Just focus on you and your Wii's relationship and making the best dam time of it that you can.

That's the thing. If people are worried about power and graphics, buy a PC and be done with it. If you want to play Nintendo software on a Nintendo console finally in HD, buy the Wii U or whatever it's going to be called. Hell, even PC people are playing Nintendo games on their PC.
#19 Posted by Dpower94 (233 posts) -

@Claude said:

The Wii was barely more powerful than a Pentium 3 PC I had back in 2003. I still play my Wii. That PC is gone.

His name is Claude, he loves his Wii, he loves his god-damn Wii.

#20 Posted by BigSocrates (288 posts) -

I hope the graphics are improved over this gen, but more important to me is whether the can fix the online shopping experience and whether I can move over my virtual console games. I would be fine with a less powerful Nintendo console if it's user friendly and has great Nintendo games.

#21 Posted by Hailinel (23875 posts) -

@august said:

Are we sure they'll actually drop the cold hard system pecs at e3?

Cold, hard pecs?

Yowza. The ladies will go wild.

#22 Posted by FesteringNeon (2158 posts) -

I could see it happening, and it not really mattering. Wii's graphics wern't leaps and bounds over the original xbox's graphics. They took a risk, and capitalized on their target audience. I don't see any reason as to why they'd want to do anything outside of affordable, and creative once again.

#23 Posted by nick_verissimo (1380 posts) -

@mandude said:

So at this stage, with all the combined facts(?) laid out in front of us, we are indeed able to confirm that the Wii U is in fact, a console.

I dunno, I still think that it's still a little too early to be sure.

#24 Posted by Butz (24 posts) -

More powerful less powerful, whatever. All I care about is that it's different. We don't need 3 consoles that do the exact same thing

#25 Posted by BestUsernameEver (4825 posts) -

@Claude said:

@Levio said:

@Jeust said:

It's not the power that matters, but what you do with it.

exactly, it doesn't matter how weak the console is if most of the games are shovel ware anyway

This old argument again. It never ends.

It's been the same argument since Nintendo started making systems. Anyone who thinks the next thing Nintendo puts out will 'be different this time' is mistaken. You already know what the system will do, how many exclusives it will get and how it will innovate the competitors into a corner.

#26 Posted by MariachiMacabre (7049 posts) -

@Claude said:

The Wii was barely more powerful than a Pentium 3 PC I had back in 2003. I still play my Wii. That PC is gone.

Yeah. As long as they pump out good games, I don't see the issue of the system not being very powerful.

#27 Posted by BestUsernameEver (4825 posts) -

@Hailinel said:

@august said:

Are we sure they'll actually drop the cold hard system pecs at e3?

Cold, hard pecs?

Yowza. The ladies will go wild.

cold, hard pecs, lol. ONE OF THESE IS NOT LIKE THE OTHER. ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬,

#28 Posted by Claude (16254 posts) -
@rebgav said:

@Claude said:

That's the thing. If people are worried about power and graphics, buy a PC and be done with it. If you want to play Nintendo software on a Nintendo console finally in HD, buy the Wii U or whatever it's going to be called. Hell, even PC people are playing Nintendo games on their PC.

So, if we can parse this a little, you're saying that if we want to play Nintendo games in HD but don't care for the console, buy a PC?

I believe that is sound advice. What's the over-under on the first Wii U emulator being out before the first Wii U Zelda game?

I was just talking about the Dolphin emulator mostly. I've never used it, but people on these boards seem to like it. But I'm sure someone will create more emulators, no doubt. I'll just stick to the console versions.
#29 Posted by benspyda (2030 posts) -

I think matching the 360s power would be Nintendo's best bet if they want to make money off each console sale. If it falls behind hardware that was dated back in 2005 then even if it handles multiplatform titles that are on ps3 and 360, what's the point if it is the worst version?

#30 Posted by YoThatLimp (1880 posts) -

@Dpower94 said:

@Claude said:

The Wii was barely more powerful than a Pentium 3 PC I had back in 2003. I still play my Wii. That PC is gone.

His name is Claude, he loves his Wii, he loves his god-damn Wii.

Is it weird that I say that in my head every-god-damn-time I see Clause post?

#31 Posted by FancySoapsMan (5806 posts) -

I'm ok with that as long as the games on it are good.

#32 Posted by JeanLuc (3572 posts) -

As long as I get this, I'm ok.

#33 Posted by NekuCTR (1663 posts) -

720 or bust.

also

@Dany said:

@DonutFever said:

Wait til E3.
#34 Posted by B0nd07 (1697 posts) -

@Claude said:

@Levio said:

@Jeust said:

It's not the power that matters, but what you do with it.

exactly, it doesn't matter how weak the console is if most of the games are shovel ware anyway

This old argument again. It never ends.

'Cause we all know the 360 and PS3 are completely free of crappy 3rd party games. Not to mention the spectacular Kinect and Move libraries.

#35 Posted by Raven10 (1724 posts) -

My assumption would be that the power of the console is about equal if not slightly greater than the 360 or PS3, but those advantages are nerfed by having to output to a tablet screen as well. Depending on the resolution of the tablet screen the Wii could feasibly have to produce two 720p images at the same time which would make the image on either screen inferior to what you'd get if you were outputting to a single screen. It would be similar to outputting every game in 3D, or if the tablet is maybe 480p then you'd require about 1.5x the power not a full 2x. Developers could just put simple graphics on the touch screen at which point the hit wouldn't be too great, but if they want to put console quality graphics on the tablet screen they would risk losing a lot of fidelity on the TV screen.

#36 Posted by fetchfox (1221 posts) -

Hm, I'll wait and see. I like Nintendo, but Wii U has still to interest me.

#37 Posted by Ketchupp (672 posts) -

Hopefully that's not true. They need the system to use more than one of them fancy space controllers.

#38 Posted by StrainedEyes (1321 posts) -

I'm probably only going to buy one next-gen system... and it definitely will not be the Wii U.

#39 Posted by mosespippy (4032 posts) -

@Claude said:

@DefaultProphet said:

@Claude said:

@Levio said:

@Jeust said:

It's not the power that matters, but what you do with it.

exactly, it doesn't matter how weak the console is if most of the games are shovel ware anyway

This old argument again. It never ends.

Probably because it's true? Just a thought

There is shovelware everywhere. I'm sure Kinect games are top of the line though. And Move..seems to have moved on. I know what I'm looking for and I've found a ton of great Wii games. I'm still buying the ones I missed.

I think the issue with shovelware is only a problem when it reaches a critical mass. Once you shovel so much the good gets buried. I have tried to find copies of games that I heard were good like Zack and Wiki, Boom Blox, and Little Kings Story. I can't find them (or rather, couldn't find them at release or a few months afterwards) because the stores don't buy new wii games unless it's a proven seller because they have so much shovelware that didn't sell. Without stores buying them how can they become proven sellers? It's a viscous cycle. No one's saying Kinect and Move games aren't shovelware, but they haven't reached a critical mass that makes purchasing good 360 or PS3 games difficult.

#40 Posted by PrivateIronTFU (3874 posts) -

Who cares? It's Wii in HD. That should be good enough for you people.

#41 Posted by McShank (1629 posts) -

@DefaultProphet said:

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-04-02-wii-u-less-powerful-than-ps3-xbox-360-developers-say

This is frankly ridiculous if true. It's one thing to be the least powerful system of the current generation but to be less powerful than the LAST generation? That's....I don't even

what site is that and why do we care? its nintendo, Not sony.. I buy Nintendo for the fun, not the graphics.. I have more games on the wii i want to buy and play then on 360 and ps3 combined not because they look better but they look like more fun. Also, its a handheld / console so dont put it as the Next Ultra Console.

#42 Edited by Claude (16254 posts) -
@mosespippy: I'm sure you could find those games online. I just bought Little King's Story last month at my local Gamestop. I also saw a copy of Boom Blox Bash Party, Dead Space Extraction and Red Steal 2 I'm thinking of picking up.
#43 Posted by Lazyaza (2166 posts) -

If the Wii proved anything power means diddly fucking squat when it comes to sales and marketshare in the game industry.

#44 Posted by Vinny_Says (5686 posts) -

@Claude said:

And Move..seems to have moved on.

OOOOOOOHHHHH SNAP!!! DAAAAWWWUUUM CLAUDE!!!

#45 Posted by DBagalot (159 posts) -

@BestUsernameEver said:

@Claude said:

@Levio said:

@Jeust said:

It's not the power that matters, but what you do with it.

exactly, it doesn't matter how weak the console is if most of the games are shovel ware anyway

This old argument again. It never ends.

Anyone who thinks the next thing Nintendo puts out will 'be different this time' is mistaken.

#46 Posted by SkyTown_Drifts (47 posts) -

@Lazyaza: If you haven't noticed, the weakest console has won in every single generation except for the Snes in terms of sales.

#47 Posted by Claude (16254 posts) -
@Vinny_Says said:

@Claude said:

And Move..seems to have moved on.

OOOOOOOHHHHH SNAP!!! DAAAAWWWUUUM CLAUDE!!!

Yeah, I slid that little jab in there.
#48 Posted by ImpendingFoil (555 posts) -

I do not buy Nintendo consoles these days for third party support so the only thing I really want from the next Nintendo system is HD capability. I buy Nintendo for the first party stuff and will probably continue to do so since that is the way it has been with Nintendo pretty much since the SNES.

#49 Posted by LordAndrew (14424 posts) -
@mosespippy said:

@Claude said:

@DefaultProphet said:

@Claude said:

@Levio said:

@Jeust said:

It's not the power that matters, but what you do with it.

exactly, it doesn't matter how weak the console is if most of the games are shovel ware anyway

This old argument again. It never ends.

Probably because it's true? Just a thought

There is shovelware everywhere. I'm sure Kinect games are top of the line though. And Move..seems to have moved on. I know what I'm looking for and I've found a ton of great Wii games. I'm still buying the ones I missed.

I think the issue with shovelware is only a problem when it reaches a critical mass. Once you shovel so much the good gets buried. I have tried to find copies of games that I heard were good like Zack and Wiki, Boom Blox, and Little Kings Story. I can't find them (or rather, couldn't find them at release or a few months afterwards) because the stores don't buy new wii games unless it's a proven seller because they have so much shovelware that didn't sell. Without stores buying them how can they become proven sellers? It's a viscous cycle. No one's saying Kinect and Move games aren't shovelware, but they haven't reached a critical mass that makes purchasing good 360 or PS3 games difficult.

Yep, sounds like when I got my PS2 in 2006.
#50 Edited by LiquidPrince (15842 posts) -

@Jeust said:

It's not the power that matters, but what you do with it.

That's only true to a certain extent... Already some games have maxed out their respective consoles and you can easily see that it's occasionally not enough. To release a console with lower specs then a 6 year old console is completely retarded.

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