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The Nintendo Wii is a home video game console released on November 19, 2006. The Wii's main selling point was the innovative use of motion controls that its signature Wii Remote and Nunchuk controllers allowed for. It became the best selling home console of its respective generation of hardware.
Anyone anticipating Zelda Wii should read this...
Sorry, but Zelda was dead to me a long time ago. The failure of Twilight Princess showed me that there never will be another true Zelda game.
" @RaikohBlade said:It's not about the game mechanics, it's about the heart, the soul of the game. Perhaps some gamers are not capable of comprehending such an abstract concept in a game, but it doesn't matter to me. Ocarina of Time was the last real Zelda game, it had a magic to it that has long since vanished from games. Very few games these days have this sensation about them. The story doesn't need to be complex, gameplay doesn't need to be complex, but the incredible ability to draw a player into a game can only happen when a game has a "soul." That is what OoT did, yes, it had awesome graphics/gameplay for the time, but that isn't what made it what it is. You don't play OoT, you are IN OoT." Sorry, but Zelda was dead to me a long time ago. The failure of Twilight Princess showed me that there never will be another true Zelda game. "A 'true' Zelda game being... "
" @RaikohBlade said:Everyone expects another OoT, and it will never happen every time. TP was in NO WAY a failure, yet rather a success." Sorry, but Zelda was dead to me a long time ago. The failure of Twilight Princess showed me that there never will be another true Zelda game. "A 'true' Zelda game being... "
It thrived both in sales and quality of game.
If you want to get an outside opinion, check the reviews, those were good too.
" @Icemael said:I think Twilight Princess had tons of heart. In fact, heart was what made the game good -- the actual mechanics were dated, stiff and just janky in general." @RaikohBlade said:It's not about the game mechanics, it's about the heart, the soul of the game. Perhaps some gamers are not capable of comprehending such an abstract concept in a game, but it doesn't matter to me. Ocarina of Time was the last real Zelda game, it had a magic to it that has long since vanished from games. Very few games these days have this sensation about them. The story doesn't need to be complex, gameplay doesn't need to be complex, but the incredible ability to draw a player into a game can only happen when a game has a "soul." That is what OoT did, yes, it had awesome graphics/gameplay for the time, but that isn't what made it what it is. You don't play OoT, you are IN OoT. "" Sorry, but Zelda was dead to me a long time ago. The failure of Twilight Princess showed me that there never will be another true Zelda game. "A 'true' Zelda game being... "
Now Phantom Hourglass, that is a soulless Zelda game.
I checked up on Windwaker a LONG time ago, and it didn't interest me. I had the misfortune of playing Twilight Princess, and at first I thought maybe it was on the level of OoT. But the more I played it, the more I realized it was a cheap wannabe. I didn't have the will to finish it. And yes, it is still a great game, but in terms of being another legendary Zelda game, it fails.
Woah, talk about spining a story. I saw this yesterday on a Japanese site. The comment was initiated by something his son said in respect to the DS games - boats, trains, and aeroplanes etc. He was referring to the next DS game, not the Wii game.
Wind Waker is my favorite Zelda game, and I've played LTTP, OoT, MM, WW, PH, TP, and the first two. :P
@RaikohBlade said:
" @Icemael said:Yet, if they make another OoT, the game will be criticized because of it. You realize that TP got a lot of guff because some reviewers thought it was "too similar" to OoT? Personally, I'm not complaining and loved the game, but if you were the developers and you seen that why would you even want to create another OoT? It would just be shit on because Nintendo would, in the eyes of reviewers, be "recycling" game mechanics. Which is another reason why I hate reviewers... but that's another tale." @RaikohBlade said:It's not about the game mechanics, it's about the heart, the soul of the game. Perhaps some gamers are not capable of comprehending such an abstract concept in a game, but it doesn't matter to me. Ocarina of Time was the last real Zelda game, it had a magic to it that has long since vanished from games. Very few games these days have this sensation about them. The story doesn't need to be complex, gameplay doesn't need to be complex, but the incredible ability to draw a player into a game can only happen when a game has a "soul." That is what OoT did, yes, it had awesome graphics/gameplay for the time, but that isn't what made it what it is. You don't play OoT, you are IN OoT. "" Sorry, but Zelda was dead to me a long time ago. The failure of Twilight Princess showed me that there never will be another true Zelda game. "A 'true' Zelda game being... "
The game has a very high opinion with me also, I just wish it was considerably longer. It was deflating to find there wasn't a large world to discover under the water, because that would have been in keeping with past games. (Dark World) I still adore the game though, I think it features some of the Zelda series finest moments in story telling.
I have a Limited Edition copy of the game that you've probably never seen before.
" Wind Waker is my favorite Zelda game, and I've played LTTP, OoT, MM, WW, PH, TP, and the first two. :PI never said make another OoT. I want another game that is on par with OoT. Big difference. Twilight Princess not only had no heart, it was a cheap attempt to emulate OoT. Double fail in my book. And yes, I am pretty harsh, but OoT spoiled me, so I have super high standards for Zelda games. Don't even get me started on the DS Zelda garbage. However, I have to say that the GBC Zelda games (Oracle of Ages/Oracle of Seasons) were awesome, despite the fact that they did not have Zelda in them. A Link to the Past was awesome too, but I don't have the patience to play that on my DS, so yeah. Another 3D Zelda that is on par with OoT and has the same kind of magical "ability" that draws you into the game.
@RaikohBlade said:" @Icemael said:Yet, if they make another OoT, the game will be criticized because of it. You realize that TP got a lot of guff because some reviewers thought it was "too similar" to OoT? Personally, I'm not complaining and loved the game, but if you were the developers and you seen that why would you even want to create another OoT? It would just be shit on because Nintendo would, in the eyes of reviewers, be "recycling" game mechanics. Which is another reason why I hate reviewers... but that's another tale. "" @RaikohBlade said:It's not about the game mechanics, it's about the heart, the soul of the game. Perhaps some gamers are not capable of comprehending such an abstract concept in a game, but it doesn't matter to me. Ocarina of Time was the last real Zelda game, it had a magic to it that has long since vanished from games. Very few games these days have this sensation about them. The story doesn't need to be complex, gameplay doesn't need to be complex, but the incredible ability to draw a player into a game can only happen when a game has a "soul." That is what OoT did, yes, it had awesome graphics/gameplay for the time, but that isn't what made it what it is. You don't play OoT, you are IN OoT. "" Sorry, but Zelda was dead to me a long time ago. The failure of Twilight Princess showed me that there never will be another true Zelda game. "A 'true' Zelda game being... "
" @xyzygy said:By magical ability that draws you in you mean "I'm too nostalgic for OoT so no other 3d Zelda game will satisfy me."" Wind Waker is my favorite Zelda game, and I've played LTTP, OoT, MM, WW, PH, TP, and the first two. :PI never said make another OoT. I want another game that is on par with OoT. Big difference. Twilight Princess not only had no heart, it was a cheap attempt to emulate OoT. Double fail in my book. And yes, I am pretty harsh, but OoT spoiled me, so I have super high standards for Zelda games. Don't even get me started on the DS Zelda garbage. However, I have to say that the GBC Zelda games (Oracle of Ages/Oracle of Seasons) were awesome, despite the fact that they did not have Zelda in them. A Link to the Past was awesome too, but I don't have the patience to play that on my DS, so yeah. Another 3D Zelda that is on par with OoT and has the same kind of magical "ability" that draws you into the game. "
@RaikohBlade said:" @Icemael said:Yet, if they make another OoT, the game will be criticized because of it. You realize that TP got a lot of guff because some reviewers thought it was "too similar" to OoT? Personally, I'm not complaining and loved the game, but if you were the developers and you seen that why would you even want to create another OoT? It would just be shit on because Nintendo would, in the eyes of reviewers, be "recycling" game mechanics. Which is another reason why I hate reviewers... but that's another tale. "" @RaikohBlade said:It's not about the game mechanics, it's about the heart, the soul of the game. Perhaps some gamers are not capable of comprehending such an abstract concept in a game, but it doesn't matter to me. Ocarina of Time was the last real Zelda game, it had a magic to it that has long since vanished from games. Very few games these days have this sensation about them. The story doesn't need to be complex, gameplay doesn't need to be complex, but the incredible ability to draw a player into a game can only happen when a game has a "soul." That is what OoT did, yes, it had awesome graphics/gameplay for the time, but that isn't what made it what it is. You don't play OoT, you are IN OoT. "" Sorry, but Zelda was dead to me a long time ago. The failure of Twilight Princess showed me that there never will be another true Zelda game. "A 'true' Zelda game being... "
" @CL60: I think that's about it :P OOT meant much more to gaming, but TP and Windwaker are better games. "Quite true. It was the first 3D Zelda, so when we first seen it EVERYTHING was spectacular :P
@Linkyshinks said:
" @xyzygy: The game has a very high opinion with me also, I just wish it was considerably longer. It was deflating to find there wasn't a large world to discover under the water, because that would have been in keeping with past games. (Dark World) I still adore the game though, I think it features some of the Zelda series finest moments in story telling. I have a Limited Edition copy of the game that you've probably never seen before. "Is it the one with the shiny gold cover? If not... SO JEALOUS! I will google it. WW is probably the cutest little game I've ever played.
" @RaikohBlade said:I don't know, that may very well be true. But I have not been tested as such yet, as there hasn't been a Zelda game yet to match OoT in terms of critical acclaim and actually interest me enough to play it. Windwaker came very close indeed, and I have yet to play that, but the whole tone of the game didn't interest me. So yes, I have very high standards indeed. I would really like a remake of OoT in modern day graphics and sound quality, that would actually entice me to MAYBE pick up a used Wii or something." @xyzygy said:By magical ability that draws you in you mean "I'm too nostalgic for OoT so no other 3d Zelda game will satisfy me." "" Wind Waker is my favorite Zelda game, and I've played LTTP, OoT, MM, WW, PH, TP, and the first two. :PI never said make another OoT. I want another game that is on par with OoT. Big difference. Twilight Princess not only had no heart, it was a cheap attempt to emulate OoT. Double fail in my book. And yes, I am pretty harsh, but OoT spoiled me, so I have super high standards for Zelda games. Don't even get me started on the DS Zelda garbage. However, I have to say that the GBC Zelda games (Oracle of Ages/Oracle of Seasons) were awesome, despite the fact that they did not have Zelda in them. A Link to the Past was awesome too, but I don't have the patience to play that on my DS, so yeah. Another 3D Zelda that is on par with OoT and has the same kind of magical "ability" that draws you into the game. "
@RaikohBlade said:" @Icemael said:Yet, if they make another OoT, the game will be criticized because of it. You realize that TP got a lot of guff because some reviewers thought it was "too similar" to OoT? Personally, I'm not complaining and loved the game, but if you were the developers and you seen that why would you even want to create another OoT? It would just be shit on because Nintendo would, in the eyes of reviewers, be "recycling" game mechanics. Which is another reason why I hate reviewers... but that's another tale. "" @RaikohBlade said:It's not about the game mechanics, it's about the heart, the soul of the game. Perhaps some gamers are not capable of comprehending such an abstract concept in a game, but it doesn't matter to me. Ocarina of Time was the last real Zelda game, it had a magic to it that has long since vanished from games. Very few games these days have this sensation about them. The story doesn't need to be complex, gameplay doesn't need to be complex, but the incredible ability to draw a player into a game can only happen when a game has a "soul." That is what OoT did, yes, it had awesome graphics/gameplay for the time, but that isn't what made it what it is. You don't play OoT, you are IN OoT. "" Sorry, but Zelda was dead to me a long time ago. The failure of Twilight Princess showed me that there never will be another true Zelda game. "A 'true' Zelda game being... "
OoT is simply going to be everyones favorite Zelda game I'd say. I however enjoyed Majora's Mask just as much but thats just me. However I have not played Twilight Princess and Phantom Hourglass was a complete fail for me. And don't get me started on how gay that Zelda with the Train sounds. The legendary Zelda games ARE really dying.
" @CL60 said:" @RaikohBlade said:I don't know, that may very well be true. But I have not been tested as such yet, as there hasn't been a Zelda game yet to match OoT in terms of critical acclaim and actually interest me enough to play it. Windwaker came very close indeed, and I have yet to play that, but the whole tone of the game didn't interest me. So yes, I have very high standards indeed. I would really like a remake of OoT in modern day graphics and sound quality, that would actually entice me to MAYBE pick up a used Wii or something. "" @xyzygy said:By magical ability that draws you in you mean "I'm too nostalgic for OoT so no other 3d Zelda game will satisfy me." "" Wind Waker is my favorite Zelda game, and I've played LTTP, OoT, MM, WW, PH, TP, and the first two. :PI never said make another OoT. I want another game that is on par with OoT. Big difference. Twilight Princess not only had no heart, it was a cheap attempt to emulate OoT. Double fail in my book. And yes, I am pretty harsh, but OoT spoiled me, so I have super high standards for Zelda games. Don't even get me started on the DS Zelda garbage. However, I have to say that the GBC Zelda games (Oracle of Ages/Oracle of Seasons) were awesome, despite the fact that they did not have Zelda in them. A Link to the Past was awesome too, but I don't have the patience to play that on my DS, so yeah. Another 3D Zelda that is on par with OoT and has the same kind of magical "ability" that draws you into the game. "
@RaikohBlade said:" @Icemael said:Yet, if they make another OoT, the game will be criticized because of it. You realize that TP got a lot of guff because some reviewers thought it was "too similar" to OoT? Personally, I'm not complaining and loved the game, but if you were the developers and you seen that why would you even want to create another OoT? It would just be shit on because Nintendo would, in the eyes of reviewers, be "recycling" game mechanics. Which is another reason why I hate reviewers... but that's another tale. "" @RaikohBlade said:It's not about the game mechanics, it's about the heart, the soul of the game. Perhaps some gamers are not capable of comprehending such an abstract concept in a game, but it doesn't matter to me. Ocarina of Time was the last real Zelda game, it had a magic to it that has long since vanished from games. Very few games these days have this sensation about them. The story doesn't need to be complex, gameplay doesn't need to be complex, but the incredible ability to draw a player into a game can only happen when a game has a "soul." That is what OoT did, yes, it had awesome graphics/gameplay for the time, but that isn't what made it what it is. You don't play OoT, you are IN OoT. "" Sorry, but Zelda was dead to me a long time ago. The failure of Twilight Princess showed me that there never will be another true Zelda game. "A 'true' Zelda game being... "
Sounds like another dynasty warrior's idea.
" @Icemael said:Stopped reading here. Majora's Mask is a masterpiece in its own right, Wind Waker is also an epic experience with plenty of 'soul' but it's a pity that they rushed the last quarter of the game" @RaikohBlade said:It's not about the game mechanics, it's about the heart, the soul of the game. Perhaps some gamers are not capable of comprehending such an abstract concept in a game, but it doesn't matter to me. Ocarina of Time was the last real Zelda game," Sorry, but Zelda was dead to me a long time ago. The failure of Twilight Princess showed me that there never will be another true Zelda game. "A 'true' Zelda game being... "
" ,I can certainly agree with that. The triforce fetch quest was lame.
Stopped reading here. Majora's Mask is a masterpiece in its own right, Wind Waker is also an epic experience with plenty of 'soul' but it's a pity that they rushed the last quarter of the game "
" @Godwind: It's the same thing with Final Fantasy 7 that people have been wanting. HD remake and all. I don't think it's a bad thing to give the best games of their respective generations a modern makeover while keeping the actual game intact. "
Final Fantasy 7 is overrated. It's the second worst in the entire main series, after Final Fantasy 12.
" @RaikohBlade said:" @Godwind: It's the same thing with Final Fantasy 7 that people have been wanting. HD remake and all. I don't think it's a bad thing to give the best games of their respective generations a modern makeover while keeping the actual game intact. "Final Fantasy 7 is overrated. It's the second worst in the entire main series, after Final Fantasy 12. "
It is indeed overrated, but it has had the greatest impact on the gaming community out of all the Final Fantasies. FF7 finally got the non-hardcore gamers interested in Final Fantasy, and because of that it has the greatest legacy. Also, it has the most popular characters out of all the Final Fantasies. The core gameplay is amazing IMO. I personally loved the materia system, as it gave a lot of freedom to the player. Limit breaks were awesome, too.
I really enjoyed the boat in Wind Waker so I don't think I would mind another travel system. However, I don't have a Wii so I can't really get excited for the next Zelda game anyways.
" Kinda wish they'd leave Zelda alone and make it how it used to be. I don't want to sail a boat, don't want to ride a train, don't want to be a wolf and I don't have much interest in flying. It'll still be good though. Hopefully. "How it used to be? Zelda was always a franchise that tried new things, kid, it didn't go sour till they started playing it safe because of people like you. Zelda 2 added fucking sidescrolling, bro. Link's Awakening was entirely a dream. Majora's Mask ended the third day with Hyrule being destroyed. You're just plane wrong if you think there was ever a time when Zelda games always played it safe. That's entirely new.
" @Godwind said:
" @RaikohBlade said:It is indeed overrated, but it has had the greatest impact on the gaming community out of all the Final Fantasies. FF7 finally got the non-hardcore gamers interested in Final Fantasy, and because of that it has the greatest legacy. Also, it has the most popular characters out of all the Final Fantasies. The core gameplay is amazing IMO. I personally loved the materia system, as it gave a lot of freedom to the player. Limit breaks were awesome, too. "" @Godwind: It's the same thing with Final Fantasy 7 that people have been wanting. HD remake and all. I don't think it's a bad thing to give the best games of their respective generations a modern makeover while keeping the actual game intact. "Final Fantasy 7 is overrated. It's the second worst in the entire main series, after Final Fantasy 12. "
-The greatest impact on gaming has been Nintendo games.
-Final Fantasy 7 got people expanded the market for RPGs
-No, it has the most iconic characters out of all the Final Fantasies
-The Core gameplay is redundant and has been done better by other final fantasy games
-No, limited how much you could equip to your character. The class system from Final Fantasy 1,2,3,5,8,10 gave way more freedom.
-Limit breaks suck. Giant Breasts are awesome.
@PureRok said:
HOLY SHIT!!! AN OPINION. THIS IS HERESY. BURN THE WITCH." Maybe they'll be like bird wings that strap onto his arms and he'll have to flap? I don't know.
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... God I hate posting this again, but I must!
The game after will feature astronaut Link and his spaceship that can travel through time, so you go back in time and take the tri-force and prevent all of the Zelda games from happening.
Miaymoto was also hinting that he wanted Star Fox to be a bigger hit a few months ago. I mean I'm just putting two and two together here.
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