" Will do, and thanks for the encouragement. This has got so far off from what I was saying to begin with so let me spell it out here. Nintendo has certain franchises that will always be on the stylized side of things, thats a given. But the only reason they dont do realism is because they to this point cant really do it(be it hardware or otherwise). The statement that they try to be different is a cop out because thats pretty much the only direction they have(again be it hardware or otherwise). I have my issues with waggle control but Im an old man and I still loves me some Nintendo games, however Im not blinded by that to the point of not being able to see that when the cards fell Nintendo didnt draw a good hand and they had to work with what they had. They did a good job as far as a business is concerned, but if you think that what we see from Nintendo is not a direct result of hardware, developer, and competition then you are a fool.  "

Why do people still think this shit. They didnt invent the wheel. Analog sticks go back as far as old Atari systems, maybe before. Rumble had been done for years on the pc before n64. 4 player built in was done on consoles before n64. 3d exploration gameplay has to be a joke because that wasn't anything new either. Anti-aliasing and add-ons had been done on consoles as well, so what your left with is portable connectivity and that certainly was important. You can tell how important it is by how much we connect our portables to our consoles these days.  As for the topic at hand. Putting aside the quality of the system and software, the entire shpeal is clearly just business talk so I have no idea why this topic is still going. The console is underpowered, they know that and so do we. If it had the guts to handle what the other consoles can then you better vet your ass that ol'ninty would be pumping out some games that look like what everyone else is doing. Why would they do this you may ask? Because they are a business, and not actually your bestest ever friend in the world. They are out for money like everyone else, they just have to make due with what they have because they have no choice. At the end of the day while Mario will never go the realistic route, certainly other Nintendo property's would if they had the hardware to pull it off. "

There is alot of creative shit that looks amazing, graphics don't have to look 8 years old to be unique and stand out.

But you can. I don't get what this "ugly" nonsense is all about. I liked the graphics 8 years ago. I can still play Quake and I can enjoy it, dammit!