Miyamoto Says Wii Motion Plus Is Only Possible Now

#1 Edited by Linkyshinks (9883 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

Nintendo's Shigeru Miyamoto has stated that the inclusion of Wii Motion Plus technology into Wii Remotes was simply not feasible at the launch of the Wii.

Speaking to our broadsheet newspaper The Telegraph:

"It's a continuous evolution. Not all the Wii software requires MotionPlus, so it is appropriate for us to position it as a peripheral."

"Also, it was not technically feasible for the technology to be realized with such a compact size. The fact we are now being able to sell Motion Plus at this price, at this size, is the result of technological advancements in the field of microelectro-mechanical systems, which took place after Wii launched."

#2 Posted by Al3xand3r (7574 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

Who was still wondering? That's been said many times by Nintendo and the company that actually made the gyroscope, and others...

#3 Posted by JeffGoldblum (3605 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

Excuses, excuses...
If Motion Control technology didnt work why did they make a Motion Control Console?
Its the same thinking as releasing a broken game and patching it later.

#4 Posted by Otacon (2112 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

I haven't tried the MotionPlus yet, just ordered Wii sports resort after deliberating on it for a while, really hope the MotionPlus works as well as they say it does.

#5 Posted by Akeldama (4139 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

@JeffGoldblum said:

" Excuses, excuses...If Motion Control technology didnt work why did they make a Motion Control Console?Its the same thinking as releasing a broken game and patching it later. "

#6 Posted by ThomasP (1648 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

Yeah, you think they would have planned the whole Wii Motion Plus thing before they even launched the console. Of course, we'll never know for sure, but something smells fishy IMO.

#7 Posted by Lies (3865 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

@Akeldama said:

" @JeffGoldblum said:
" Excuses, excuses...If Motion Control technology didnt work why did they make a Motion Control Console?Its the same thinking as releasing a broken game and patching it later. "

"

This makes too much sense.

#8 Posted by Claude (15863 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

@ThomasP said:

" Yeah, you think they would have planned the whole Wii Motion Plus thing before they even launched the console. Of course, we'll never know for sure, but something smells fishy IMO. "

I think it came down to money. I think Nintendo had a price in mind and nothing was going to stop them. So... slow... sounds like the new Nintendo.

#9 Posted by Claude (15863 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

@Lies said:

" @Akeldama said:
" @JeffGoldblum said:
" Excuses, excuses...If Motion Control technology didnt work why did they make a Motion Control Console?Its the same thinking as releasing a broken game and patching it later. "

"
This makes too much sense. "

No, no... there's been some great games on the Wii. Motion Control worked but it had limitations. I've played a shit load of games on the Wii and to say it did not work is wrong.

#10 Posted by Akeldama (4139 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

@Claude said:

" @Lies said:
" @Akeldama said:
" @JeffGoldblum said:
" Excuses, excuses...If Motion Control technology didnt work why did they make a Motion Control Console?Its the same thinking as releasing a broken game and patching it later. "

"
This makes too much sense. "
No, no... there's been some great games on the Wii. Motion Control worked but it had limitations. I've played a shit load of games on the Wii and to say it did not work is wrong. "

no fool. It did not work the way it was supposed to.

#11 Posted by Claude (15863 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

@Akeldama: I'm not a fool. I'm sorry Nintendo offended you.

#12 Posted by ThomasP (1648 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

@Claude said:

" @Akeldama: I'm not a fool. I'm sorry Nintendo offended you. "

Don't listen to him Claude. He doesn't use logic.

#13 Posted by AgentJ (8775 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

Yeah, I dont believe him at all. Come on Miyamoto, don't bother lying to us. It certainly would have been more expensive, but dont feed me some bullshit like it was impossible.

#14 Edited by Al3xand3r (7574 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

Pretty sure the manufacturers of the gyroscope said it's brand-new technology (when it was first shown) and only then they had managed to make it that small & affordable... And that they approached Nintendo for it, as opposed to the opposite...

Anyway, Nintendo improving their hardware is evil and the other first parties jumping in motion controls from dissing them are awesome. Kay.

#15 Posted by Akeldama (4139 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

@ThomasP said:

" @Claude said:
" @Akeldama: I'm not a fool. I'm sorry Nintendo offended you. "
Don't listen to him Claude. He doesn't use logic. "

i think you both should be appreciated for the resident nintendo defenders. God knows they need it.

#16 Posted by Otacon (2112 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

given that the wii will be around for a while yet, I'm fine with an upgrade. I'll probably end up with two motion plus controllers, given that it's supported enough.

#17 Posted by Mikemcn (6802 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

I haven't followed the mini-gyroscope scene in years, but i bet they could have done it when it launched

Online

#18 Posted by WilliamRLBaker (4767 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

and yet promised us the most accurate even 1:1 motion sensing when the wii launched...its still another in a long line of peripherals for the wii the thing has just as many as the sega did in its day yet they are selling...

#19 Posted by Kush (8886 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

I would have to call Miyamoto a liar, but tis just be me. Nintendo decided to launch a console before it was actually "finished" and they managed to get away with it...good for them.

#20 Posted by Claude (15863 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

@Kush said:

" I would have to call Miyamoto a liar, but tis just be me. Nintendo decided to launch a console before it was actually "finished" and they managed to get away with it...good for them. "

He's a designer... what information was given to him was honest. This is what you have to work with... and that's how he looked at it and so, made the games.

To say it was not finished means all the thrills I got from the games I played were nothing. What the fuck is wrong with me? I liked what I had in the first place... but now, it only gets better.

#21 Posted by Kush (8886 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

@Claude: It's all a matter of opinion...I respect those who are fans of the Wii and enjoy playing their Wii. I just personally don't like the system or the way Nintendo has handled the system. In my opinion the lack of WM+ at launch is similar to the RROD issue with 360s...I know that sounds odd to most and most will likely think I'm nuts for saying that, but that is just how I feel about this whole thing.

#22 Posted by CowMuffins (1760 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

I'm just glad you can plug a nunchuk into it.

#23 Edited by Al3xand3r (7574 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

@WilliamRLBaker said:

" and yet promised us the most accurate even 1:1 motion sensing when the wii launched... "

Eh, no they didn't, and saying it every chance you get won't make it true... Lol.

#24 Posted by End_Boss (3216 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

Wait, people have a problem with Motion Plus now?

#25 Posted by Godwind (2597 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

@Akeldama said:

" @Claude said:
" @Lies said:
" @Akeldama said:
" @JeffGoldblum said:
" Excuses, excuses...If Motion Control technology didnt work why did they make a Motion Control Console?Its the same thinking as releasing a broken game and patching it later. "

"
This makes too much sense. "
No, no... there's been some great games on the Wii. Motion Control worked but it had limitations. I've played a shit load of games on the Wii and to say it did not work is wrong. "
no fool. It did not work the way it was supposed to.

"

You expected a good game developed in one month?

Anyways, my theory is that it is to deal with piracy.

#26 Edited by Al3xand3r (7574 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

What's to deal with piracy? Buying an extra accessory to play their pirated games is hardly a hold back... Software's gonna be pirated as normal.

And lol @ judging the Wii/remote by Red Steel... Might as well judge PS360 from something like Sonic 2006 or Beast Rider or Cabela's games.

#27 Posted by Akeldama (4139 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

@Godwind said:

" @Akeldama said:
" @Claude said:
" @Lies said:
" @Akeldama said:
" @JeffGoldblum said:
" Excuses, excuses...If Motion Control technology didnt work why did they make a Motion Control Console?Its the same thinking as releasing a broken game and patching it later. "

"
This makes too much sense. "
No, no... there's been some great games on the Wii. Motion Control worked but it had limitations. I've played a shit load of games on the Wii and to say it did not work is wrong. "
no fool. It did not work the way it was supposed to.

"
You expected a good game developed in one month?Anyways, my theory is that it is to deal with piracy. "

no but i wanted more than 3 in the entire lifespan so far. Wii defenders are hilarious.

#28 Posted by Godwind (2597 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

@Akeldama said:

" @Godwind said:
" @Akeldama said:
" @Claude said:
" @Lies said:
" @Akeldama said:
" @JeffGoldblum said:
" Excuses, excuses...If Motion Control technology didnt work why did they make a Motion Control Console?Its the same thinking as releasing a broken game and patching it later. "

"
This makes too much sense. "
No, no... there's been some great games on the Wii. Motion Control worked but it had limitations. I've played a shit load of games on the Wii and to say it did not work is wrong. "
no fool. It did not work the way it was supposed to.

"
You expected a good game developed in one month?Anyways, my theory is that it is to deal with piracy. "
no but i wanted more than 3 in the entire lifespan so far. Wii defenders are hilarious. "

You hate video games. Cool story Bro.

#29 Posted by Akeldama (4139 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

@Godwind said:

" @Akeldama said:
" @Godwind said:
" @Akeldama said:
" @Claude said:
" @Lies said:
" @Akeldama said:
" @JeffGoldblum said:
" Excuses, excuses...If Motion Control technology didnt work why did they make a Motion Control Console?Its the same thinking as releasing a broken game and patching it later. "

"
This makes too much sense. "
No, no... there's been some great games on the Wii. Motion Control worked but it had limitations. I've played a shit load of games on the Wii and to say it did not work is wrong. "
no fool. It did not work the way it was supposed to.

"
You expected a good game developed in one month?Anyways, my theory is that it is to deal with piracy. "
no but i wanted more than 3 in the entire lifespan so far. Wii defenders are hilarious. "
You hate video games. Cool story Bro. "

i hate casual gimmicks that are passed off for games.

#30 Edited by Al3xand3r (7574 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

Take your trolling elsewhere mr Alignment: Sony, if you want to make a "no gaemz" thread, make one (or click to respond to a related thread, it's even a sticky), don't sneak in unrelated topics to spew bullshit and claim the defenders are hilarious when you as an offender are pathetic...

#31 Posted by Claude (15863 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

@Akeldama: You sir... are the best... and for the first time on the internet, you have proven me wrong... congratulations, you have won the flame war. I never enjoyed my Wii expierience, so therefore, I have lied. Death will will be my solitude.

#32 Posted by ThomasP (1648 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

@Godwind said:

" @Akeldama said:
" @Godwind said:
" @Akeldama said:
" @Claude said:
" @Lies said:
" @Akeldama said:
" @JeffGoldblum said:
" Excuses, excuses...If Motion Control technology didnt work why did they make a Motion Control Console?Its the same thinking as releasing a broken game and patching it later. "

"
This makes too much sense. "
No, no... there's been some great games on the Wii. Motion Control worked but it had limitations. I've played a shit load of games on the Wii and to say it did not work is wrong. "
no fool. It did not work the way it was supposed to.

"
You expected a good game developed in one month?Anyways, my theory is that it is to deal with piracy. "
no but i wanted more than 3 in the entire lifespan so far. Wii defenders are hilarious. "
You hate video games. Cool story Bro. "

I figured I'd come back on later and this guy would be acting like a fanboy. He did this in the Sony forum last night and unfortunately I got caught up in his idiocracy. Not that I was wrong, but I shouldn't have taken the bait. Have yourself a laugh and check it out here. I was telling someone that Zelda Wii was going to utilize motion controls because that person mentioned they wish Zelda had motion controls... then fanboy comes in hard out of left field with some shit about Gears and Killzone. Totally random shit.

#33 Posted by Akeldama (4139 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

@ThomasP said:

" @Godwind said:
" @Akeldama said:
" @Godwind said:
" @Akeldama said:
" @Claude said:
" @Lies said:
" @Akeldama said:
" @JeffGoldblum said:
" Excuses, excuses...If Motion Control technology didnt work why did they make a Motion Control Console?Its the same thinking as releasing a broken game and patching it later. "

"
This makes too much sense. "
No, no... there's been some great games on the Wii. Motion Control worked but it had limitations. I've played a shit load of games on the Wii and to say it did not work is wrong. "
no fool. It did not work the way it was supposed to.

"
You expected a good game developed in one month?Anyways, my theory is that it is to deal with piracy. "
no but i wanted more than 3 in the entire lifespan so far. Wii defenders are hilarious. "
You hate video games. Cool story Bro. "
I figured I'd come back on later and this guy would be acting like a fanboy. He did this in the Sony forum last night and unfortunately I got caught up in his idiocracy. Not that I was wrong, but I shouldn't have taken the bait. Have yourself a laugh and check it out here. I was telling someone that Zelda Wii was going to utilize motion controls because that person mentioned they wish Zelda had motion controls... then fanboy comes in hard out of left field with some shit about Gears and Killzone. Totally random shit. "

wow thomasp you really wanna do this again? Lets go at it again and hijack another thread. What i said was not totally valid and justified. What was totally unwanted and random was your overdefensive attitude and rantings.

#34 Posted by ThomasP (1648 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

@Akeldama: I wouldn't say I was over-defensive at all. I don't defend the Wii. I defend myself when someone ignorantly interrupts civil gaming discussion I'm having with someone else. There is nothing more to do. Thank you for admitting that what you said wasn't valid or justified.

#35 Posted by Linkyshinks (9883 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

Well said.

Dubious claims, but true in essence. Cutting edge technology is always available to the developers, but sometimes it's so on the brink that components are too costly to put into the design and production line. If Wii had such a technology integrated from the start, do you really think consumers would be willing to buy Wii's in the numbers they did, when it would be costing considerably more? I think not.

The Wii has been a huge success and the best selling most profiatble console this generation because of Nintendo's strategy.

#36 Edited by Brendan (6920 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

I think people hating on the Wii are ridiculous, because the Wii is the most incredibly high selling success this generation. I am not even a fan of the Wii and will never own one, but a for profit business that makes that much money off one product has clearly done something right. If it does not involve being for you, then I don't think they care. Also, the arguments that assume Nintendo is lying basically boil down to "Well, they already had the gyroscopes in them, it's not like they were far off...they probably could have just done it if they wanted to...right??". If you can't see how that argument has no basis in technical knowledge or have any actual information, than it's kind of an immature assumption, no?

#37 Posted by ThomasP (1648 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

@Linkyshinks said:

" The Wii has been a huge success and the best selling most profiatble console this generation because of Nintendo's strategy. "

Very true. I really believe Miyamoto knew when the Wii launched that Wii Motion Plus would be coming sometime. And you know what; I'm definitely making that purchase. It's worth it for just Wii Sports Resort IMO... and them talking about implementing updated archery and sword play in the next Zelda is pretty exciting, as well.

#38 Posted by imhuntad (310 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

It seems like a decent reply to those who whined about it not being included at launch. At least they didn't say it was gonna be Wii Motion plus at launch and not deliver. Still...N needs to catch up and add some more functionality in the Wii. A bit more Inet Support and media playback, etc.

#39 Edited by Linkyshinks (9883 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

@WilliamRLBaker said:

" and yet promised us the most accurate even 1:1 motion sensing when the wii launched...its still another in a long line of peripherals for the wii the thing has just as many as the sega did in its day yet they are selling... "

What, they promised us nothing at all, Nintendo never made any statements referring to 1:1 control, ever, If you bought your old Wii on the back of that assumption, well that's pretty stupid.

Whenever I buy a console I make a habit of knowing as much as I can about it, every single detail. The Wii.com official site had all the information about the console and it's aims for all to see.

#40 Posted by Godwind (2597 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

@Akeldama: Your just bat shit crazy at this point. You really haven't made strong points to why the Wii Motion Plus was a bad idea.

#41 Posted by LordAndrew (13849 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

@WilliamRLBaker said:

" and yet promised us the most accurate even 1:1 motion sensing when the wii launched...its still another in a long line of peripherals for the wii the thing has just as many as the sega did in its day yet they are selling... "

I don't recall Nintendo ever making that claim. Sure people were hoping for that, and some developers like to claim that's what their games are offering, but Nintendo never tried to tell people that the Wii offered 1:1 motion sensing.
Never.

#42 Posted by brukaoru (5078 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago

It may or may not be true that they couldn't offer 1:1 motion sensing until now, but the bottom line is that a complete controller for the Wii is now at $80... That price just doesn't set well with me.

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The Nintendo Wii is a home video game console released on November 19, 2006. The Wii's main selling point was the innovative use of motion controls that its signature Wii Remote and Nunchuk controllers allowed for. It became the best selling home console of its respective generation of hardware.

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