Do Wizards and Mages Have Equal F****d Up-ness Detection?

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#1 Edited By nintendoeats

So me and Kyreo were discussing the validity of somehow associating "I'm a wizard and that is fucked up" with this here avatar. No specific plans yet, but first we need to decide if it is appropriate or not.

Now, Wikipedia files mages and wizards under the same heading, but of course you can't trust anything on Wikipedia. We need experts on the case, so I turn to you GB community. Do mages and wizards have equal authority when it comes to fucked-upness? If that red mage said "I'm a mage and that is fucked up," would you in fact accept that it is, indeed, fucked up?

I'm tempted to say yes but given that Final Fantasy tends towards mages, and Square-Enix is one of the worlds top producers of fucked up stuff, we might not be able to trust them quite as much. It would help if we could define what the exact difference between a mage and a wizard is. FUCKED-UP THINGS EXPERTS GO!

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#2 Edited By Kyreo

I fee like if gandalf the Grey told me that something was fucked up and a Red Mage said it was cool, I would trust Gandalf, despite my love for red mages.

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#3 Edited By Enigma777

Mages are just gay wizards so they can't be fucked up, only fabulous.

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#4 Edited By Kyreo

@Enigma777 said:

Mages are just gay wizards.

Why don't you jump on Star Craft and say that shit agian! I will fuck you up >:3

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#5 Edited By AlexW00d

Mages and wizards are different. Any prick who knows magic can me a mage; but a wizard has to be a wizened grey bearded badass motherfucker.

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#6 Edited By Enigma777

@Kyreo said:

@Enigma777 said:
Mages are just gay wizards.
Why don't you jump on Star Craft and say that shit agian! I will fuck you up >:3

Alright! We'll do it right now! I'm signing on as we speak!

12 years ago

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#7 Edited By EvilTwin

I tend to think of wizards as wiser than mages. Gandalf, Merlin, and Dumbledore were all wizards for example.

So I would definitely trust a wizard more than a mage to tell me if something is fucked up.

12 years ago

waitwhat

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#8 Edited By waitwhat

this falls under the category of similarities/differences between wizards and mages. try to keep this in one thread please.

http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/general-discussion/30/is-there-a-difference-between-a-mage-and-a-wizard/496240/#9

backseat modding ftw

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#9 Edited By NegativeCero

I would say they have the same authority, because if they don't, where would you place sages, warlocks, or other magical dudes? It would be too confusing.

12 years ago

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#10 Edited By Kyreo

@Enigma777 said:

@Kyreo said:
@Enigma777 said:
Mages are just gay wizards.
Why don't you jump on Star Craft and say that shit agian! I will fuck you up >:3
Alright! We'll do it right now! I'm signing on as we speak!

ALRIGHT! Let's do this!

12 years ago

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#11 Edited By Yanngc33

No, wizards know more

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#12 Edited By bellmont42

HEY GUYS CAN I PLAY TOO?!

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Kyreo

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#13 Edited By Kyreo

@waitwhat said:

this falls under the category of similarities/differences between wizards and mages. try to keep this in one thread please.

http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/general-discussion/30/is-there-a-difference-between-a-mage-and-a-wizard/496240/#9

backseat modding ftw

Nah dude... this is a totally different topic. We're talking about Fuckededness detection here.

12 years ago

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#14 Edited By deactivated-5ba16609964d9

Does it depend on the type of mage ? Would a Black Mage have a easier time telling if something is fucked more then a White, Blue, or Red Mage? What about Summoners, Warlocks, Sorcerers, Conjurers, and Sages?
What if you are Wizard with an elemental specialty like Fire or Ice does that affect your ability to tell if something fucked up ?

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#15 Edited By AlmostSwedish

Let's beak this down:

Mage: 4 letters
Wizard: 6 letters, two of which are "z" and "w", commonly known to be among the coolest letters in the alphabet.

There you have it, white on black.

12 years ago

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#16 Edited By waitwhat

@Kyreo: it's still a similarity/difference. do they have similar levels, different levels, different types of fucked-upness detection, etc.

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#17 Edited By Jimbo

It only works if you have a beard and a pointy hat, and if a mage had a beard and a pointy hat then they'd be a wizard.

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#18 Edited By nintendoeats

@Yanngc33 said:

No wizards, know more

And now it's a rap.

Wizard's might know more, but do they know more about fucked up-ness? The flipside to my argument would be that because mages are around fucked-upness all the time, they know more about it.

And why do Wizards know more? Do mages turn into Wizards when they know more than other mages, or do you people who train to be wizards just know more than mages? Do you have to pick a specialty in Wizard early on?

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#19 Edited By jaycee13

Since I have read so many pdfs on exorcism, sexual alchemy and satanism, you could consider me a fucked up mage. I think wizards are those who have studied magic officially where as mages have studied and practiced magic of their own accord.

12 years ago

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#20 Edited By Vorbis

Sorcerers > Wizards > Mages > Neophytes

In that order.

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#21 Edited By management

Mages and Wizards can detect different levels of fucked upness. A mage can be anyone who knows magic so they can detect fucked upness but not to the degree that a wizard can.

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#22 Edited By nintendoeats

@waitwhat: It's like the difference between a thread comparing Halo with Killzone, and comparing the assault rifles in Halo and Killzone. One might technically fall under the other, but they are two completely different discussions.

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#23 Edited By Ramone

I seem to have the reverse of the opinion of a lot of people here. I see Harry Potter as a Wizard and Gandalf as a Mage. Wizards are the pussies of the magic world, they don't know shit and their fucked up-ness detection is minimal whereas Mages are some raw dog motherfuckers, they die and they just come back with a different cloak and some badass spells and take on fucking dragons and shit AND they have fucking beards. The combination of all this means their street smarts and fucked up-ness detection is some high level shit. They know when Aragon and King Rohan are about to get fucked up and then they charge down a 90 degree incline to introduce some of their own fucked up-ness on some ugly ass orcs, also they got giant ass eagles and even wizards know that shit's fucked up. In conclusion Mages > Wizards in terms of fucked up-ness detection every day of the week. Potter ain't got shit.

12 years ago

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#24 Edited By waitwhat

@nintendoeats: a discussion comparing the assault rifles in halo and killzone is comparing halo with killzone. this is like the pc screenshot thread that was locked because of the video game screenshot thread.

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#25 Edited By nintendoeats

@Management: are there perhaps different types of fucked-upness, and might a mage better at detecting some of them? For example:

If somebody is looking at child pornography that is FUCKED. UP.

If somebody writes something down wrong then they fucked up.

Then there is everything in Bayonetta...man, that game is so fucked up.

I'm sure there are other kinds, but mightn't mages be better at detecting that last kind? I mean, they are more layed back right? They would probably be all like, dude, that's fucked up.

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#27 Edited By Yanngc33

@nintendoeats said:

@Yanngc33 said:
No wizards, know more
And now it's a rap.Wizard's might know more, but do they know more about fucked up-ness? The flipside to my argument would be that because mages are around fucked-upness all the time, they know more about it.And why do Wizards know more? Do mages turn into Wizards when they know more than other mages, or do you people who train to be wizards just know more than mages? Do you have to pick a specialty in Wizard early on?

Whoops, screwed that post up, I mean mages know more than wizards

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#28 Edited By nintendoeats

@billnyethesciencepie: 0_0
Must...convince...Kyreo...to do this...

@Yanngc33:
So what you meant was:

No mages, Know more.

Must...write...this...song...

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#29 Edited By Yanngc33

@nintendoeats: Yes mages always know more

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#30 Edited By management

@nintendoeats: Mages can detect fucked upness to a degree, while wizards can detect all sorts of fucked upness.

If you need a guy to notify you if a thing is fucked up, a mage is usually enough. But if you stumble over some high-level fucked upness you are going to need a wizard.

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#31 Edited By Enigma777

@Kyreo said:

@Enigma777 said:
@Kyreo said:
@Enigma777 said:
Mages are just gay wizards.
Why don't you jump on Star Craft and say that shit agian! I will fuck you up >:3
Alright! We'll do it right now! I'm signing on as we speak!
ALRIGHT! Let's do this!

Grr! I hate you and your nidus wormness

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#32 Edited By nintendoeats

@Management: Ok, got it. So what do mages get in exchange?

EDIT: As in, why would somebody choose to be a mage instead of a wizard?

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#33 Edited By Sarkhan

Yes!
That is all.
Strap it on.

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#34 Edited By management

@nintendoeats: Nothing, they are inferior to wizards.

The only thing you might argue is that most mages are younger, which I look at as a positive thing.

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#35 Edited By Kyreo

@Enigma777 said:

@Kyreo said:
@Enigma777 said:
@Kyreo said:
@Enigma777 said:
Mages are just gay wizards.
Why don't you jump on Star Craft and say that shit agian! I will fuck you up >:3
Alright! We'll do it right now! I'm signing on as we speak!
ALRIGHT! Let's do this!
Grr! I hate you and your nidus wormness

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#36 Edited By Kyreo

@nintendoeats said:

@billnyethesciencepie: 0_0
Must...convince...Kyreo...to do this...

@Yanngc33: So what you meant was:No mages, Know more.Must...write...this...song...

I will NOT wear a dildo hat.

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#37 Edited By nintendoeats

@Kyreo: No no no...Brad is wearing the dildo hat. They are your possy. You drag them around with you to make you look cool. Red MAge is all like UH! I OWN THESE DUDERS.

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#38 Edited By TehFlan

@Jonny7892 said:

I seem to have the reverse of the opinion of a lot of people here. I see Harry Potter as a Wizard and Gandalf as a Mage. Wizards are the pussies of the magic world, they don't know shit and their fucked up-ness detection is minimal whereas Mages are some raw dog motherfuckers, they die and they just come back with a different cloak and some badass spells and take on fucking dragons and shit AND they have fucking beards. The combination of all this means their street smarts and fucked up-ness detection is some high level shit. They know when Aragon and King Rohan are about to get fucked up and then they charge down a 90 degree incline to introduce some of their own fucked up-ness on some ugly ass orcs, also they got giant ass eagles and even wizards know that shit's fucked up. In conclusion Mages > Wizards in terms of fucked up-ness detection every day of the week. Potter ain't got shit.

While I see this the opposite way you do, and would therefore classify Harry Potter as a mage and Gandalf as a wizard, I must say that this post made my day.

12 years ago