Comparison between Xbox and X360

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#1 Posted by Arkthemaniac (6535 posts) -

I didn't realize this until I was playing my Xbox this weekend (Morrowind, to be exact), but the Xbox has more wired controller ports, has a more stable disc drive and is quieter than the Xbox 360.

This makes me mad, because it seems like Microsoft spent way too much time with the graphics and online capabilities for the 360, rather than make a piece of hardware that was overall improved over its predecessor.

#2 Posted by Nerje (59 posts) -

I think you're nuts.

The wired ports are not an issue because you have the better option of wireless controllers.  I don't know about the noise issue either... maybe the more recent Xboxes were quieter but the very first ones to come out unleashed a death hum that could kill native wildlife, and rattle windows out of their frames.

Anyway, would you rather better graphics, or a more silent machine with outdated tech?

I think Microsoft's priorities were in the right place.

#3 Posted by Sentry (4197 posts) -

I actually think the Xbox was a pretty well built machine, quality I mean. But yeah, it's just a sacrifice they had to make in order to get the console out early, thats all.

#4 Posted by Arkthemaniac (6535 posts) -
Nerje said:
"I think you're nuts.

The wired ports are not an issue because you have the better option of wireless controllers.  I don't know about the noise issue either... maybe the more recent Xboxes were quieter but the very first ones to come out unleashed a death hum that could kill native wildlife, and rattle windows out of their frames.

Anyway, would you rather better graphics, or a more silent machine with outdated tech?

I think Microsoft's priorities were in the right place."
I wish I had both great graphics along with little noise, but I would rather sacrifice graphics than noise. Also, the 360 produce anomalous amounts of heat. Because of this along with the noise factor, I can't really play it for more than an hour or so in my gaming area because the heat and noise become unbearable.

For someone who enjoys marathon sessions of GTA3 and Morrowind, it comes as a disappointment.
#5 Posted by AndrewGaspar (2418 posts) -

Why were you playing Morrowind on your regular Xbox? Morrowind runs on the 360 now.

#6 Posted by Sentry (4197 posts) -
Nerje said:
"Anyway, would you rather better graphics, or a more silent machine with outdated tech?"
But that wasn't the sacrifice at all. They could have done both, if they had taken more time to get the hardware right. But again, they main goal for them was to release the machine as soon as possible ahead of all other next gen systems, which they eventually paid the price for.
#7 Posted by BestUsernameEver (4825 posts) -

I think the 360 is better than the original XBOX in all aspects. At least the latter 360s anyway.

#8 Posted by dum41 (26 posts) -

Eh, its not THAT loud so that'd you notice while playing, is it? Of course, unless you were playing while on mute or something. Otherwise I really like the 360 as a console and have no problems with the hardware. Unless it red ringed on me.

#9 Posted by Vinchenzo (6192 posts) -

I haven't regret my 360 purchase yet.
PS3 on the other hand...

#10 Posted by normajean777 (450 posts) -

i regret my purchase
the ps3 on the other hand.........

#11 Edited by wefwefasdf (6729 posts) -
Vinchenzo said:
"I haven't regret my 360 purchase yet.
PS3 on the other hand..."
normajean777 said:
"i regret my purchase
the ps3 on the other hand........."
I regret you two joining the forum...
The 360's noise really does bother me. Because I play on my computer monitor I sit pretty close to where both my 360 and monitor are and it is pretty loud. If I wear my headphones I don't mind though.
#12 Posted by Sentry (4197 posts) -

What a surprise...

#13 Edited by BiffMcBlumpkin (3720 posts) -
Arkthemaniac said:
"Xbox has more wired controller ports."
What? Who cares?

And the DVD drive in the original XBox is quieter a
#14 Posted by Demyx (3237 posts) -
BiffMcBlumpkin said:
"Arkthemaniac said:
"Xbox has more wired controller ports."
What? Who cares?

And the DVD drive in the original XBox is quieter and more "Stable" (although I'm not sure what you mean by this) because it had a much lower drive speed - meaning the drive in the original had to spin the disc around at a much slower rate and was thus generally quieter."
isn't there an earlier 360 that has wired controllers? maybe he has that one.

AndrewGaspar said:
"Why were you playing Morrowind on your regular Xbox? Morrowind runs on the 360 now."

probably a save still on the Xbox.

they really had to choose between fixing its problems, or releasing it before its opponents.

#15 Edited by BiffMcBlumpkin (3720 posts) -
Demyx said:
"BiffMcBlumpkin said:
"Arkthemania
#16 Posted by wefwefasdf (6729 posts) -

You can also use the one on the back . ;-)

#17 Edited by BlindEffekt (917 posts) -

Wow, people need to stop pondering about there outdated machines, and start fucking enjoying what xbox360 has to offer.
So what xbox was rushed? I have a launch model and its still working fine, playing soul calibur as i write this.
Its loud, but i happen to listen to the tv rather then put my ear near the xbox and soak in some machinery noises.

#18 Posted by Sentry (4197 posts) -
BlindEffekt said:
"Wow, people need to stop pondering about there outdated machines, and start fucking enjoying what xbox360 has to offer.
So what xbox was rushed? I have a launch model and its still working fine, playing soul calibur as i write this.
Its loud, but i happen to listen to the tv rather then put my ear near the xbox and soak in some machinery noises.

To be honest, stop playing your xbox past your bedtime, and your parents wont hear it."
I think that's being a little harsh, to be honest... Ok, thats great, you have a launch system that is still working (according to you), but that doesn't change the fact that thousands and thousands our there DO have a problem, you just can't say "who cares" about that. People can never complain about the flaws of a system (whatever system that may be)?
#19 Posted by BlindEffekt (917 posts) -

Its not harsh, wherever i go on Giantbomb, theres always someone moaning about the Xbox.
They could easily post there.
And as for the ( according to you ) crap, i could take a photo if need be.
And if the thousands of people have problems, i believe theres a little something called customer support.

#20 Posted by Sentry (4197 posts) -

It is harsh, because of the tone you are using, and just generally being aggressive when people might be discussing an issue that is a prominent one, its a fact.

And what I mean with the 'according to you crap', was that your system is still working, I didnt make that up, its according to you, you said it. That's what i meant.

If thousands of people have problems, does calling customer support make the problem non existent? Nope. It's still a problem whether you like it or not, and if you see people discussing this problem, then just don't join the discussion if you don't have to deal with the issue, simple as that.

#21 Posted by BlindEffekt (917 posts) -

The thread title is "comparison between xbox and xbox360".
Yet we have these comments

normajean777 said:

"i regret my purchase
the ps3 on the other hand........."
So as much as you think im the one bashing the topic around, it was already messed up before i posted.
And please don't tell me you havent seen the exact same topic somewhere else on giantbomb?




#22 Posted by Sentry (4197 posts) -
BlindEffekt said:
"The thread title is "comparison between xbox and xbox360".
Yet we have these comments

normajean777 said:
"i regret my purchase
the ps3 on the other hand........."
So as much as you think im the one bashing the topic around, it was already messed up before i posted.
And please don't tell me you havent seen the exact same topic somewhere else on giantbomb?"
*sigh*

Too bad he was being sarcastic/joking, in response to the previous post... did you not read the post before him?:

Vinchenzo said:
"I haven't regret my 360 purchase yet.
PS3 on the other hand..."

So first you whine at people who have complaints against the 360s hardware, and then your turn it around and say there are fanboys in this thread, which is completely not what you were even complaining about to begin with... don't flip flop what you are whining about, especially when it is invalid.
#23 Posted by BlindEffekt (917 posts) -

Haha fail. I'm saying, don't accuse me of being the only one misleading and not helping in this thread.
Of course thousands of people have problems with their consoles, Every console has its pluses and negatives.
People have to understand this, and get on with enjoying it.
Bitching about it wont make your xbox terraform into a perfect console.

#24 Posted by Sentry (4197 posts) -
BlindEffekt said:
"Haha fail. I'm saying, don't accuse me of being the only one misleading and not helping in this thread.
Of course thousands of people have problems with their consoles, Every console has its pluses and negatives.
People have to understand this, and get on with enjoying it.
Bitching about it wont make your xbox terraform into a perfect console.
"
Lol, im not accusing you of anything, just saying that you really can't blame people for discussing a topic like this when it really is a fact.

No one is blindly bitching and flaming 360, just saying how and why would the original have better hardware then its successor? Shouldn't things be getting better in terms of hardware as they move on?

So no one is saying there are no pluses to the system, or that this is such a huge problem that the system is one big epic fail; no. It's just something that MATTERS and if some people want to discuss it you really cannot blame them.
#25 Posted by Arkthemaniac (6535 posts) -
AndrewGaspar said:
"Why were you playing Morrowind on your regular Xbox? Morrowind runs on the 360 now."
Wow. Just wow.

I'm using my original Xbox because of the reasons I JUST LISTED. IT'S QUIETER AND DOESN'T GET AS HOT. Also, Xbox games on the 360 run like crap, at least the ones I've tried. Also, I don't like wasting batteries on my 360 controllers, because batteries are expensive.

BiffMcBlumpkin said:
"Demyx said:
"BiffMcBlumpkin said:
"Arkthemaniac said:
"Xbox has more wired controller ports."
What? Who cares?

And the DVD drive in the original XBox is quieter and more "Stable" (although I'm not sure what you mean by this) because it had a much lower drive speed - meaning the drive in the original had to spin the disc around at a much slower rate and was thus generally quieter."
isn't there an earlier 360 that has wired controllers? maybe he has that one."

My 360 has a couple wired controller ports as well (Hell at least one, I know because I use a wired 360 controller, I  prefer wired to wireless as a general rule because of the no recharging thing, but I believe it's two. I even bought a long PS3-style USB cable so my PS3 controller is constantly plugged in)

I was just wondering.... why would he need 4 wired controller slots on the 360 (as the original XBox had?)

The reason the original XBox had that many was because that was when online play for consoles was still in relative infancy - the original Halo wasn't even on Live. It was either LAN or turning the screen into multiple small cubes on one TV to play it multi... all huddled together.

With Live and the state of multiplayer gaming as it is today I can't imagine any scenario for any game on the 360 that would require that many wired ports (more than two as the 360 has) - any scenario."
Well, if it had more controller ports, then we wouldn't have to put up with that dumb as hell Rock Band port thing that allows for 4 controllers plugged in at once. Also, as a side note, why does that need it's own power adapter?

But, the point of me bringing this up isn't to say, "OMG teh xbox fanboizorz are teh dumb lol." It's to bring up my frustrations with the console and to see if you had the same frustrations, because no one seems to ever have any legitimate criticisms for the console, except for, you know, the Wii and Sony fanboys riding the RRoD train until they reach Dodge. I've enjoyed the original Xbox more than the 360, partly because of these very reasons. Local multiplayer on the console is sparse (unless I want to play Halo 3, which I'm sorry, but I'm not ready for that kind of recycling), and it really does act as a radiator for my game room, producing more heat than my computer and Wii combined. I know that everyone and their mom thinks that the Xbox 360 is the superior console, but how can it be the best console when it is worse than its predecessor?

Does this console race really suck THAT much ass?
#26 Posted by Major (506 posts) -
normajean777 said:
"i regret my purchase
the ps3 on the other hand........."
Obvious troll is obvious.

I honestly have no problem with the noise of the 360.. I can usually tone it out.
#27 Posted by Sentry (4197 posts) -
Major said:
"normajean777 said:
"i regret my purchase
the ps3 on the other hand........."
Obvious troll is obvious.

I honestly have no problem with the noise of the 360.. I can usually tone it out."
Sentry said:
"He was being sarcastic/joking, in response to the previous post... did you not read the post before him?:

Vinchenzo said:
"I haven't regret my 360 purchase yet.
PS3 on the other hand..."
#28 Posted by BiffMcBlumpkin (3720 posts) -
Arkthemaniac said:
"Does this console race really suck THAT much ass?"

If you're willing to overlook the shitload of killer games, sure.
#29 Posted by Arkthemaniac (6535 posts) -
BiffMcBlumpkin said:
"Arkthemaniac said:
"Does this console race really suck THAT much ass?"

If you're willing to overlook the shitload of killer games, sure."
Yeah, I guess it's the games that matter. I'd probably put up with the technical deficiencies if I had some games to play. I only have 6, because they're so expensive, and GameFly is hell bent on making sure my gaming experience is ALL Nintendo.
#30 Posted by Major (506 posts) -
Sentry said:
"Major said:
"normajean777 said:
"i regret my purchase
the ps3 on the other hand........."
Obvious troll is obvious.

I honestly have no problem with the noise of the 360.. I can usually tone it out."
Sentry said:
"He was being sarcastic/joking, in response to the previous post... did you not read the post before him?:

Vinchenzo said:
"I haven't regret my 360 purchase yet.
PS3 on the other hand..."
"
Nothing ever gets past you, Sentry.
#31 Posted by Sentry (4197 posts) -
Major said:
"Sentry said:
"Major said:
"normajean777 said:
"i regret my purchase
the ps3 on the other hand........."
Obvious troll is obvious.

I honestly have no problem with the noise of the 360.. I can usually tone it out."
Sentry said:
"He was being sarcastic/joking, in response to the previous post... did you not read the post before him?:

Vinchenzo said:
"I haven't regret my 360 purchase yet.
PS3 on the other hand..."
"
Nothing ever gets past you, Sentry."
Hah, you know it.
#32 Posted by BiffMcBlumpkin (3720 posts) -

I don't use GameFly, so I don't really know what's going on there. I do have all three systems this time though, and I can't say I'm really let down by any of them (being that I survived the 32X addon, Jaguar, etc. days of true money black holes that I so looked forward to, worked like Hell to get, and tried so hard to actually enjoy. Futility.)

And the games aren't really any more expensive than they've always been. Adjusted for inflation they were more expensive 10 / 15 years ago than they are today, and a few games like Chrono Trigger were insanely expensive back then, like 70 bucks (let alone sitting there wanting to own Neo-Geo homecarts and a home console... wanting to play games with your buddies at home that you poured quarters upon quarters into in the arcades.... while the ads for the AES in magazines taunted you. That shit was a pipe dream in those days.) It's pretty streamlined an manageable today if anything, somehow less "exotic" though because of it.

It can get expensive though. Does suck, but you gotta pay to play, has always been that way.

#33 Posted by BlackSuitAndTie9 (289 posts) -

The Xbox 360 is leagues better than the original, they basically improved upon virtually everything with it. Also, you're complaining about ports? The 360 doesn't need ports because you use wireless controllers, so that argument is pointless.

#34 Posted by Arkthemaniac (6535 posts) -
BlackSuitAndTie9 said:
"The Xbox 360 is leagues better than the original, they basically improved upon virtually everything with it. Also, you're complaining about ports? The 360 doesn't need ports because you use wireless controllers, so that argument is pointless."
Well, I once knocked over my Xbox, and the disc inside was fine. I once slid my 360 on the carpet about 4 to 5 inches, and now the game is busted. So there's one thing that wasn't improved...

Keep in mind I'M NOT SAYING I HATE THE SYSTEM. It's just that there's flaws. No one has yet brought them up, so I took the liberty.
#35 Posted by Jolly_Lolly (3537 posts) -

Yeah the original Xbox was built like a tank, never had a single problem with it.

#36 Posted by Residentrevil2 (437 posts) -

Well, at least the 360 looks better.  I remember the first time I saw the original Xbox I laughed. 

 

The only real problem the original Xbox had though was the Hard Drives and disc drives failing.  That is what made me forget the Xbox and pick up the 360. 

 

Does anyone remember the fake name your Xbox was assigned whenever you looked it up in Halo?  I think mine was named George.        
#37 Posted by LightYagami245 (1117 posts) -
Arkthemaniac said:
"AndrewGaspar said:
"Why were you playing Morrowind on your regular Xbox? Morrowind runs on the 360 now."
Wow. Just wow.

I'm using my original Xbox because of the reasons I JUST LISTED. IT'S QUIETER AND DOESN'T GET AS HOT. Also, Xbox games on the 360 run like crap, at least the ones I've tried. Also, I don't like wasting batteries on my 360 controllers, because batteries are expensive.


Get the Play and Charge kit. It's very inexpensive.
#38 Posted by Vinchenzo (6192 posts) -
SpikeSpiegel said:
"Vinchenzo said:
"I haven't regret my 360 purchase yet.
PS3 on the other hand..."
normajean777 said:
"i regret my purchase
the ps3 on the other hand........."
I regret you two joining the forum...
The 360's noise really does bother me. Because I play on my computer monitor I sit pretty close to where both my 360 and monitor are and it is pretty loud. If I wear my headphones I don't mind though.
"
You guys really overreacted to my comment.

Firstly, Spike, get over yourself.

Secondly, my comment was a personal opinion which I did not detail upon.

The original Xbox at first I was reluctant to buy. But the PS2 was a no-brainer. Then the next-gen era consoles come out, and the tables were turned. Xbox 360 was the no-brainer and PS3 was the questionable system to me. Xbox 360 is a million times better than the original; any heating problems you have are resolved by proper ventilation, and I can't live without the guide button.

I feel, in response to the original poster, that the disc drive (and if I'm correct this is about circle scratches right?) is fine, you just have to be placing the system correctly. As for wired ports, it's fine with 2 because I prefer wireless controllers on my 360. And the sound -- you don't hear anything when playing the actual games.
#39 Posted by wefwefasdf (6729 posts) -
Vinchenzo said:
"SpikeSpiegel said:
"Vinchenzo said:
"I haven't regret my 360 purchase yet.
PS3 on the other hand..."
normajean777 said:
"i regret my purchase
the ps3 on the other hand........."
I regret you two joining the forum...
The 360's noise really does bother me. Because I play on my computer monitor I sit pretty close to where both my 360 and monitor are and it is pretty loud. If I wear my headphones I don't mind though.
"
You guys really overreacted to my comment.

Firstly, Spike, get over yourself.

Secondly, my comment was a personal opinion which I did not detail upon.

The original Xbox at first I was reluctant to buy. But the PS2 was a no-brainer. Then the next-gen era consoles come out, and the tables were turned. Xbox 360 was the no-brainer and PS3 was the questionable system to me. Xbox 360 is a million times better than the original; any heating problems you have are resolved by proper ventilation, and I can't live without the guide button.

I feel, in response to the original poster, that the disc drive (and if I'm correct this is about circle scratches right?) is fine, you just have to be placing the system correctly. As for wired ports, it's fine with 2 because I prefer wireless controllers on my 360. And the sound -- you don't hear anything when playing the actual games."
I was just trying to be funny. ;-) I am a nice person, honest.
#40 Posted by BlindEffekt (917 posts) -
Arkthemaniac said:
"BlackSuitAndTie9 said:
"The Xbox 360 is leagues better than the original, they basically improved upon virtually everything with it. Also, you're complaining about ports? The 360 doesn't need ports because you use wireless controllers, so that argument is pointless."
Well, I once knocked over my Xbox, and the disc inside was fine. I once slid my 360 on the carpet about 4 to 5 inches, and now the game is busted. So there's one thing that wasn't improved...

Keep in mind I'M NOT SAYING I HATE THE SYSTEM. It's just that there's flaws. No one has yet brought them up, so I took the liberty."
I don't think they had people bashing their console in mind when they were creating the xbox man.
#41 Posted by shadowjak (456 posts) -
Nerje said:
"I think you're nuts.

The wired ports are not an issue because you have the better option of wireless controllers.  I don't know about the noise issue either... maybe the more recent Xboxes were quieter but the very first ones to come out unleashed a death hum that could kill native wildlife, and rattle windows out of their frames.

Anyway, would you rather better graphics, or a more silent machine with outdated tech?

I think Microsoft's priorities were in the right place."

I agree. The 360 is a 100% improvement from the orignal xbox, especially in terms of games and xbox live
#42 Posted by Sentry (4197 posts) -
shadowjak said:
"Nerje said:
"I think you're nuts.

The wired ports are not an issue because you have the better option of wireless controllers.  I don't know about the noise issue either... maybe the more recent Xboxes were quieter but the very first ones to come out unleashed a death hum that could kill native wildlife, and rattle windows out of their frames.

Anyway, would you rather better graphics, or a more silent machine with outdated tech?

I think Microsoft's priorities were in the right place."

I agree. The 360 is a 100% improvement from the orignal xbox, especially in terms of games and xbox live"
I think we are talking about HARDWARE improvements (or lack there of), not SOFTWARE improvements, which undoubtedly improved, of course.
#43 Posted by crunchUK (5963 posts) -

in my opinion i have never felt cables that are as great as the xbox 1 ones

#44 Edited by BlindEffekt (917 posts) -

o_O i don't really feel my cables, so i cant comment

#45 Posted by shadowjak (456 posts) -
Sentry said:
"shadowjak said:
"Nerje said:
"I think you're nuts.

The wired ports are not an issue because you have the better option of wireless controllers.  I don't know about the noise issue either... maybe the more recent Xboxes were quieter but the very first ones to come out unleashed a death hum that could kill native wildlife, and rattle windows out of their frames.

Anyway, would you rather better graphics, or a more silent machine with outdated tech?

I think Microsoft's priorities were in the right place."

I agree. The 360 is a 100% improvement from the orignal xbox, especially in terms of games and xbox live"
I think we are talking about HARDWARE improvements (or lack there of), not SOFTWARE improvements, which undoubtedly improved, of course."

I meant amount of software when I said that because your hardware can be godlike but without good software it'll blow *cough*wii*cough* but we all knew that. Hardwarewise it has still improved full circle. Wireless controllers are more free and fun, the ports are just if you don't feel like paying $10 for a wireless, but at that priceo f only probably being able to do split screen or 3 players at most.  I mentioned xbox live because let's face it, without live the system would blow, on the original xbox live wasn't that great, it improved 100% here which was worth not having an extra controller port.
#46 Posted by LightYagami245 (1117 posts) -
shadowjak said:
"Sentry said:
"shadowjak said:
"Nerje said:
"I think you're nuts.

The wired ports are not an issue because you have the better option of wireless controllers.  I don't know about the noise issue either... maybe the more recent Xboxes were quieter but the very first ones to come out unleashed a death hum that could kill native wildlife, and rattle windows out of their frames.

Anyway, would you rather better graphics, or a more silent machine with outdated tech?

I think Microsoft's priorities were in the right place."

I agree. The 360 is a 100% improvement from the orignal xbox, especially in terms of games and xbox live"
I think we are talking about HARDWARE improvements (or lack there of), not SOFTWARE improvements, which undoubtedly improved, of course."

I meant amount of software when I said that because your hardware can be godlike but without good software it'll blow *cough*wii*cough* but we all knew that. Hardwarewise it has still improved full circle. Wireless controllers are more free and fun, the ports are just if you don't feel like paying $10 for a wireless, but at that priceo f only probably being able to do split screen or 3 players at most.  I mentioned xbox live because let's face it, without live the system would blow, on the original xbox live wasn't that great, it improved 100% here which was worth not having an extra controller port."
I agree with you. Before, I wasn't interested in the first Xbox, but the 360 improved on the things that made me uninterested in it's predecessor.
#47 Posted by Iraqi_Gangster (107 posts) -

At least there wasn't The Red Circle of Death on the old XBOX.

#48 Posted by BlindEffekt (917 posts) -
Iraqi_Gangster said:
"At least there wasn't The Red Circle of Death on the old XBOX."
Lol you make a good point
#49 Posted by LightYagami245 (1117 posts) -
Iraqi_Gangster said:
"At least there wasn't The Red Circle of Death on the old XBOX."
Good point, but the first Xbox wasn't rushed though, so it's understandable.
#50 Posted by dabear (20 posts) -
Arkthemaniac said:
"I didn't realize this until I was playing my Xbox this weekend (Morrowind, to be exact), but the Xbox has more wired controller ports, has a more stable disc drive and is quieter than the Xbox 360.

This makes me mad, because it seems like Microsoft spent way too much time with the graphics and online capabilities for the 360, rather than make a piece of hardware that was overall improved over its predecessor."
And, it was more reliable.  I still have my launch XBox.  I am on my 3rd 360.

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