Is it just me, or did I just have the best idea ever?

#1 Posted by Shadow (4980 posts) -

Watching the Endurence Run got me thinking.  If I were to play Persona 4, I wouldn't enjoy it NEARLY as much as I'm enjoying just watching Jeff and Vinny, just because the commentary amplifies anything even remotely funny in the game itself.  That made me realize:  Xbox Live should have a feature that lets anyone in your chat party have streaming to their system, everything you're doing on yours.  So you can perfectly emulate the classic feeling of a group of people sitting in a room, watching someone play a single player game.  I don't know about you, but I remember some good times just sitting with a group of my friends, watching someone play Super Mario RPG while we all commented on what was happening.  Past that though, you no longer have to go at lengths to describe to someone who has never played it, how cool the game you're playing is.  And since they're not playing themselves, it's not like any of the game's publishers are missing out on sales they would have gotten from the other people in the party just watching it.  In fact, if anything, it would boost sales of the more obscure games that the other people watching maybe haven't even heard of.  This sounds like it would be a win, win, win situation for everyone involved.  Am I the only one who thinks this needs to happen?

#2 Posted by Hexpane (1397 posts) -

The XBL servers would explode if they tried to implement this.  NIce idea tho I personally am not into MST3K for games, I can see where a lot of people would enjoy it., just like MST3K had a lot of fans.

Somehow I predict it would devolve into a lot of racist trash talk, or Soulja Boi telling you about his expensive shirts.

#3 Posted by bekern (563 posts) -

IDK how much people would want to do that when they have their own 360s to play right in front of them. Maybe if it was a bit more interactive, like if people were able to point things out to you or something? Kind of along the line of how in Mario Galaxy when a second player could have a cursor, but they really couldn't do much.
It might be kind of cool though if strangers would join in just to check some games out. Or knowing how people are over XBL it might be horrible lol.

#4 Posted by Shadow (4980 posts) -
Hexpane said:
"The XBL servers would explode if they tried to implement this.  NIce idea tho I personally am not into MST3K for games, I can see where a lot of people would enjoy it., just like MST3K had a lot of fans.

Somehow I predict it would devolve into a lot of racist trash talk, or Soulja Boi telling you about his expensive shirts.
"

hey if you want to invite racist, trash talking people into your party, that's your call entirely.
#5 Posted by Hexpane (1397 posts) -
Shadow said:
"Hexpane said:
"The XBL servers would explode if they tried to implement this.  NIce idea tho I personally am not into MST3K for games, I can see where a lot of people would enjoy it., just like MST3K had a lot of fans.

Somehow I predict it would devolve into a lot of racist trash talk, or Soulja Boi telling you about his expensive shirts.
"

hey if you want to invite racist, trash talking people into your party, that's your call entirely."
I certainly don't but I can't seem to avoid them online... even on GB sadly :( although I think Youtube has a higher % of racists than XBL these days.  IDK what the deal is but somehow you can't show butt crack on youtube w/o getting the video taken down, but death threats from KKK members seems ok by them.
#6 Posted by Whisperkill (2969 posts) -

Heh, I recently went through story mode in SSBB with my friend and another friend did commentary the whole time, it was hilarious.


But i dont think it would work, technically speaking
#7 Posted by Shadow (4980 posts) -
Whisperkill said:
"Heh, I recently went through story mode in SSBB with my friend and another friend did commentary the whole time, it was hilarious.

But i dont think it would work, technically speaking
"

Why?  You already have the party aspect in XBL.  It would take some coding on Microsoft's part, but live streaming video isn't exactly a new and unexplored medium.  Naturally, it's not like you would be playing another game while watching someone else play theirs, and so your system will be working about as hard as it would running the game in the first place.  So why would this be hard to do?
#8 Posted by clubsandwich (3795 posts) -


That's the worst idea ever.

#9 Edited by Hdfisise (137 posts) -
Shadow said:
"Whisperkill said:
"Heh, I recently went through story mode in SSBB with my friend and another friend did commentary the whole time, it was hilarious.

But i dont think it would work, technically speaking
"

Why?  You already have the party aspect in XBL.  It would take some coding on Microsoft's part, but live streaming video isn't exactly a new and unexplored medium.  Naturally, it's not like you would be playing another game while watching someone else play theirs, and so your system will be working about as hard as it would running the game in the first place.  So why would this be hard to do?"
It would be extremely likely it would make a performance hit. It would mean the game would heva to be recorded while playing which absolutely kills fps :\ Have a look into xfire broadcasting if you want to see this idea in an early stage of implementation.
#10 Edited by WilliamRLBaker (4777 posts) -

I like that idea.
P.S: xbox live servers wouldn't explode since it would be Client side.

#11 Posted by samcotts (2258 posts) -

Great idea, don't know how well it would work though. I do love watching other people play through games, in a lot of cases I'd prefer watch then actually play the game myself.

#12 Edited by Shadow (4980 posts) -
Hdfisise said:
"Shadow said:
"Whisperkill said:
"Heh, I recently went through story mode in SSBB with my friend and another friend did commentary the whole time, it was hilarious.

But i dont think it would work, technically speaking
"

Why?  You already have the party aspect in XBL.  It would take some coding on Microsoft's part, but live streaming video isn't exactly a new and unexplored medium.  Naturally, it's not like you would be playing another game while watching someone else play theirs, and so your system will be working about as hard as it would running the game in the first place.  So why would this be hard to do?"
It would be extremely likely it would make a performance hit. It would mean the game would heva to be recorded while playing which absolutely kills fps :\ Have a look into xfire broadcasting if you want to see this idea in an early stage of implementation.
"

that's why you would only do it with single player games.  It isn't necessary to have the performance of the video have anything at all to do with the performance of the game itself, but instead have it rely entirely on the audience's ability to stream the content fast enough.  On multiplayer games, this would probably affect lag somewhat in online games, but it shouldn't effect single player games at all.  Live streaming video sucks up bandwidth, but it shouldn't affect the game itself unless it relies on that bandwidth too.
#13 Posted by Eder (434 posts) -

In Gears when you die in multiplayer doesn't this happen? Making this totaly possible and a very good idea.

#14 Posted by WizardHowl (13 posts) -

I really like that idea. Can't you watch a movie with other people over Netflix? I'm sure MS could implement this. However I'm sure they might try to make it so only if you own the game you could watch it.

But really, would love for that to come to fruition.

#15 Posted by Fr0Br0 (3092 posts) -

I like this idea. Usually when I play a game with friends, we make weird funny comments all the time which makes it so much more fun. MGS4 with friends who have never played any MGS game before = mighty lulz.

#16 Posted by strangeling (1260 posts) -
samcotts said:
"Great idea, don't know how well it would work though. I do love watching other people play through games, in a lot of cases I'd prefer watch then actually play the game myself."
That's why I like the Persona 4 Endurance Run.  There are games I find interesting based on characters/story, but can never play  through myself because the gameplay doesn't do it for me.
#17 Posted by daniel_beck_90 (3159 posts) -
Eder said:
"In Gears when you die in multiplayer doesn't this happen? Making this totaly possible and a very good idea.
"
  Yeah it does and it is a brilliant idea
#18 Posted by WizardHowl (13 posts) -

A problem I forsee with this, is that Microsoft is leaning towards a more casual experiences and this seems to be something only hardcore gamers want.

#19 Posted by StaticFalconar (4849 posts) -

Works in theory if everybody on your XBL list truly is your friend. But many people have XBl list that aren't true friends, so you're gonna get: "What kinda faggoty ass thing you doing now, you god damn nigga......". Somehow I don't find that hilarious.

#20 Posted by Shadow (4980 posts) -
StaticFalconar said:
"Works in theory if everybody on your XBL list truly is your friend. But many people have XBl list that aren't true friends, so you're gonna get: "What kinda faggoty ass thing you doing now, you god damn nigga......". Somehow I don't find that hilarious.
"

well that sort of situation is solved by the kick+remove friend super combo
#21 Posted by logson (521 posts) -

I like the idea. Everyone could have their own Mystery Science Theaters. The charm might run dry pretty quickly, and bathroom and food breaks by the player could halt the fun, but I definitely think the ability to do that would be nice.

#22 Posted by chamin1 (107 posts) -

I honestly think it's a great idea. And maybe some games could implement this feature into the gameplay somehow. The only thing I'm worried about is how well xbl could handle it. It may cause some problems with the system xbl may even to shut down for a while at some point. I don't know if it could be done.

#23 Posted by RyanD (93 posts) -

I think it's a pretty good idea. I don't know how, the xbox live servers would handle all the information being distributed, but if they found some way for that to work, I would use it.

#24 Posted by Kush (8889 posts) -

Let's stop it with the spam posts in this thread, there's no reason for that crap. In response to the topic at hand...I don't think it would be too bad of an idea, as long as it's 100% optional and a setting you can turn off if you don't want it.

#25 Posted by crunchUK (5963 posts) -

that WOULd be amazing, but as a load of people pointed out everyone's internets would simply melt with all the strain. HOWEVER you could do something like halo 3 theater where you don't actually have a video file, rather a file which just tells all the game objects where to be and when, so that 10 minutes of you gaming would take up very little bandwidth compared to a video.

Also in halo 3 you can already almost do that, not streaming you playing but having 4 people watch the same clip at the same time


I'm starting to think this could well work

#26 Posted by Red (5995 posts) -

If they could get it to work, it'd be very awesome.

#27 Posted by TeflonBilly (4713 posts) -

I would love for something like this to be in Street Fighter IV in something like a quarter mode or tournament mode when in a party.

#28 Posted by Dj (913 posts) -

Good theory however I doubt it would ever be used well.

#29 Posted by DuhQbnSiLo (2139 posts) -

thats why theres justin.tv

#30 Posted by PureRok (4235 posts) -
Shadow said:
"Hdfisise said:
"Shadow said:
"Whisperkill said:
"Heh, I recently went through story mode in SSBB with my friend and another friend did commentary the whole time, it was hilarious.

But i dont think it would work, technically speaking
"

Why?  You already have the party aspect in XBL.  It would take some coding on Microsoft's part, but live streaming video isn't exactly a new and unexplored medium.  Naturally, it's not like you would be playing another game while watching someone else play theirs, and so your system will be working about as hard as it would running the game in the first place.  So why would this be hard to do?"
It would be extremely likely it would make a performance hit. It would mean the game would heva to be recorded while playing which absolutely kills fps :\ Have a look into xfire broadcasting if you want to see this idea in an early stage of implementation.
"
that's why you would only do it with single player games.  It isn't necessary to have the performance of the video have anything at all to do with the performance of the game itself, but instead have it rely entirely on the audience's ability to stream the content fast enough.  On multiplayer games, this would probably affect lag somewhat in online games, but it shouldn't effect single player games at all.  Live streaming video sucks up bandwidth, but it shouldn't affect the game itself unless it relies on that bandwidth too."
I don't think you fully understand how streaming works. The system will have to record each frame and then send it. At 60 FPS the 360 will be both rendering the frames and trying to record them to stream them at the same time. This requires CPU... which degrades performance. Some games already have some frame rate issues; compound those issues with the extra CPU crunching going on and those small dips become a lot bigger.

I like the idea, but unless they make some sort of hardware add-on to do the extra work for it... I don't see how it could be implemented successfully.
#31 Posted by JJWeatherman (14558 posts) -
clubsandwich said:
"
That's the worst idea ever."
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