New Xbox requires an always-on connection to block used games

#252 Posted by Trilogy (2675 posts) -

If either Sony or Microsoft implement that technology, it's going to be and extra kick in the balls since neither of them embrace digital sales the way steam does. At a certain point you have to ask yourself if it's even worth getting a machine that's designed to fuck you over to save it's own ass.

I'm still cautiously optimistic. I'm really hoping at least Sony doesn't go down that path.

#253 Posted by ez123 (1967 posts) -

@GenocidalKitten said:

I'm thinking more if they have always online and mostly only digital releases.

But you said that "if there is no used game market then games prices will stay at $60 even months after release." That would mean that there's also a physical new games market.

#254 Edited by VikG (136 posts) -

In my opinion this is the right move at the right time (if true of course & as long as they don't mess it up). They will probably take a hit in initial sales, especially if the PS4 allows used games, but I have no problem with this. This is a move wanted by a large number of publishers and will protect their investments & properties to a large extent.It will be interesting to see if the publishers continue to support them, if sales are affected greatly.

The only negative issue from my point of view is that it may make it harder to find certain titles which have low production runs or limited releases. They can avoid this issue by having everything available in digital form from the outset.

Closer parity to Steam's digital distribution model is exactly what they need and is long overdue. I have 300+ games on Steam & cannot sell/trade them, ever. That does not stop me from buying more games than I have time to play.

However, if I cannot download and play Geometry Wars 2 (which I purchased on the 360 & all other XBLA titles) on the Durango, then they have made a real mistake imo.

#256 Posted by Orange (206 posts) -

If the Nextbox had this, I would certainly buy a PS4 instead.

#257 Posted by OurSin_360 (937 posts) -

I honestly don't believe this (but if it is true then i'll skip the next xbox and just get the ps4). The reason i don't is i recently read them talking about why they don't release games early on demand is to support the retail market to help with console sales. Since used games sales take up a lot of the retail market they would be shooting themselves in the foot in terms of selling hardware IMO.

#259 Posted by robot4me (193 posts) -

I went nintendo, pc, and xbox 360 this gen and I will never go xbox again. There is never enough exclusives. As greedy as M$ went this gen, I could see a no used games policy. If the rumors are true about $ony and M$ I could see another 80's style game crash.

#260 Posted by Spongetwan (202 posts) -

I would have to say that this could be a deal breaker for alot of consumers. Not everyone wants to get a game when it first comes out. So if a used game can't be played on these systems parents wont by them for their kids or kids and us consumers will just buy less games. In the end the gaming industry will suffer.

#261 Posted by Lind_L_Taylor (3966 posts) -

@robot4me said:

I went nintendo, pc, and xbox 360 this gen and I will never go xbox again. There is never enough exclusives. As greedy as M$ went this gen, I could see a no used games policy. If the rumors are true about $ony and M$ I could see another 80's style game crash.

Yeah it's true. I haven't seen enough exclusives on the 360. It had a good start but then it fizzled.
The way I see it, I'll just buy fewer games or switch back to the PC. Someone was stating something
earlier about there not being a used PC games market but I still see PC games being sold in boxed
form, at least all the blockbusters. I don't know if the PC games being sold today are licensing themselves
such that they can't be resold however (like Spore). The main point being is that I just won't buy a lot of
games in the future, just those long, drawn out Western-built Fantasy/Sci-Fi/Post-Apoc RPGs that take
take forever to finish & avoid the perpetual shooter releases of other franchises. Quality over quantity.

#262 Edited by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -

I would have to say that this could be a deal breaker for alot of consumers. Not everyone wants to get a game when it first comes out. So if a used game can't be played on these systems parents wont by them for their kids or kids and us consumers will just buy less games. In the end the gaming industry will suffer.

I doubt its true. The CEO of GameStop says he is excited for it. So that may hint about it not having no used games.

#263 Posted by MegaMagick (40 posts) -

I'm reading now that you have to have a connection just to START your game and if you are disconnected from the internet you will be booted out of your game and taken to a trouble shoot page. This is the very definition of tedious and if true i won't be going anywhere near this console. I already have enough issues with my connection and i don't want to be instantly booted out of my SINGLE player version of Fallout 4, Elder Scrolls, etc because of that.

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