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The New X-Box Experience will suck.

Topic started by Jayge on July 31, 2008. Last post by LightYagami245 1 year, 3 months ago.
Post by Wolverine (3,350 posts) See mini bio
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I think the knew update looks awesome, netflix instant streaming makes it awesome.



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roofy said:
"Sentry said:
"roofy said:
"Sentry said:
"Jayge said:
"No. My argument is not singularly "avatars are retarded" or anything like that. My assertion is that they're lying. You're using a PR guy saying what people want to hear as some kind of evidence. My assertion that they are *lying* still has legs.

And Sentry, what am I being a fanboy of exactly? :-P
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I meant you are coming off as a hater, maybe not a fanboy but a hater to this whole new thing. I know it does suck but its not THAT bad. Avatars are a complete rip off in so many ways. In fact I could even make a thread on how Avatars=Miis/Home, Lips=SingStar, 'Newton'=Wiimote/SIXAXIS, New XBL vision camera game=Eye Toy/PS Eye.

Stuff like that, they are rorally ripping everything they see in Sony and Nintendo that is casual, and slapping it on 360. :\ But the update isn't as bad as you make it out to be.

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haha i love how people keep saying that Microsoft is copying Home with the avatar system an the Live party system.
why hasnt sony released home yet? if microsoft has been copying then shouldnt the competition have something out for them to copy?
no doubt that it is a Wii Mii copy but it cant be called an Home Avatar copy
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It most definitely can. So something has to be out for someone to copy it? OK thats like saying the SIXAXIS didn't copy the Wiimote at all since the Wiimote wasn't out yet. nice logic?

And thousands of people have been using it for more then a year now (like me), so its out there not only in development. Being the beta myself I can tell you its 100% fact that they are copying Home, not only in avatars (even used the same name lmfao), but in the new game show things which Sony had since before August of 07, game launching as well as streaming content and whatnot. It's really obvious to me, I guess that helps since I can testify for both sides more so.
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i have never heard anyone say that teh SIXAXIS was copying the wiimote. just because its motion sensitivity doesnt mean there was copying involved. and the worst part of your arguement is that the word avatar was solely for Sony and HOME. are you serious?
in that logic of yours then Sony has been copying forum culture? I think what your trying to say is that they are borrowing the likeness, not cpoying
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Wow, seriously? Go back to E3 2006, articles everywhere and people flaming echother over it. Everyone thought it copied it.

And no I NEVER said that avatar was invented the word avatar, genius. I said MS is even using the same NAME Home used for its characters' avatars, back around a year and a half from now.

And no they aren't 'borrowing', when the whole system is based off of things that were introduced almost 2 years ago, and then tagged with the name Xbox on it, I think that is pretty much copying. From game launching to the show games to the streaming to the spaces to the avatar creation, it simply is a big copy, and I have no doubt in my mind of this. Being in the beta I have actually used it, and what they are talking about 'vision of the future' are things blatantly ripped off, but since many people haven't used Home enough to know this, I guess its not that spread.


Post by BlindEffekt (810 posts) See mini bio

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I personally have come to terms with this update, and can appreciate the improvements.
Im not exactly happy with the avatars and what not, but as long as they let me keep my gamerpics etc, i really have no reason to moan.


Post by pause422 (4,100 posts) See mini bio
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Where have you heard Avatars are optional? like 40% of their casual shit including those avatars were what made up their E3 Press Conference,they talked about them to an extent to try to sell them as if this is coming with the fall update,and this is how its going to be from now on. There's even casual games thats coming out being based around the fucking avatars.

I'm not saying you're wrong or a liar,but can you show 100% proof that its optional? thats all i'm asking,I'd love to know its true for sure,because since I heard about it i've hated every little thing about that upcoming update.


Post by BlindEffekt (810 posts) See mini bio

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pause422 said:
"Where have you heard Avatars are optional? like 40% of their casual shit including those avatars were what made up their E3 Press Conference,they talked about them to an extent to try to sell them as if this is coming with the fall update,and this is how its going to be from now on. There's even casual games thats coming out being based around the fucking avatars.

I'm not saying you're wrong or a liar,but can you show 100% proof that its optional? thats all i'm asking,I'd love to know its true for sure,because since I heard about it i've hated every little thing about that upcoming update.
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Giantbombcast?


Post by Batman (844 posts) See mini bio

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They have shown how themes will look.  I saw it on Kotaku a while ago, sorry I don't have a link.  And the avatar thing looks cool, it'll be nice to get an idea of how your co-gamers look. :P


Post by pause422 (4,100 posts) See mini bio
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Not looking for a childish sarcastic answer. I usually listen to the bombcast's very carefully(sometimes multitasking though so I guess I could of missed it) I do remember hearing that your gamertags and pictures you have can still be accessed like they are now,but never hearing the avatars are an optional thing.


Post by BlindEffekt (810 posts) See mini bio

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pause422 said:
"Not looking for a childish sarcastic answer. I usually listen to the bombcast's very carefully(sometimes multitasking though so I guess I could of missed it) I do remember hearing that your gamertags and pictures you have can still be accessed like they are now,but never hearing the avatars are an optional thing.
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Sorry if it came off that way :o , but im pretty sure i head jeff/ryan say it was optional. Could be wrong


Post by Sentry (3,379 posts) See mini bio

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The thing about it being optional, is even though it is, you will be forced to use it, slowly. You'll see, they will offer things you can do with avatars that you can't with gamerpics, stuff like that. Slowly, but surely.

And MS is clearly heading the casual route, from the new Eye Toy rip off game (which looks cool), Lips (SS clone, but better), 'Newton' (Wiimote/SIXAXIS), and now avatars. They are losing the hardcore stuff. I fear they will end up like MS. Use all the hardcore people to get them to the top, then forget them when it becomes about the casual.


Post by BlindEffekt (810 posts) See mini bio

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Yeah it seems like there putting the appeal out for little children. Which is gay.


Post by pause422 (4,100 posts) See mini bio
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That would be great news to me,so I'll relisten to the last few bombcasts sometime to see if I hear about it. I'm not bashing every new thing in the update btw,its just the way they showed off those damn avatars they wanted them to be the meat of that whole update,they wanted them in your face to show you how they looked in a "GREEN POLO LOL" and I don't want that on my xbox.


Post by BlindEffekt (810 posts) See mini bio

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pause422 said:
"That would be great news to me,so I'll relisten to the last few bombcasts sometime to see if I hear about it. I'm not bashing every new thing in the update btw,its just the way they showed off those damn avatars they wanted them to be the meat of that whole update,they wanted them in your face to show you how they looked in a "GREEN POLO LOL" and I don't want that on my xbox.
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Neither, but theres not much we can do unfortunately.


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BlindEffekt said:
"Yeah it seems like there putting the appeal out for little children. Which is gay.
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Oh dear, I didn't realize that catering to the demographic that is quite effective at getting their parents to spend money is equivalent to having sexual relations with another member of the same gender.

Please, enlighten us more, O wise one!


Post by Sentry (3,379 posts) See mini bio

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  BlindEffekt said:
"Yeah it seems like there putting the appeal out for little children. Which is gay.
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Yeah, well it makes money so, you know the drill...


Post by pause422 (4,100 posts) See mini bio
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The fact is it isn't going to help them as much as they probably think this casual step is. Almost anyone who is casual and wants to get a system for those reasons of course would go for a Wii still,they aren't gonna suddenly decide"hmm,well the 360 now has avatars and a few casual things you can do with them,thats definitely the choice!"

even though it wouldn't happen because when microsoft makes a change they leave it,I really wish it would fail so bad that they don't have a choice but to remove them.


Post by Sentry (3,379 posts) See mini bio

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Yeah, well its not a one step thing, they have a have more casual stuff up their sleeves, thats for sure.


Post by Arestice (229 posts) See mini bio

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Jayge said:
"The Windows Media Center/Zune interface is nasty, even more space is wasted than before, and it was a stupid idea to do a redesign like that.

Granted, I'll be glad for the technological part of it- the new 8 person parties and the guide finally not taking up half the screen...

But that dashboard makes me want to punch a baby. Especially the forced avatars. If you still think avatars will be optional, or that you'll get to keep your gamerpicture the same as it always has been, you're screwed. I really hope they implement them, but at this point, even the T-shirt thing doesn't even seem likely. The reason they aren't showing themes or pics is because they have probably gauged the user reaction to the new implementations to be terrible. Nothing about the way M$ has handled this makes me feel like the customers are being considered in the decision at all. The dashboard was good- if cluttered- and they could easily have built on that, instead of a bunch of scrolling, ugly squares.
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No. You sir, suck.


Post by Sentry (3,379 posts) See mini bio

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LMFAO.


Post by BlindEffekt (810 posts) See mini bio

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Lol.


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samcotts said:
"Do you own a 360 to look at or play games?

The new dashboard looks cleaner and easier to use, and as long as it works smoothly, that's all that matters.
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Quote for the truth!


Post by Vinchenzo (3,874 posts) See mini bio
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I can't wait for party chat! That alone is worth it.


Post by Gorillawhat (1,017 posts) See mini bio
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This thread should just die. R.I.P.


Post by Sentry (3,379 posts) See mini bio

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Vinchenzo said:
"I can't wait for party chat! That alone is worth it.
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Haha, yeah its nice to have 6p party chat. Exactly what Home has, the idea is identical (launch games together, view images together, etc), but with less people, instead of 64 its 8 lol. OK that came off as hella fanboyish, sorry. Too tired atm.


Post by BlindEffekt (810 posts) See mini bio

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Gorillawhat said:
"This thread should just die. R.I.P.
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Post by Cartman (3,189 posts) See mini bio

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Personally, im looking forward to it


Post by Mats (31 posts) See mini bio
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I like the new interface. Changing it so drastically shows that MS have balls afterall.


Post by Jayge (9,055 posts) See mini bio
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Batman said:
"They have shown how themes will look.  I saw it on Kotaku a while ago, sorry I don't have a link.  And the avatar thing looks cool, it'll be nice to get an idea of how your co-gamers look. :P
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The problem with that is, I can see friends of mine (especially a certain few) who like to do those "themed" bios just changing their avatars every day to try and make them look like new video game characters and whatnot. I would probably make it look like myself if I used them; but I doubt many people will. Especially your average 300 lb. mother's basement 40 year old XD

And once again, thank you for the personal insults. They're quite amusing.

Oh Sentry- I think it's actually 8 person parties. Which would be freaking crazy awesome.


Post by BlackSuitAndTie9 (260 posts) See mini bio

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They've already showed the themes in use, and they've already said that gamer pictures will be implemented in some way. Calm down!


Post by Jayge (9,055 posts) See mini bio
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BlackSuitAndTie9 said:
"They've already showed the themes in use, and they've already said that gamer pictures will be implemented in some way. Calm down!
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We're not even on that anymore.


Post by Sentry (3,379 posts) See mini bio

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He was on a different page, most likely.





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