Would you buy the next Xbox if it requires Always Online?

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Posted by CrossTheAtlantic (1146 posts) 1 year, 9 months ago

Poll: Would you buy the next Xbox if it requires Always Online? (375 votes)

Yes 25%
No 75%

So, more sources are apparently saying that the next Xbox will require an always online connection, and while it will tolerate drops in the connection, it will only do so for up to three minutes. If this is indeed the case and not just something in the dev kits, will you guys still buy it? I'm not totally sure, and I'm honestly kind of surprised this is still planned after both the PS4's confirmation it will not and the SimCity launch. What do ya think?

#1 Posted by jdh5153 (1034 posts) -

Absolutely. I want it that way. I never turn my 360 off, it's always connected and playing Netflix or whatever else.

Most people never turn their computers off, why turn your console off? The next Xbox is going to be an always on, multipurpose entertainment and media machine, not solely a game console, so always on is needed to make it as functional as can be.

I'm hoping for live tiles like Windows 8, so I'll always see my e-mail, Twitter feed, Facebook, etc. scrolling across my TV, news tickers, weather, etc.

#2 Posted by djou (878 posts) -

I'm leaning toward the PS4 anyway and an always online console is not a dealbreaker in my book, but to answer your question it depends on the price of the console and what they think they can start charging for games.

If its $399 and the same price as the PS4 with games that are $60-$70, there is no chance I buy one. They better make this thing cheap, like $199 / $249 cheap if all this is true.

#3 Posted by project343 (2838 posts) -

No. Not because it affects me directly, but because it affects a significant number of consumers and garners tons of ill-will toward Microsoft. It'll naturally hurt their console sales, game sales on that system, and deter publishers and developers away from supporting the console. If Microsoft goes this route, there will be no support for this console, and it will die. I refuse to risk a $300-600 financial investment on the gamble that it doesn't.

#4 Posted by jimmyfenix (3753 posts) -

@jdh5153 said:

Absolutely. I want it that way. I never turn my 360 off, it's always connected and playing Netflix or whatever else.

Most people never turn their computers off, why turn your console off? The next Xbox is going to be an always on, multipurpose entertainment and media machine, not solely a game console, so always on is needed to make it as functional as can be.

I'm hoping for live tiles like Windows 8, so I'll always see my e-mail, Twitter feed, Facebook, etc. scrolling across my TV, news tickers, weather, etc.

what if your internet goes down ?

#5 Posted by Vanek (384 posts) -

If it's actually true? No amount of exclusives will make me buy it. Even if it isn't true Microsoft made some dick moves this generation so I don't really want to support them anyway.

I've had enough problems with my Internet connection over the years and if they start again it could easily make that machine unusable. I know some people have a perfect connection, so it won't bother them, but I don't and even so I don't trust Microsoft to get it right. I don't want my console to be dependent on another service and I don't want something that becomes a paper weight after they shut down the servers.

#6 Posted by Nightriff (5493 posts) -

Would probably be the dumbest mistake for Micro or Sony to do a move like that. Occasionally I don't have internet to connect to and in that case, I better be able to play my fucking games

#7 Posted by CrossTheAtlantic (1146 posts) -

@jdh5153:

For me, the idea of the TV/Xbox as an all in one entertainment center has kind of gone the way of the dodo. I use my phone for most of my social networking stuff, and I use a Roku for streaming stuff because it's small, makes virtually no noise, and keeps my power bill cheaper.

@djou:@project343: Yeah, I don't think it's such a specific deal breaker for me because of the act but more in what it represents. Also if this rumor is true, it makes me worried that some of the otherones (locking out used games; using the Kinect to authorize purchases based off of how many people are "present" and stuff like that) might slip in too.

#8 Posted by GERALTITUDE (3712 posts) -

If they do make it always online I will wait for the SKUs they release everywhere else in the world where "constant internet" is a joke. Unless of course the Softies have decided that America and the UK are good enough. I don't have very stable internet so No, not going to buy it.

#9 Posted by rebgav (1429 posts) -

Still sounds like bullshit.

I have no doubt that MS will find a way to shoot themselves in the foot but this doesn't seem like "it." Too obvious, too easy. Microsoft tends to seed its failures in more insidious ways.

#10 Posted by zudthespud (3289 posts) -

Sure, my PC is always online to play Steam why not a console?

#11 Posted by DonPixel (2663 posts) -

PC and maybe PS4 for next gen.

#12 Posted by CrossTheAtlantic (1146 posts) -

@zudthespud:

Well, Steam at least has an offline mode (even if I've had issues with it in the patch.

@rebgav:

Yeah, it seems like so obviously "dumb" that I'm honestly surprised devs are still saying its in the works. Maybe it's so that they can do something else and have the line of thinking as "Well, hey, at least it's not always online!"

#14 Edited by zudthespud (3289 posts) -

@zudthespud:

Well, Steam at least has an offline mode (even if I've had issues with it in the patch.

I never need to use offline mode, I'm always online. A console that had the same requirement wouldn't bother me.

#15 Posted by mracoon (4990 posts) -

I mostly have an internet connection when I'm playing my 360 but I don't trust MS not to screw something up. All the rumours about the next Xbox are pushing me closer to getting a PS4 next generation.

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#16 Posted by CrossTheAtlantic (1146 posts) -

@crosstheatlantic said:

@zudthespud:

Well, Steam at least has an offline mode (even if I've had issues with it in the patch.

I never need to use offline mode, I'm always online. A console that had the same requirement wouldn't bother me.

Fair enough! I'm pretty much always online too, so in practice, it'd have no effect on me. I guess it just still rubs me the wrong way because there's no mention of a real benefit to it yet. If they can deliver a dope reason for it, then I'd be willing to reconsider.

#17 Posted by jdh5153 (1034 posts) -

@jdh5153 said:

Absolutely. I want it that way. I never turn my 360 off, it's always connected and playing Netflix or whatever else.

Most people never turn their computers off, why turn your console off? The next Xbox is going to be an always on, multipurpose entertainment and media machine, not solely a game console, so always on is needed to make it as functional as can be.

I'm hoping for live tiles like Windows 8, so I'll always see my e-mail, Twitter feed, Facebook, etc. scrolling across my TV, news tickers, weather, etc.

what if your internet goes down ?

Never happens.

Do you not buy computers, because OMG what if the internet goes down, I couldn't use the internet, OH NO!

Playing games offline is for hermits. If I couldn't play online I wouldn't want to play period. Besides I use my Xbox for about 80% Netflix, 5% Hulu, 10% MLB.tv and 5% Call of Duty.

#18 Edited by jdh5153 (1034 posts) -

@zudthespud said:

Sure, my PC is always online to play Steam why not a console?

Exactly. Consoles aren't for offline gaming anymore, they're entertainment machines. Do people throw a fit because you can't stream Netflix offline? Like what the fuck do you expect, the internet is supposed to be an always on thing.

How about YouTube? Can't use that offline, it must suck too. Oh no, Giant Bomb doesn't have offline mode, fuck Giant Bomb.

#19 Posted by zudthespud (3289 posts) -

@jdh5153 said:

@jimmyfenix said:

@jdh5153 said:

Absolutely. I want it that way. I never turn my 360 off, it's always connected and playing Netflix or whatever else.

Most people never turn their computers off, why turn your console off? The next Xbox is going to be an always on, multipurpose entertainment and media machine, not solely a game console, so always on is needed to make it as functional as can be.

I'm hoping for live tiles like Windows 8, so I'll always see my e-mail, Twitter feed, Facebook, etc. scrolling across my TV, news tickers, weather, etc.

what if your internet goes down ?

Never happens.

Do you not buy computers, because OMG what if the internet goes down, I couldn't use the internet, OH NO!

Playing games offline is for hermits. If I couldn't play online I wouldn't want to play period. Besides I use my Xbox for about 80% Netflix, 5% Hulu, 10% MLB.tv and 5% Call of Duty.

Yeah my internet never goes down either. Is this a wide problem?

#20 Posted by jdh5153 (1034 posts) -

@jdh5153 said:

@jimmyfenix said:

@jdh5153 said:

Absolutely. I want it that way. I never turn my 360 off, it's always connected and playing Netflix or whatever else.

Most people never turn their computers off, why turn your console off? The next Xbox is going to be an always on, multipurpose entertainment and media machine, not solely a game console, so always on is needed to make it as functional as can be.

I'm hoping for live tiles like Windows 8, so I'll always see my e-mail, Twitter feed, Facebook, etc. scrolling across my TV, news tickers, weather, etc.

what if your internet goes down ?

Never happens.

Do you not buy computers, because OMG what if the internet goes down, I couldn't use the internet, OH NO!

Playing games offline is for hermits. If I couldn't play online I wouldn't want to play period. Besides I use my Xbox for about 80% Netflix, 5% Hulu, 10% MLB.tv and 5% Call of Duty.

Yeah my internet never goes down either. Is this a wide problem?

Guess people are still using dial up???

#21 Posted by jimmyfenix (3753 posts) -
@jdh5153 said:

@jimmyfenix said:

@jdh5153 said:

Absolutely. I want it that way. I never turn my 360 off, it's always connected and playing Netflix or whatever else.

Most people never turn their computers off, why turn your console off? The next Xbox is going to be an always on, multipurpose entertainment and media machine, not solely a game console, so always on is needed to make it as functional as can be.

I'm hoping for live tiles like Windows 8, so I'll always see my e-mail, Twitter feed, Facebook, etc. scrolling across my TV, news tickers, weather, etc.

what if your internet goes down ?

Never happens.

Do you not buy computers, because OMG what if the internet goes down, I couldn't use the internet, OH NO!

Playing games offline is for hermits. If I couldn't play online I wouldn't want to play period. Besides I use my Xbox for about 80% Netflix, 5% Hulu, 10% MLB.tv and 5% Call of Duty.

It was a simple question no need to be a dick about it.

#22 Edited by JasonR86 (9742 posts) -

It depends on what the 'always online' meant. I mean all my systems are always online right now. But if that meant that I had to buy into a Microsoft architecture to buy games then I would say 'no'. I would probably also say 'no' if it meant that used games couldn't be played on it. I barely even play used games. It's the principle of the matter.

#23 Edited by DonPixel (2663 posts) -

Sure, my PC is always online to play Steam why not a console?

PC is way more than steam

#24 Posted by jdh5153 (1034 posts) -

@jasonr86 said:

It depends on what the 'always online' meant. I mean all my systems are always online right now. But if that meant that I had to buy into a Microsoft architecture to buy games then I would say 'no'. I would probably also say 'no' if it meant that used games couldn't be played on it. I barely even play used games. It's the principle of the matter.

Best not buy any PC games if it's the principle of the matter that bugs you.

And if you want to bring up the "Steam is cheaper" argument, over the last two months Xbox has been having pretty significant sales with a ton of games dirt cheap. Just a few weeks ago there was a good selection of games for as cheap as $5. I think there's another sale coming up soon. They're definitely learning from the Steam store model with their digital games.

#25 Posted by jimmyfenix (3753 posts) -

@jdh5153 said:

@zudthespud said:

@jdh5153 said:

@jimmyfenix said:

@jdh5153 said:

Absolutely. I want it that way. I never turn my 360 off, it's always connected and playing Netflix or whatever else.

Most people never turn their computers off, why turn your console off? The next Xbox is going to be an always on, multipurpose entertainment and media machine, not solely a game console, so always on is needed to make it as functional as can be.

I'm hoping for live tiles like Windows 8, so I'll always see my e-mail, Twitter feed, Facebook, etc. scrolling across my TV, news tickers, weather, etc.

what if your internet goes down ?

Never happens.

Do you not buy computers, because OMG what if the internet goes down, I couldn't use the internet, OH NO!

Playing games offline is for hermits. If I couldn't play online I wouldn't want to play period. Besides I use my Xbox for about 80% Netflix, 5% Hulu, 10% MLB.tv and 5% Call of Duty.

Yeah my internet never goes down either. Is this a wide problem?

Guess people are still using dial up???

i bet you think that everyone can afford to up keep a decent bandwidth and not get charged for exceeding it ?

#26 Edited by Kidavenger (3642 posts) -

Always online wouldn't bother me but I can't say I have any plans on buying one though.

#27 Posted by zudthespud (3289 posts) -

@jimmyfenix: I'm sorry, I forgot about bandwidth limits in the US. In most other countries internet is much cheaper, and there aren't bandwidth limits.

#28 Posted by JasonR86 (9742 posts) -

@jdh5153 said:

@jasonr86 said:

It depends on what the 'always online' meant. I mean all my systems are always online right now. But if that meant that I had to buy into a Microsoft architecture to buy games then I would say 'no'. I would probably also say 'no' if it meant that used games couldn't be played on it. I barely even play used games. It's the principle of the matter.

Best not buy any PC games if it's the principle of the matter that bugs you.

And if you want to bring up the "Steam is cheaper" argument, over the last two months Xbox has been having pretty significant sales with a ton of games dirt cheap. Just a few weeks ago there was a good selection of games for as cheap as $5. I think there's another sale coming up soon. They're definitely learning from the Steam store model with their digital games.

Chill.

I personally have more faith in Valve then Microsoft. I think they are a better company so I'm more willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. That said the PC isn't my preferred gaming-source and I don't spend a lot of money on Steam as it is. So that comparison barely plays for me at all.

#29 Posted by elko84 (1136 posts) -

@jdh5153 said:

Absolutely. I want it that way. I never turn my 360 off, it's always connected and playing Netflix or whatever else.

Most people never turn their computers off, why turn your console off? The next Xbox is going to be an always on, multipurpose entertainment and media machine, not solely a game console, so always on is needed to make it as functional as can be.

I'm hoping for live tiles like Windows 8, so I'll always see my e-mail, Twitter feed, Facebook, etc. scrolling across my TV, news tickers, weather, etc.

what if your internet goes down ?

read a book?

#30 Posted by phantomzxro (1584 posts) -

It really depends on what it is because always online sounds bad in itself but we don't really know what it will actually do. If it does block offline access to playing your games or blocks used games then yes it would be a hard sell unless this thing is the second coming of video games.

#31 Edited by jimmyfenix (3753 posts) -

@jimmyfenix: I'm sorry, I forgot about bandwidth limits in the US. In most other countries internet is much cheaper, and there aren't bandwidth limits.

im in the uk and still have bandwidth issues

#32 Posted by yakov456 (1936 posts) -

Hell no. Still believe this has to be a farce. If its true they may as well fall on their own sword right now and end it all.

#33 Posted by Lind_L_Taylor (3971 posts) -

Sounds like a non-issue to me. They'll probably put in a switch for offline mode like Steam has. I mean the IE browser
has an offline mode & MS Office doesn't require "always on" in order to use it. The only reason I like to have
myself connected when playing a game is that I like to see the date-time stamp on achievements when I
get them. Otherwise they show up blank, but that's about it. I'm always on with my Internet access these
days & when I don't have it, I feel like something is missing in my life...I'd be more worried if they thwart the
used games market since their online game sales rarely ever have a deal & the deal usually isn't very cheap.
Not compared to Steam discounts at any rate. Eg, buy Deus Ex: Human Revolution with expansion on
Steam for $10 or less, go check the Xbox Live market place & see the expansion is still selling for $10,
years later as if it was brand new.

#34 Edited by UltraSoda (18 posts) -

If my computer is not online, it's useless. I have never played a Xbox 360 Offline. I'll still buy one and i will buy 1.

#35 Posted by mellotronrules (1304 posts) -

it's a non-factor for me. i'm primarily a steam gamer (and playing a lot of blizzard's games) these days, so it's just a fact of life for me now. it'd be nice if it didn't require an active connection, but having one isn't a dealbreaker.

#36 Posted by jimmyfenix (3753 posts) -

@jasonr86 said:

@jdh5153 said:

@jasonr86 said:

It depends on what the 'always online' meant. I mean all my systems are always online right now. But if that meant that I had to buy into a Microsoft architecture to buy games then I would say 'no'. I would probably also say 'no' if it meant that used games couldn't be played on it. I barely even play used games. It's the principle of the matter.

Best not buy any PC games if it's the principle of the matter that bugs you.

And if you want to bring up the "Steam is cheaper" argument, over the last two months Xbox has been having pretty significant sales with a ton of games dirt cheap. Just a few weeks ago there was a good selection of games for as cheap as $5. I think there's another sale coming up soon. They're definitely learning from the Steam store model with their digital games.

Chill.

I personally have more faith in Valve then Microsoft. I think they are a better company so I'm more willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. That said the PC isn't my preferred gaming-source and I don't spend a lot of money on Steam as it is. So that comparison barely plays for me at all.

this.

#37 Edited by cbarnes86 (562 posts) -

I voted yes, because I would say 99.9% of the time, I play my Xbox 360 with an internet connection. That .1% is when Live disconnects for a couple of seconds and I have to manually reconnect. I never play off of an internet connection and I believe even if the console will have this, it will have some sort of offline mode due to the fact you need to have the console on to connect to the internet.

#38 Edited by phantomzxro (1584 posts) -
@jdh5153 said:

@zudthespud said:

Sure, my PC is always online to play Steam why not a console?

Exactly. Consoles aren't for offline gaming anymore, they're entertainment machines. Do people throw a fit because you can't stream Netflix offline? Like what the fuck do you expect, the internet is supposed to be an always on thing.

How about YouTube? Can't use that offline, it must suck too. Oh no, Giant Bomb doesn't have offline mode, fuck Giant Bomb.


I can understand always online not bothering you personally but it can be a problem for most. Having a service go down because it needs online is one thing but having a system that is made to do one thing go down because of no online is a different beast. A PC can still be used for other things if you internet is out and i believe steam allows offline mode to play most games offline.

I don't want to jump the gun and condemn MS because if they were to make this true they would have to be very smart about it which I'm sure they would. But being force to be online to play games when you clearly don't need to be for most games seems very unfriendly to normal consumers. I also think to gamers who are not able to have internet all the time would just be out of luck.

#39 Posted by jimmyfenix (3753 posts) -

@jdh5153 said:

@zudthespud said:

Sure, my PC is always online to play Steam why not a console?

Exactly. Consoles aren't for offline gaming anymore, they're entertainment machines. Do people throw a fit because you can't stream Netflix offline? Like what the fuck do you expect, the internet is supposed to be an always on thing.

How about YouTube? Can't use that offline, it must suck too. Oh no, Giant Bomb doesn't have offline mode, fuck Giant Bomb.

I can understand always online not bothering you personally but it can be a problem for most. Having a service go down because it needs online is one thing but having a system that is made to do one thing go down because of no online is a different beast. A PC can still be used for other things if you internet is out and i believe steam allows offline mode to play most games offline.

I don't want to jump the gun and condemn MS because if they were to make this true they would have to be very smart about it which I'm sure they would. But being force to be online to play games when you clearly don't need to be for most games seems very unfriendly to normal consumers. I also think to gamers who are not able to have internet all the time would just be out of luck.

This

#40 Posted by Aurelito (721 posts) -

I hope jailbreakers can fix it with a simple modchip. If it's true, though.

#41 Posted by Butano (1805 posts) -

Sounds like a Kotaku article......

#42 Edited by jsnyder82 (771 posts) -

I sold my 360 a year ago, so no matter what, I think I might be done with Microsoft consoles for the time being. But soon we'll all be 'always-online' anyway, so I don't know that I can see the harm in that. I mean, I've had my gaming PC for over a year now, and I don't think I've ever played a Steam game offline. Or any game, for that matter.

#43 Posted by Daveyo520 (7144 posts) -

I don't care about having to be online all the time. It really only depends on the games or really the exclusives it will have. If it does not have any I need I will stick to PC and use my 360 to play all the games I have for it that I haven't touched.

#44 Edited by XenoNick (1485 posts) -

Nope.

#45 Edited by Jeust (10921 posts) -

I won't buy it regardless. While Microsoft sticks to the same strategy they employed this generation I won't buy a next gen Xbox. Outside of Gears of War, Halo, Alan Wake and Fable, the only games we got this generation were the third party stuff that appears in the PS3. There isn't much reason to stick to it, unless you like those franchises, and even so it is pushing it compared to the amount of exclusives in the PS3.

#46 Posted by Neonie (438 posts) -

My internet right now, at this VERY MOMENT is being incredibly unreliable despite paying 20mb/s. Like it won't even let me watch any sort of video and pictures a loading up in a dial-up esq fashion.

So no. Fuck that.

#47 Edited by CrossTheAtlantic (1146 posts) -

@phantomzxro said:

It really depends on what it is because always online sounds bad in itself but we don't really know what it will actually do. If it does block offline access to playing your games or blocks used games then yes it would be a hard sell unless this thing is the second coming of video games.

Well, what the sources are saying is that, if you're not connected to the internet (or lose connection for three minutes) you lose access. No games. No apps. Nada.

@lind_l_taylor Well, if the above is true, it sounds like you wouldn't have an offline mode option. Just that it wouldn't run (which is what would make it an issue for me).

#48 Posted by Krullban (1088 posts) -

Yes. I'll have them all, like I do every generation.

#49 Posted by StarvingGamer (8608 posts) -

Yes, insofar as I won't not buy it if it has always online. I'll have to wait and see what the console exclusives look like, however, because I'm almost positive PS4 is going to be my go-to for anything multiplatform.

#50 Posted by MedalOfMode (293 posts) -

Yes, I will. Because My internet connection never goes down.

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