Xbox One - Must be Online Once Every 24 Hours

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#1 Edited by CrossTheAtlantic (1145 posts) -

http://kotaku.com/xbox-one-does-require-internet-connection-cant-play-o-509164109

Well, clarifying the mystifying "Not always online but does require an internet connection" bit from the Q & A, Microsoft just told Kotaku that while it doesn't have to always be online, you do need to connect to their "cloud" once every twenty four hours to keep doing stuff.

I'm really hoping this is just--like how the used game thing seemingly is--some kind of miscommunication.

Here's the money-shot quote:

Kotaku: If I’m playing a single player game, do I have to be online at least once per hour or something like that? Or can I go weeks and weeks?

Harrison: I believe it’s 24 hours.

Kotaku: I’d have to connect online once every day.

Harrison: Correct.

#2 Posted by JasonR86 (9608 posts) -

Lol. It just keeps getting worse doesn't it?

#3 Posted by Oscar__Explosion (2197 posts) -

Oh man this is starting to turn into a real shit show isn't it.

#4 Edited by SpaceInsomniac (3556 posts) -

Well, it's been nice doing business with you Microsoft. You take care, now.

#5 Posted by CrossTheAtlantic (1145 posts) -

@oscar__explosion:

At this point, the worst case scenario is the Xbox One presentation sort of glossed over it's fairly anti-consumer aspects, and the best case scenario is that no one at Microsoft knows what the fuck their console actually does or does not do.

#6 Edited by EpicSteve (6471 posts) -

Do ya'll not already just have your consoles connected at all times anyways?

#7 Edited by Creamypies (4051 posts) -

@jasonr86: @crosstheatlantic: I really don't understand the issue. Everyone has the internet, and if they don't, they're not going to buy an Xbox. I find it crazy that there are still, to this day, a whole bunch of people who can't connect their consoles to the internet.

Even when I take my 360 to a mates house for a LAN game, I can still connect to his internet. What situation are people in where they can't connect to the internet once every 24 hours?

#8 Posted by Darji (5294 posts) -

WOW LOL

#9 Edited by Ezakael (911 posts) -

@epicsteve: My xbox is not always on, usually it's offline.

Not until Internet caps become a thing of the past are we ready for it and even than it's completely anti consumer. There is no need for it.

#10 Edited by Oscar__Explosion (2197 posts) -

@jasonr86: I really don't understand the issue. Everyone has the internet, and if they don't, they're not going to buy an Xbox. I find it crazy that there are still, to this day, a whole bunch of people who can't connect their consoles to the internet.

Even when I take my 360 to a mates house for a LAN game, I can still connect to his internet. What situation are people in where they can't connect to the internet once every 24 hours?

I was without internet for two weeks when I moved into my current place. It was an experience I wish on nobody.

#11 Posted by benpicko (1997 posts) -

Do ya'll not already just have your consoles connected at all times anyways?

Yeah, this doesn't affect me at all but it seems as though they've done everything in their power to piss everybody off.

#12 Edited by Phatmac (5721 posts) -

BOMBSHELL!

#13 Posted by connerthekewlkid (1803 posts) -

I have a feeling this could just be something with cloud saves and its Kotaku being Kotaku but who knows at this point.

#14 Edited by CrossTheAtlantic (1145 posts) -

@connerthekewlkid said:

I have a feeling this could just be something with cloud saves and its Kotaku being Kotaku but who knows at this point.

That would be ideal, but their answer to the Q&A on always-online definitely leaves wiggle room for something like this. Would obviously like it not to be the case. While it doesn't really affect me, I still think it's kinda whack.

#15 Edited by Creamypies (4051 posts) -

@oscar__explosion: But even in that situation, you could set up a portable hotspot on your phone and use your 3G/4G to connect. I just feel like we are past a point where the idea of having to connect just once every 24 hours be a problem. There's always another way. Yours is a real extreme scenario.

#16 Posted by Rafaelfc (1313 posts) -

this occasion calls for some Powerman 5000!

#17 Posted by JasonR86 (9608 posts) -

@creamypies:

It just directly cuts off a big chunk of their potential market for what, to me, seems like no good reason.

#18 Edited by SpaceInsomniac (3556 posts) -

Microsoft: Don't worry, those always online rumors were not true.

Journalists: Really?

Microsoft: Well, that sort of depends on your definition of the word "always."

Gamers: REALLY?

Adam Orth: #dealwithit

#19 Posted by Oscar__Explosion (2197 posts) -

@creamypies: I love how everybody acts like every person in the world has a smartphone (I don't) I'm sure there are plenty of other people who can run across a situation where they just can't get internet at all for days at a time.

#20 Posted by MentalDisruption (1618 posts) -

Well, that is silly if true. I'm usually always connected anyway, but I could see that being a bit annoying for some people.

#21 Edited by connerthekewlkid (1803 posts) -

Microsoft: Don't worry, those always online rumors were not true.

Journalists: Really?

Microsoft: Well, that sort of depends on your definition of the word "always."

Gamers: REALLY?

Adam Orth: #dealwithit

Wh...who are you talking to?

#22 Posted by TurboMan (7400 posts) -

Do ya'll not already just have your consoles connected at all times anyways?

What if I bring my console with me when I travel or when I visit family that doesn't have Wifi at their house?

What if there's a problem going on with the internet at my home?

What if there's a weird network error?

What if something bad happens to the servers?

I just want to play the games that I paid money for.

#23 Edited by AgnosticJesus (542 posts) -

What if the entire US internet infrastructure goes down ?! WTF!!!!!

#24 Edited by big_jon (5709 posts) -

Who here doesn't have an internet connection? Get over it and stop bitching, masses. Steam is basicly the same way.

The odds of your internet being down for a full 24 hours are not very high, yes I have some worries too, but really, let's wait for the full picture before we get our panties in a bunch.

Showing was pretty poor over all, E3 will be the time to judge.

#25 Posted by golguin (3843 posts) -

Do ya'll not already just have your consoles connected at all times anyways?

No. I only connect my 360 to my modem when I'm going to play or watch something online. I have to run the cable across my room to get it online since it doesn't have wifi.

#26 Posted by psylah (2162 posts) -

More like Xbox SHUN, amirite guys?

#27 Posted by SpaceInsomniac (3556 posts) -

@spaceinsomniac said:

Microsoft: Don't worry, those always online rumors were not true.

Journalists: Really?

Microsoft: Well, that sort of depends on your definition of the word "always."

Gamers: REALLY?

Adam Orth: #dealwithit

Wh...who are you talking to?

Alternative ending:

Gamers: REALLY?

Adam Orth: Um, can I get my job back now?

#28 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19308 posts) -

@epicsteve said:

Do ya'll not already just have your consoles connected at all times anyways?

No, not everyone does and there are a number of issues with it, as detailed above. I can't understand the people who don't try to see these things from others' perspective instead of being dismissive about it.

#29 Posted by CrossTheAtlantic (1145 posts) -

@epicsteve said:

Do ya'll not already just have your consoles connected at all times anyways?

No, not everyone does and there are a number of issues with it, as detailed above. I can't understand the people who don't try to see these things from others' perspective instead of being dismissive about it.

Yeah, my younger brother doesn't normally connect his Xbox to the internet, either, so it would definitely affect him, for instance. Other times he goes on tour with a professional drum core or whatever, and I know he takes the Xbox so he and friends can play whenever they have downtime. That sort of thing wouldn't really be able to happen then either. Like I said, rarely a big deal for me, but I can totally still see how it would suck.

#30 Posted by Video_Game_King (36012 posts) -

Do ya'll not already just have your consoles connected at all times anyways?

No. There are extended periods of time when I can't connect it, so I wouldn't be able to play at all during those periods.

#31 Posted by oraknabo (1453 posts) -

@oscar__explosion said:

I was without internet for two weeks when I moved into my current place. It was an experience I wish on nobody.

I spent the first 20 years of my life like that and it wasn't so bad.

#32 Posted by MordeaniisChaos (5730 posts) -

I don't think I've ever lost internet for any time that wasn't either less than 5 minutes or more than two days. They really need some clarification out on this. If it's really every day, that's some hot bullshit that is totally ignoring the problem with always online. It's not the idea that we'll lose access for a couple of hours, or minutes. It's that we'll lose access for like, two weeks when comcast maintenance fucks all the internet in your neighborhood.

#33 Posted by Jimbo (9772 posts) -

Is there really any point discussing what this console is or isn't at this point? Microsoft themselves hardly seem to know what's going on right now. The reveal came off like a homework assignment hastily thrown together on the way to class, and their press work since then almost seems like they're just making it up as they go along. Seems clear that Sony forced their hand and they really weren't ready to go public yet.

E3 could be cringeworthy if they don't have their ducks in a row by then.

#34 Posted by Reisz (1461 posts) -

I really hope people start feeling like the benefit outweighs the requirement on this stuff soon, Microsoft may need to change their approach before that happens though.

#35 Posted by Pr1mus (3811 posts) -

If you don't connect once per week the Microsoft Repo Team comes to your place and takes the console back because obviously you don't use it anyway.

#36 Edited by MonetaryDread (1992 posts) -

@epicsteve:

@creamypies:

The only internet option where I live is dial-up. There are mountains and trees that block any connection to satellite (at least satellite tv, I have not tried internet), and my dial-up connection is super slow because I have to dial-out to an ISP almost 100 km away.

Will the next xbox support dial-up in the first place? I doubt it...

#37 Posted by MX (228 posts) -

Oh god I really don't hope the prediction that I made/ Idea that I had about a month ago comes true. What if Microsofts charges a fee in order to take your console offline.

#38 Posted by Milkman (16527 posts) -

Well, that's real dumb.

#39 Posted by Carousel (418 posts) -

It all comes

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#40 Posted by psoplayer (237 posts) -

I would be very surprised if the 24 hour window wasn't changed to something closer to 7 days (if not removed entirely) by the time the console launches.

#41 Posted by Oscar__Explosion (2197 posts) -

@oraknabo said:

@oscar__explosion said:

I was without internet for two weeks when I moved into my current place. It was an experience I wish on nobody.

I spent the first 20 years of my life like that and it wasn't so bad.

I wasn't trying to sound to serious. All in all it wasn't THAT terrible.

#42 Edited by Clonedzero (4091 posts) -

I dont get why people are so mad about having an internet connection. My PC is always connected to the internet. My 360 is always connected to the internet. Whats the big deal?

#43 Posted by Ben_H (3311 posts) -

That sucks. I almost never have my Xbox hooked up to the internet. In offline there are no ads to bug me and it still plays games just as good.

#44 Posted by bigjeffrey (4788 posts) -

I guess i'll comment with Deal With It

yeah.....

#45 Posted by Jimbo (9772 posts) -

@reisz said:

I really hope people start feeling like the benefit outweighs the requirement on this stuff soon, Microsoft may need to change their approach before that happens though.

What is the benefit to the user of a mandatory 24hr check-in on single player games?

It's not so much PR spin as a barefaced and transparent lie to try and claim this is for the benefit of the user. I think that's what annoys people more than the practicalities of it.

#46 Posted by PhilESkyline (772 posts) -

Wrote this up a month ago. Some cases still apply to the 24 hour checkup MS has in place.

Below are some case studies I developed as to why an always on connection is a bad idea.

Case Study #1

My wifi goes out Friday night. Verizon FiOS tell me they can't have a guy come out until Tuesday between 9am and 3pm. Besides going out and enjoying life I also want to play a few video games until I'm back online. I know I can't get on multiplayer but hey single player sounds nice and then I remember oh God...no internet means no Xbox...well that sucks.

Case Study #2

I'm on a tight budget and only have an unlimited data plan through my cell phone carrier. I choose not to get internet. I can't play Xbox.

Case Study #3

I live in a location where my internet signal is weak and rather than pay for a piss poor signal I save my money and opt not to get internet at all. I can't play Xbox

Case Study #4

I'm 12 years old and my parents say the internet is nothing but trouble. Thanks to the hate and name calling in COD multiplayer they setup parental controls on our internet services to block me from connecting until I'm 18. No internet. I can't play Xbox.

Case Study #5

I got an Xbox for Christmas from my grandparents hooray! Unfortunately, my family can't afford internet right now. My new Xbox is now a dust box. I can't play Xbox.

Case Study #6

Bad weather knocks out my internet but I still have power, great let me play my Xbo...oh crap!

Case Study #7

I have wired DSL internet for my PC in my living room. All I do is check email and read news online. I don't want to pay for high speed internet or a router. Guess that means I can't play Xbox.

Case Study #8

My router died...I can't play Xbox.

Case Study #9

Ninja's stole my internet...I can't play Xbox (this one actually happened to me)

Case Study #10

I need to devote all internet resources to downloading "things" from a torrent and a website for adults...I guess I can't play xbox.

#47 Posted by CrossTheAtlantic (1145 posts) -

@pr1mus said:

If you don't connect once per week the Microsoft Repo Team comes to your place and takes the console back because obviously you don't use it anyway.

If it's Harry Dean Stanton, then that feature becomes a plus.

#48 Posted by Baillie (4039 posts) -

Spend $400+ on a brand new console. Can't afford $10 a month for internet.

Logical.

#49 Posted by jonnyboy (2920 posts) -
We just want to make sure you're still you!

#50 Posted by Jimbo (9772 posts) -

I dont get why people are so mad about having an internet connection. My PC is always connected to the internet. My 360 is always connected to the internet. Whats the big deal?

You aren't everybody?

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