What did Vinny do that made him restart?

#1 Posted by wumbo3000 (937 posts) -

I just started playing XCOM, and am having an awesome time with it. But I distinctly remember Vinny talking on the bombcast about how he was forced to restart the game. I really don't want to have restart anything, so I was just wondering what I needed to do to avoid that. And please, if possible, no spoilers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

#2 Edited by YoThatLimp (1880 posts) -

@wumbo3000 said:

I just started playing XCOM, and am having an awesome time with it. But I distinctly remember Vinny talking on the bombcast about how he was forced to restart the game. I really don't want to have restart anything, so I was just wondering what I needed to do to avoid that. And please, if possible, no spoilers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

You are going to have to restart at some point most likely. This is a game you can't really play through on a single play through (unless you are lucky or are playing on easy).

I've found this pretty handy:

http://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=Research_(EU2012)#Projects)

Don't worry about having to start over, you will know more about how to play for your next game.

#3 Posted by PillClinton (3290 posts) -

I'm kinda in the same boat. Probably gonna restart at some point, but I don't really have to yet, so I may not. I think the biggest mistake I made was to not launch enough satellites early game. I'm just starting to realize how important those are. And having fighter aircraft spread across all the continents.

#4 Posted by HaltIamReptar (2029 posts) -

@YoThatLimp said:

@wumbo3000 said:

I just started playing XCOM, and am having an awesome time with it. But I distinctly remember Vinny talking on the bombcast about how he was forced to restart the game. I really don't want to have restart anything, so I was just wondering what I needed to do to avoid that. And please, if possible, no spoilers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

You are going to have to restart at some point most likely. This is a game you can't really play through on a single play through (unless you are lucky or are playing on easy).

You have had a fucked experience if you had to restart on normal.

#5 Posted by coakroach (2488 posts) -

I never had to restart, but then again I had no qualms about reloading saves when someone valuable got wasted.

I'd suggest you do as many missions as possible to avoid running low on resources/funds and make sure you keep up with your satellites to avoid losing too many countries.

#6 Posted by musclerider (588 posts) -
@HaltIamReptar

@YoThatLimp said:

@wumbo3000 said:

I just started playing XCOM, and am having an awesome time with it. But I distinctly remember Vinny talking on the bombcast about how he was forced to restart the game. I really don't want to have restart anything, so I was just wondering what I needed to do to avoid that. And please, if possible, no spoilers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

You are going to have to restart at some point most likely. This is a game you can't really play through on a single play through (unless you are lucky or are playing on easy).

You have had a fucked experience if you had to restart on normal.

Yeah. Normal is not all that difficult if you're patient.

I beat the game on normal on my first try without ever losing a country.
#7 Posted by YI_Orange (1128 posts) -

@musclerider said:

@HaltIamReptar

@YoThatLimp said:

@wumbo3000 said:

I just started playing XCOM, and am having an awesome time with it. But I distinctly remember Vinny talking on the bombcast about how he was forced to restart the game. I really don't want to have restart anything, so I was just wondering what I needed to do to avoid that. And please, if possible, no spoilers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

You are going to have to restart at some point most likely. This is a game you can't really play through on a single play through (unless you are lucky or are playing on easy).

You have had a fucked experience if you had to restart on normal.

Yeah. Normal is not all that difficult if you're patient. I beat the game on normal on my first try without ever losing a country.

Yeah, I'm on course to do the same. I'm heading into the last mission(or set of missions) now. I only lost 1 soldier I deemed important. 3 others I was reckless with and basically used as scouts.

#8 Posted by chilibean_3 (1622 posts) -

@musclerider said:

@HaltIamReptar

@YoThatLimp said:

@wumbo3000 said:

I just started playing XCOM, and am having an awesome time with it. But I distinctly remember Vinny talking on the bombcast about how he was forced to restart the game. I really don't want to have restart anything, so I was just wondering what I needed to do to avoid that. And please, if possible, no spoilers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

You are going to have to restart at some point most likely. This is a game you can't really play through on a single play through (unless you are lucky or are playing on easy).

You have had a fucked experience if you had to restart on normal.

Yeah. Normal is not all that difficult if you're patient. I beat the game on normal on my first try without ever losing a country.

Pretty much. Always be patient and always be building satellites. I didn't realize the importance of satellites until I had already all but lost a country. Keep up with your tech and take your time on missions and you'll get through.

#9 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7240 posts) -
@musclerider
@HaltIamReptar

@YoThatLimp said:

@wumbo3000 said:

I just started playing XCOM, and am having an awesome time with it. But I distinctly remember Vinny talking on the bombcast about how he was forced to restart the game. I really don't want to have restart anything, so I was just wondering what I needed to do to avoid that. And please, if possible, no spoilers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

You are going to have to restart at some point most likely. This is a game you can't really play through on a single play through (unless you are lucky or are playing on easy).

You have had a fucked experience if you had to restart on normal.

Yeah. Normal is not all that difficult if you're patient.

I beat the game on normal on my first try without ever losing a country.
Same here, I did lose a lot do soldiers, but I never lost a country. Here is a tip - Sell stuff! Even if they can be used for research, late game you probably won't need stuff like sectoid and thin man corpses. Leave a couple just in case, but if you need late game armour and weapons, and you just need money and not ellerium or other resources, sell the low level corpses and you should be good to go.
#10 Posted by MikkaQ (10268 posts) -

I kinda ignored the whole satellite issue until it was far too late and countries were pulling out like... some kind of sexual simile.

So don't ignore satellites, get those bitches up. Because I focused on satellites early on, money stopped being a problem really quickly and I could focus on research and gearing up my squad with the best shit as soon as it was available.

#11 Posted by wchigo (539 posts) -

Yeah, eventually you get enough satellites and at that point, money is no longer an issue: your bottleneck for equipment and research will be materials instead.

I never had to restart on Normal and only lost one semi-important dude on my squad when the game stopped keeping three auto-saves for me and I ran into my first Sectopod. Aside from that, the beginning was kind of a good challenge but at the end it just became too easy. From what others have said, Classic sounds more like two steps up over Normal instead of one in terms of stats and the RNG, so I'm a bit loathe to start it...

#12 Posted by Terramagi (1159 posts) -

He presumably didn't do anything outside of the newbie mistake of not building shittons of satellites in the early game to the detriment of EVERYTHING ELSE.

Ballistics can take you to month 3. By that point, you should have so much goddamn spacemoolah that suddenly you go from starting equipment to "badass motherfuckers" in about as long as it takes to buy and equip the stuff.

#13 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -
@YoThatLimp said:

@wumbo3000 said:

I just started playing XCOM, and am having an awesome time with it. But I distinctly remember Vinny talking on the bombcast about how he was forced to restart the game. I really don't want to have restart anything, so I was just wondering what I needed to do to avoid that. And please, if possible, no spoilers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

You are going to have to restart at some point most likely. This is a game you can't really play through on a single play through (unless you are lucky or are playing on easy).

I've found this pretty handy:

http://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=Research_(EU2012)#Projects)

Don't worry about having to start over, you will know more about how to play for your next game.

I played though on normal and got though without restarting. Most likely because I made a plan and took it slowl 
#14 Edited by YoThatLimp (1880 posts) -

@HaltIamReptar said:

@YoThatLimp said:

@wumbo3000 said:

I just started playing XCOM, and am having an awesome time with it. But I distinctly remember Vinny talking on the bombcast about how he was forced to restart the game. I really don't want to have restart anything, so I was just wondering what I needed to do to avoid that. And please, if possible, no spoilers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

You are going to have to restart at some point most likely. This is a game you can't really play through on a single play through (unless you are lucky or are playing on easy).

You have had a fucked experience if you had to restart on normal.

I really don't think I am the only person who started over on normal. The actual combat was fine for me and never lost too many guys, but the base building section kind of threw me for a loop. I kept trying to do too many things at once and tapping myself out. I finally just started over and went for Laser weapons/Carapace armor out of the gate and the game was significantly easier after that. Before I was just trying to research everything (starting with the quickest completed items first) and it really fucked me up. It doesn't help that you can't really see what the research gives you and they are all named kind of ambiguous things.

#15 Posted by golguin (3842 posts) -

@chilibean_3 said:

@musclerider said:

@HaltIamReptar

@YoThatLimp said:

@wumbo3000 said:

I just started playing XCOM, and am having an awesome time with it. But I distinctly remember Vinny talking on the bombcast about how he was forced to restart the game. I really don't want to have restart anything, so I was just wondering what I needed to do to avoid that. And please, if possible, no spoilers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

You are going to have to restart at some point most likely. This is a game you can't really play through on a single play through (unless you are lucky or are playing on easy).

You have had a fucked experience if you had to restart on normal.

Yeah. Normal is not all that difficult if you're patient. I beat the game on normal on my first try without ever losing a country.

Pretty much. Always be patient and always be building satellites. I didn't realize the importance of satellites until I had already all but lost a country. Keep up with your tech and take your time on missions and you'll get through.

I played on normal and not a single crew member died aside from the tutorial since I didn't have control. I also didn't lose a country. The key is to put ALL of your money into satellites and to build the 2x2 satellite nexus combo to get the 16 spots as fast as possible. Base building is rather simple when you you have one side devoted to non bonus structures, power, and satellites and the other side pure workshops. I was dealt a map with all the steam on the final layer so I had to build a few emergency power setups just to have the power to build anything else before I can build on the steam. My crew suffered without upgraded guns and equipment for the majority of the game, but once I hit the first month over 1000 I finally had the money to buy upgrades. After that I had more money than I knew what to do with.

The key is purely to pump money into things that make money and save money (satellites and workshops) and to give up on things that cost money (foundry, lab, psy, equipment, etc.) because your crew can always pick up the slack by bringing in more materials and winning without costly upgrades.

#16 Posted by J12088 (435 posts) -

I had to restart just the once. Basically once you realize just how important satellites are you're rosey. That's the only reason you should have to restart on normal.

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