Why can I never get a soldier from ___ country?

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#1 Posted by crusader8463 (14413 posts) -

I was wondering what other peoples experiences have been on trying to spawn soldiers from certain countries and if you have had problems getting people from certain countries to spawn for you. For example, I'm trying to get as many Canadians as I can in my games but last night I literally had to buy all 99 slots of units, dismiss 70 of them and higher 70 more before I got one single Canadian solider. Yet I had literally 5-6 of every other countries flag in my list. Looking back now, in the 5-6 games I have played thus far I think I have only had a Canadian solider in 1 or 2 games and that was a single guy. Yet just about every other country I have seen in the game I easily get 5-6 of each. A couple people I have talked to have had the exact same experience with getting Canadians in their games specifically, as they are trying to make me in their games but they never do because they can't get a Canadian soldier to spawn for them.

Maybe it's just that I'm looking for one specific thing that I'm noticing this, but I was wondering if anyone else has had this issue with getting soldiers from certain countries to spawn as well. Canadians or otherwise.

#2 Posted by Kerned (1169 posts) -

I have no advice for you, but on my first playthrough (just finished yesterday) I only had two female soldiers spawn in the entire game. I thought that seemed mighty strange.

#3 Posted by Nux (2305 posts) -

I had a Canadian solider once and felt really lucky to have him. He is dead now and no matter how hard try I can't seem to recruit any others. I feel your pain.

#4 Posted by Mr_Skeleton (5137 posts) -

Because the X-Com initiative was created by racists.

#5 Posted by Gilbert64 (60 posts) -

I always laugh at how insanely jingoistic Canadians are.

#6 Posted by MariachiMacabre (7050 posts) -
@Gilbert64

I always laugh at how insanely jingoistic Canadians are.

The fuck are you talking about? How is Canada jingoistic? They have among the least aggressive foreign policy on the planet. And of course the Canadian OP wanted Canadian soldiers. I'm American and I wanted some more American soldiers. It's not jingoism, it's a power fantasy for your chosen country, in this case. Also I don't think you know what jingoism means. Jingoism is not synonymous with patriotism or nationalism.
#7 Posted by Jams (2959 posts) -

@MariachiMacabre said:

@Gilbert64

I always laugh at how insanely jingoistic Canadians are.

The fuck are you talking about? How is Canada jingoistic? They have among the least aggressive foreign policy on the planet. And of course the Canadian OP wanted Canadian soldiers. I'm American and I wanted some more American soldiers. It's not jingoism, it's a power fantasy for your chosen country, in this case. Also I don't think you know what jingoism means. Jingoism is not synonymous with patriotism or nationalism.

What I'm wondering is why everyone's giving a shit about the soldiers names and places of origins. Especially when they don't live for too long.

#8 Posted by crusader8463 (14413 posts) -

@Jams said:

@MariachiMacabre said:

@Gilbert64

I always laugh at how insanely jingoistic Canadians are.

The fuck are you talking about? How is Canada jingoistic? They have among the least aggressive foreign policy on the planet. And of course the Canadian OP wanted Canadian soldiers. I'm American and I wanted some more American soldiers. It's not jingoism, it's a power fantasy for your chosen country, in this case. Also I don't think you know what jingoism means. Jingoism is not synonymous with patriotism or nationalism.

What I'm wondering is why everyone's giving a shit about the soldiers names and places of origins. Especially when they don't live for too long.

Some die from time to time but for the most part I have the same soldiers I start the game with at the end. I don't use my soldiers as meat shields. As for your question, it's easier to grow attached to your characters when you name them after people that you know and for me, and others, having them be from the wrong country ruins that illusion. If you don't care that's fine, but myself and others do. Honestly I just wish that when they joined your squad you got to customize them then and there and just get to choose their country from the get go.

#9 Posted by Jams (2959 posts) -

@crusader8463 said:

@Jams said:

@MariachiMacabre said:

@Gilbert64

I always laugh at how insanely jingoistic Canadians are.

The fuck are you talking about? How is Canada jingoistic? They have among the least aggressive foreign policy on the planet. And of course the Canadian OP wanted Canadian soldiers. I'm American and I wanted some more American soldiers. It's not jingoism, it's a power fantasy for your chosen country, in this case. Also I don't think you know what jingoism means. Jingoism is not synonymous with patriotism or nationalism.

What I'm wondering is why everyone's giving a shit about the soldiers names and places of origins. Especially when they don't live for too long.

Some die from time to time but for the most part I have the same soldiers I start the game with at the end. I don't use my soldiers as meat shields. As for your question, it's easier to grow attached to your characters when you name them after people that you know and for me, and others, having them be from the wrong country ruins that illusion. If you don't care that's fine, but myself and others do. Honestly I just wish that when they joined your squad you got to customize them then and there and just get to choose their country from the get go.

I think it's cool that people can get invested like that. For me though, I can't name just anybody after someone I know and get invested. They'd at least have to look like them. I don't even think it worked for me when I tried it in The Sims.

#10 Edited by Chop (1994 posts) -

I seem to get nothing cept' Mexican and Italian dudes. Out of some 20 slots, at least 10 of them are from those two countries...

I don't think I've ever gotten a Canadian, actually.

#11 Posted by Tim_the_Corsair (3065 posts) -

Personally, I have gotten a pretty broad mix in my game, including several Canadians (amusingly, every Canadian I have had has been a support, and none of reached higher than Captain before getting capped)

Anyway, I like having a multicultural team with their original names and their random nicknames. The only thing I change is their physical appearance occasionally (as I seem to get a disproportionate number of blonde mohawk white guys) and their armour colour and style.

#12 Posted by kerse (2100 posts) -

I had all black dudes from African nations as my first set of guys the game gave me for ironman classic, not a big deal but it seemed strange.

#13 Edited by Dagbiker (6939 posts) -

Perhaps I am different but i always enjoyed games, and media in general where people come together to accomplish things. I don't see it as American and the rest of the world, I see it as Human vs Alien, we put our differences aside, perhaps just this once, to defend earth.

PS: I had the same problem with woman, 11 hours in and only 5 and who knows how many men. There are also 40+ country's your dudes can be from.

#14 Posted by JellyFish_Gsus (769 posts) -

The only Canadian I have is called Trish "Missionary" Stratus. I didn't give her the nickname.

#15 Posted by TheHumanDove (2523 posts) -

@Gilbert64 said:

I always laugh at how insanely jingoistic Canadians are.

Yup. That's us, eh.

#16 Posted by Hunter5024 (5541 posts) -

One of my favorite units was a canadian lady who was a sniper, and she was turned into a zombie. I havent got another Canadian since then and I've been through about 40 soldiers.

#17 Posted by MikkaQ (10268 posts) -

I got one today, when I started my second game. I was glad because I needed a Canadian to be Bret Hart in my classic wrestler themed squad.

#18 Posted by Bunny_Fire (290 posts) -

@MariachiMacabre said:

@Gilbert64

I always laugh at how insanely jingoistic Canadians are.

The fuck are you talking about? How is Canada jingoistic? They have among the least aggressive foreign policy on the planet. And of course the Canadian OP wanted Canadian soldiers. I'm American and I wanted some more American soldiers. It's not jingoism, it's a power fantasy for your chosen country, in this case. Also I don't think you know what jingoism means. Jingoism is not synonymous with patriotism or nationalism.

I'm afraid you are wrong there straight from Wikipedia FYI

Jingoism is extreme Patriotism in the form of aggressive foreign policy. In practice, it is a country's advocation of the use of threats or actual force against other countries in order to safeguard what it perceives as its national interests. Colloquially, it refers to excessive bias in judging one's own country as superior to others—an extreme type of nationalism.

#19 Posted by MikeGosot (3227 posts) -

I just want some people from Brazil, but i never got a single ONE of them, to the point i don't even think they exist.

#20 Posted by Grillbar (1796 posts) -

well at least you got Canadians my country aint even represented, the closes thing i can find is a swede, also having trouble finding snipers only have 2, but a ton of support and assault guys. still i just want 1 more fore my group

#21 Posted by BoG (5181 posts) -

I had plenty of Canadians, but I was similarly frustrated with the system. I just want ONE Spaniard. Is that so much to ask? I've played 30 hours, and I have yet to see a single Spaniard.

#22 Posted by ShadowConqueror (3050 posts) -

But all you need are Americans.

#23 Posted by HatKing (5816 posts) -

Jesus, I paid precisely no attention to the country of origin for the characters. Even the ones based on real people. I thought it was kind of funny that my roommate was from Argentina, our friend was from Canada, and I was from the United Kingdom, even though we're all actually a bunch of boring Americans.

#24 Edited by andrew2696 (295 posts) -

The nationalities helped me pick names like Natasha Romanoff my resident female Russian. And all Americans are named after Giantbomb crew. Vinny "Vindog" Caravella (sniper) and Ryan "Taswell" Davis (assault) are great and my two psi soldiers. Drew is in the barracks in case I ever need a new sniper.

In my first game I got a couple of Canadians. Not so much anymore.

#25 Posted by Farbelowaverage (47 posts) -

I'm still blown away by the fact that there are only half as many options for customizing the non-caucasian races, which I may not have noticed if my starting team in my last game wasn't 5 Nigerian duders, 3 of whom were identical.

#26 Posted by Village_Guy (2492 posts) -

Yeah why the hell isn't there any Danish dudes? I guess Sweden is there, but then I would rather not have any at all.

Most of my units seems to be either from the US or Japan...

#27 Posted by Shirogane (3563 posts) -

@andrew2696: Vinny should be Italian dude!

I've also found that the soldiers tend to come from the same few countries. Not sure if your choice of base affects it, but last time i noticed my starting squad was all from Asia, including one South Korean. Didn't know you could get Koreans.

The soldiers you get as rewards are always from the country you did the mission for, so that might be one way to get specific soldiers.

#28 Posted by TobbRobb (4579 posts) -

@Village_Guy: Sweden represents all of Scandinavia. Dirty danish peasants!

#29 Posted by Zaccheus (1788 posts) -

I only got 2 female soldier out of 30 or something, which I found pretty strange. On my second playthrough I started with 3 though, so I guess it was just bad luck.

#30 Posted by Village_Guy (2492 posts) -

@TobbRobb: How dare you filthy Swedish devils! Denmark are the true rulers of Scandinavia!

#31 Posted by TobbRobb (4579 posts) -

@Village_Guy: I think X-com knows a little more about this then you do. Obviously.

Kind of related though, I got a guy with a danish name but Swedish flag. Maybe they don't even know there are more countries here? XD

#32 Posted by Village_Guy (2492 posts) -

@TobbRobb: Maybe, it wouldn't be the first time I've heard someone from the US thinking that either Denmark or Sweden is the capital of Scandinavia... ;D

#33 Posted by Terramagi (1159 posts) -

My Psionic Assault who ended up killing the final boss on my Classic playthrough was Canadian.

#34 Posted by UitDeToekomst (702 posts) -

@Village_Guy: I had a Norwegian guy named Jorgen Eriksen in my first play through. Died on his first mission. Poor bastard.

#35 Posted by Mnemoidian (955 posts) -

Here's the reason: Random.

The game does seem more likely to generate soldiers from high-population, developed areas (US, Canada, UK, Russia), at least in my game.

My "final team" consisted of 2 from the UK (no gift), One japanese (Gifted), one argentinan (Gifted), one US (Gifted) and one greek (Gifted) soldier. Clearly the UK is not gifted? (Or... more likely, RNG was not in my psi-favor on 2 of my best soldiers :P)

@Village_Guy: I got several danes, several norweigans. Only a single swede.

Of course, all of them testing negative for the gift meant they all had to go.

#36 Posted by jayjonesjunior (1086 posts) -

@JellyFish_Gsus said:

The only Canadian I have is called Trish "Missionary" Stratus. I didn't give her the nickname.

Wierd, i have a Canadian soldier (male/support) and his designated nickname is Missionary too.

#37 Posted by Rafaelfc (1313 posts) -

@MikeGosot said:

I just want some people from Brazil, but i never got a single ONE of them, to the point i don't even think they exist.

there are Brazilians in the game, I got 2 in my squad.

#38 Posted by sam1am7000 (99 posts) -

@crusader8463 said:

I was wondering what other peoples experiences have been on trying to spawn soldiers from certain countries and if you have had problems getting people from certain countries to spawn for you. For example, I'm trying to get as many Canadians as I can in my games but last night I literally had to buy all 99 slots of units, dismiss 70 of them and higher 70 more before I got one single Canadian solider. Yet I had literally 5-6 of every other countries flag in my list. Looking back now, in the 5-6 games I have played thus far I think I have only had a Canadian solider in 1 or 2 games and that was a single guy. Yet just about every other country I have seen in the game I easily get 5-6 of each. A couple people I have talked to have had the exact same experience with getting Canadians in their games specifically, as they are trying to make me in their games but they never do because they can't get a Canadian soldier to spawn for them.

Maybe it's just that I'm looking for one specific thing that I'm noticing this, but I was wondering if anyone else has had this issue with getting soldiers from certain countries to spawn as well. Canadians or otherwise.

Well I've been playing only for a few hours and have a Canadian soldier in my set of (about 8) active soldiers....

This makes me wonder if anyone has seen an Indian soldier?

#39 Posted by david3cm (635 posts) -

I really wish you had an option to choose the soldiers you recruit, or maybe pay more to hire mercs where their info is displayed. Forget new missions or weapons for dlc, I want more armor customization and more options for recruiting.

#40 Posted by prestonhedges (1965 posts) -

What a waste of time.

#41 Posted by AlexW00d (6182 posts) -

@Village_Guy said:

@TobbRobb: Maybe, it wouldn't be the first time I've heard someone from the US thinking that either Denmark or Sweden is the capital of Scandinavia... ;D

Hey, Copenhagen IS the capital of Scandinavia.

#42 Posted by Death_Burnout (3792 posts) -

I'm confused as to why this is a thread...

#43 Posted by Bourbon_Warrior (4523 posts) -

Is it too much to ask for a Ozzy called Alf Stewart?

#44 Edited by Anund (876 posts) -

I had a norwegian girl in one of my playthroughs. She was a heavy and sooo horrible, she missed every shot for the first three quarters of the game. She was lucky though, I started disliking her and actively put her in harms way, but she made it to colonel and started kicking ass. I've only ever seen one Swede, though I am swimming in Canadians. Seems there's always at least one or two in the barracks. Russians and Americans seem most common though.

#45 Posted by TobbRobb (4579 posts) -

@AlexW00d: LIES. We would never accept a danish king!

@Bourbon_Warrior: Did you mean Aussie?

#46 Posted by Bourbon_Warrior (4523 posts) -

@TobbRobb: No I mean Ozzy.

#47 Posted by TobbRobb (4579 posts) -

@Bourbon_Warrior: I don't know who that is, so like. What would an Ozzy be in the meaning intended? I'm guessing Osbourne related.

#48 Posted by Bourbon_Warrior (4523 posts) -

@TobbRobb: Australian as in OZZY OZZY OZZY! OI OI OI!

#49 Posted by crusader8463 (14413 posts) -

@Death_Burnout said:

I'm confused as to why this is a thread...

You should try reading the thread. It's not complicated.

#50 Posted by The_Ruiner (1010 posts) -

I have one American. She's awesome.

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