Can I enjoy this game without playing 999?

#1 Posted by Commisar123 (1798 posts) -

Can I enjoy this game without playing 999? Obviously I will like it more if I play 999 first, but will I be able to understand what is going on otherwise?

#2 Posted by mwng (956 posts) -

You'd probably get a bit more out of the story by playing 999 first, as it explains a couple of the characters motivations.
 
But it is by no means necessary to enjoy vlr, the premise and stuff is explained, and the game has a very good insular story to tell too.

#3 Posted by TruthTellah (9481 posts) -

@Commisar123: You'd probably enjoy it just fine, but it wouldn't be -as- enjoyable. And 999 is great. So, you should play that, too. ha.

#4 Edited by FlarePhoenix (420 posts) -

I thought the thread title said paying 999. I couldn't believe a game would cost that much.

#5 Posted by robcat09 (48 posts) -

I'm enjoying it just fine without having played the first game. The puzzles are in no way related to that game. I think character motivations will become apparent as you play. Kind of nice that things are mysterious. I think this game stands on its own very well.

#6 Posted by FancySoapsMan (5818 posts) -

you should play 999 anyway, because it's a great game

#7 Posted by AndrewB (7691 posts) -

If you're playing it for the story, you're missing out on plot points that are explained but have much less meaning to you, and you might not fully understand. I'd also suggest playing the first game if that's a possibility. It's not super long, but it *is* super good (but could sure use a puzzle skip mode for those you've already done).

#8 Posted by robcat09 (48 posts) -

There are a lot of great games. Can't play them all. Don't really care if I miss out on the meaning of some plot. The game seems to have an interesting enough plot as it is. Ignorance is bliss, I suppose!

#9 Posted by AndrewB (7691 posts) -

@robcat09 said:

There are a lot of great games. Can't play them all. Don't really care if I miss out on the meaning of some plot. The game seems to have an interesting enough plot as it is. Ignorance is bliss, I suppose!

I couldn't imagine playing this series for anything but the plot, to be honest. I'm just not a big puzzle gamer. I trudge through the puzzles to experience the writing.

#10 Posted by JZ (2120 posts) -

I did

#11 Posted by robcat09 (48 posts) -

If you are in it for the plot, there are people who record entire play-throughs on YouTube. You can just sit back and watch. Why bother with the puzzles at all? They are very complex. Just doesn't seem like a good use of time.

It's a puzzle game, first and foremost. Some of the most devious, complex puzzles I've ever seen in a video game. Solving one of the rooms without needing any help makes me feel like Einstein! That feeling is why I'm playing. To me, there are very large cut-scenes in between the playable parts. They are certainly entertaining, but the 'game' part is why I play.

I didn't think I would like the game, but took a gamble, and after solving two rooms, I am hooked, and invested.

#12 Edited by AndrewB (7691 posts) -

@robcat09 said:

If you are in it for the plot, there are people who record entire play-throughs on YouTube. You can just sit back and watch. Why bother with the puzzles at all? They are very complex. Just doesn't seem like a good use of time.

It's a puzzle game, first and foremost. Some of the most devious, complex puzzles I've ever seen in a video game. Solving one of the rooms without needing any help makes me feel like Einstein! That feeling is why I'm playing. To me, there are very large cut-scenes in between the playable parts. They are certainly entertaining, but the 'game' part is why I play.

I didn't think I would like the game, but took a gamble, and after solving two rooms, I am hooked, and invested.

There are people who record entire playthroughs with inane comic relief commentary. This is a branching story, and while you have to experience every branch (even the failures) to get the full story, you're missing something by watching someone else play through it. The only reason I recommend people watch a Youtube playthrough of Ever17 is because the game is no longer available in the language 99% of the Giant Bomb audience can understand.

It's not to say that the puzzles are bad, because they're all great. The later ones are challenging, but always fair in explaining what your ultimate goal is, and a rational mind can figure them out without a FAQ given enough thought. However, I *personally* found myself trying to breeze through them because I was so engrossed in the plot and I just wanted to get to the next novel segment. That's what I'm talking about.

I spent the first week and a half since the game's release watching a terrible Youtube playthrough while waiting for Amazon to actually ship the damn thing just because I was so desperate to experience it.

#13 Posted by robcat09 (48 posts) -

@AndrewB: just for future reference, this guy doesn't talk over the gameplay videos:

http://www.youtube.com/user/IPlayPSVita

#14 Posted by ervonymous (1297 posts) -

Totally forgot that 999 never saw a European release, thankfully the good ol' DS doesn't care. Good a time as any, just before Christmas makes international deliveries a nightmare. I have no excuse for not playing it earlier.

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