Stop sucking on the teet of their franchises.
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Activision is the largest third-party publisher in the world. It became the first third-party developer for video game consoles, and is responsible for popular franchises such as Call of Duty, Guitar Hero, and Tony Hawk.
So I guess if we really wanted to fuck Activision
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" Only reason I buy Activision products are because of Infinity Ward and Blizzard... but with the recent stuff going on at IW that might change :O. But Blizzard still has a calling to me :S. "Well, it's not Blizzards fault that they are associated with Activision.
It was Vivendi's intention to 'share the bed' with Activision, and they just decided to slap on Blizzards name because they have a superb reputation within Vivendi.
Of course, saying Activision Blizzard is just, it's a shit stain on Blizzards clean white shirt.
"Also the fact 98% of Blizzard's revenue comes from World of Warcraft astounds me. "Once you actually think about it, it makes sense. $15 a month from over 10 million people soon mounts up. And even though their customer support & server maintenance costs are going to be substantial, I'm sure it they still make a decent profit from it too.
" @Leptok: My mind is blown, I guess we agree to disagree? "So why are we mad at them? Cause From what I see..the more game compines we " Hate" The fewer and fewer games we have to pick from.
You want to stop buying Activision games then go for it, I don't anyway. You will not be missed, their titles sell millions.
If people stopped buying GH and COD games i'd be happy. I don't want the Activisio business practice to catch on.
Blizzard is alright of course ;)
you have some of the worst logic ever." @Hamz: They are being too ruthless. If your business practice is making your company a gigantic dick, then you can go fuck yourself. As for blizzard yeah it's kind of frightening actually. "
In business, ruthlessness is a favorable trait.
and its not causing you any harm as a consumer, so its fair practice
Anyway, people were guessing that it may be a PR stunt, maybe to do with the release of BF:BC2. Not sure whether or not anything's been confirmed to totally overrule that assertion, but I can't give it too much credit anyway. From our perspective, the timing of it all seems suspicious. From IW's perspective, provided this is real, the timing is just really unfortunate. The LAST thing they're thinking about right now is the release of someone else's game, but they know that's the connection a lot of people are going to make. Bummer, I hope it turns out to be fake. If not, I wish those guys the best of luck because they're really fucking talented. I sort of got the feeling they were being stifled by Activision, so I hope they can flourish elsewhere.
I have never got this fascination of gamers with small time game developers, yeah it is cool when like 5 guys make a game and it is alright but the best games come from big time studios and you know what those studios need, publishers.
Seriously people need to stop being so anti-corporation, i know video games have taught us that they will take over the world but i don't think they ever reference activision doing so, they publish video games they don't make guns or anything.
Buy the game if it is good, don't if it is shit. Answered
" @Leptok said:you have some of the worst logic ever. In business, ruthlessness is a favorable trait. and its not causing you any harm as a consumer, so its fair practice "" @Hamz: They are being too ruthless. If your business practice is making your company a gigantic dick, then you can go fuck yourself. As for blizzard yeah it's kind of frightening actually. "
They are just doing so many things that a reprehensible that I can't stand it. There are ways to be successful without screwing everyone over. I get that they are a business. What I am saying is that if they want to go down the "Fuck it, lets be as evil as possible route," then we have a right to go "Well screw you too, I'll take my business elsewhere."
I'm not really sure why this comes as a shock to anyone. Those are perhaps the three biggest videogame franchises right now so of course they're going to constitute a large portion of Activision's revenue. It doesn't mean they don't have other successful game franchises, but you can't really compare anything to World of Warcraft or call of Duty. I'm pretty sure you put those two franchises in any other developers library and they're going to account for most of the profits.
I was actually kind of surprised that WoW only accounts for 98% of Blizzard's revenues. When you think of how much Blizzard is raking in every year that's a lot of Starcraft or Warcraft anthologies still being sold.
I would like to see how EA's profit are broken up. From a surface analysis, the biggest thing they have going is Madden and then a host of games that sell around 1-2 million copies (BioWare and other EA Sports titles being the standouts). Also, they have SWTOR in the making - that could be really big for them. I'm not an analyst but doesn't it look like EA has a more sustainable business model ?
Also, going forward...if you take out Blizzard, what really does Activision have ? The Call of Duty IP might lose it's value after another Treyarch title and they already ran the Hero series into the ground last year. They would be in big trouble if Blizzard decided to part ways with them.
Speak for yourself. Raising the price of games, taking power from the players, and supposedly making Battle.net paid is hardly not harming the consumer. Besides other dickish moves like terminating fan projects like the sequel made by fans of King's Quest 8 cancelled." @Leptok said:
you have some of the worst logic ever. In business, ruthlessness is a favorable trait. and its not causing you any harm as a consumer, so its fair practice "" @Hamz: They are being too ruthless. If your business practice is making your company a gigantic dick, then you can go fuck yourself. As for blizzard yeah it's kind of frightening actually. "
I don't care about Activision's products, and i feel happy that i don't endorse this kind of behaviour.
" MW2 sucks, World of Warcraft sucks, Guitar Hero sucks and Starcraft 2 doesn't look all too great in the context of 2010. Bobby Kotick can go fuck himself with his chode. Oh, wait... "Now tell us how you really feel.
" @Hamz said:Also, you can't forget the fact that they haven't made anything BUT WoW products at any point in the past 9 years. Theres really nothing else for them to profit from."Also the fact 98% of Blizzard's revenue comes from World of Warcraft astounds me. "Once you actually think about it, it makes sense. $15 a month from over 10 million people soon mounts up. And even though their customer support & server maintenance costs are going to be substantial, I'm sure it they still make a decent profit from it too. "
" @roofy said:What evidence? Cuz they killed King's Quest? Hell, those guys can simply rename" @Leptok said:They are just doing so many things that a reprehensible that I can't stand it. There are ways to be successful without screwing everyone over. I get that they are a business. What I am saying is that if they want to go down the "Fuck it, lets be as evil as possible route," then we have a right to go "Well screw you too, I'll take my business elsewhere." "you have some of the worst logic ever. In business, ruthlessness is a favorable trait. and its not causing you any harm as a consumer, so its fair practice "" @Hamz: They are being too ruthless. If your business practice is making your company a gigantic dick, then you can go fuck yourself. As for blizzard yeah it's kind of frightening actually. "
everything & make their own King's Quest-inspired game. Small time developers do it all
the time. Activision won't stop anything that has a demand to it, it'll just change its form
& go on with them.
" Why do we want to screw Activision over? Also the fact 98% of Blizzard's revenue comes from World of Warcraft astounds me. "It's fucking insane innit, To be so dependent on one franchise, I can see how, and I can see why it happened, but for them to let it happen.
Once something, (Probably not for a long time though) takes everyone's minds off of WOW then they will be totally fucked.
(98% fucking christ...)
And the Kings Quest thing, that is why I don't like them. It was just a dick move, there was no good reason to shit on fans like that. What did they hope to accomplish? Yeah they have total iron fisted control of that IP again, but anyone who cared about the IP will just be pissed by this.
" @roofy said:just because you cant stand their practices doesnt mean we have to fuck them over." @Leptok said:They are just doing so many things that a reprehensible that I can't stand it. There are ways to be successful without screwing everyone over. I get that they are a business. What I am saying is that if they want to go down the "Fuck it, lets be as evil as possible route," then we have a right to go "Well screw you too, I'll take my business elsewhere." "you have some of the worst logic ever. In business, ruthlessness is a favorable trait. and its not causing you any harm as a consumer, so its fair practice "" @Hamz: They are being too ruthless. If your business practice is making your company a gigantic dick, then you can go fuck yourself. As for blizzard yeah it's kind of frightening actually. "
who are they screwing over? not the consumer because if that was the case then the consumer would go elsewhere. They dont have a monopoly, its simple economics.
@Jeust said:
" @roofy said:Speak for yourself. Raising the price of games, taking power from the players, and supposedly making Battle.net paid is hardly not harming the consumer. Besides other dickish moves like terminating fan projects like the sequel made by fans of King's Quest 8 cancelled. I don't care about Activision's products, and i feel happy that i don't endorse this kind of behaviour. "" @Leptok said:
you have some of the worst logic ever. In business, ruthlessness is a favorable trait. and its not causing you any harm as a consumer, so its fair practice "" @Hamz: They are being too ruthless. If your business practice is making your company a gigantic dick, then you can go fuck yourself. As for blizzard yeah it's kind of frightening actually. "
This is business for them, their not in it to make friends. If the consumer didnt feel that the tradeoff for battle.net and IWnet was worth it, then they wouldnt buy it. They didnt force anyone to buy it, you have free will.
Terminating fan projects is something every company does. You dont see people complaining about Nintendo throwing C&D orders around.
The fact is that they own Intellectual Property and they need to make sure that they are not harmed in any way, out of their control.
People really seem to lose sight that this is a business now, not just fun and games
You are right, but i, as consumer, it is also my right not to endorse this practices. I'm in it for fun and games, as for any other diversion i have, if that is harmed i take myself elsewhere. As i do, any other gamer too." @Leptok said:
just because you cant stand their practices doesnt mean we have to fuck them over." @roofy said:
They are just doing so many things that a reprehensible that I can't stand it. There are ways to be successful without screwing everyone over. I get that they are a business. What I am saying is that if they want to go down the "Fuck it, lets be as evil as possible route," then we have a right to go "Well screw you too, I'll take my business elsewhere." "" @Leptok said:
you have some of the worst logic ever. In business, ruthlessness is a favorable trait. and its not causing you any harm as a consumer, so its fair practice "" @Hamz: They are being too ruthless. If your business practice is making your company a gigantic dick, then you can go fuck yourself. As for blizzard yeah it's kind of frightening actually. "
who are they screwing over? not the consumer because if that was the case then the consumer would go elsewhere. They dont have a monopoly, its simple economics.
@Jeust
said:This is business for them, their not in it to make friends. If the consumer didnt feel that the tradeoff for battle.net and IWnet was worth it, then they wouldnt buy it. They didnt force anyone to buy it, you have free will. Terminating fan projects is something every company does. You dont see people complaining about Nintendo throwing C&D orders around. The fact is that they own Intellectual Property and they need to make sure that they are not harmed in any way, out of their control. People really seem to lose sight that this is a business now, not just fun and games "" @roofy said:
Speak for yourself. Raising the price of games, taking power from the players, and supposedly making Battle.net paid is hardly not harming the consumer. Besides other dickish moves like terminating fan projects like the sequel made by fans of King's Quest 8 cancelled. I don't care about Activision's products, and i feel happy that i don't endorse this kind of behaviour. "" @Leptok said:
you have some of the worst logic ever. In business, ruthlessness is a favorable trait. and its not causing you any harm as a consumer, so its fair practice "" @Hamz: They are being too ruthless. If your business practice is making your company a gigantic dick, then you can go fuck yourself. As for blizzard yeah it's kind of frightening actually. "
This is what Kotick, Activision and any other developer and publisher forget about this industry. We don't care much about their policies, but we care for our experiences with their products, and if they start pushing the consumers too much, they might find them somewhere they don't want to be. Savage capitalism is short sighted, as is Activision's success.
" @Hamz said:I'm not sure if you've heard but Blizzard has a couple games that might sell a copy or two coming out." Why do we want to screw Activision over? Also the fact 98% of Blizzard's revenue comes from World of Warcraft astounds me. "It's fucking insane innit, To be so dependent on one franchise, I can see how, and I can see why it happened, but for them to let it happen. Once something, (Probably not for a long time though) takes everyone's minds off of WOW then they will be totally fucked. (98% fucking christ...) "
" Also the fact 98% of Blizzard's revenue comes from World of Warcraft astounds me. "I would practically assume that 98% goes without saying at this point considering anyone who ever had a desire to play their other franchises probably owns 2-3 copies of those games by now.
It's obvious the other 2% comes from their SNES titles like Lost Vikings and Rock n' Roll Racing. ;P
" I'll only stop buying Activision games when they stop being good. What a company does behind the scenes is interesting but it doesn't affect my purchasing decisions. "But it does, when they demand that games come out before they should, or with reduced features, or with ways to charge you more money for iffy addons etc.
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