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#1  Edited By Jayge_

I know that the website allows for nudity as long as it's in-game nudity, but the fact that there is no age barrier for accessing the page is kind of ridiculous. I could understand if it's something with game art in the background or environment, but these are deepy sexual depictions of women and men doing things that it's illegal for people to see without some sort of superficial "over 18" crap up there. It's not a good idea to leave it unchecked. Only around half of the stuff needs to be deleted, I would think.

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#2  Edited By Endogene

no
this discussion has already taken place
NO

drawings are not illegal

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#3  Edited By brukaoru

A warning would be good, but I hope they do not introduce age gates around GiantBomb. Age gates are so stupid, anyone can put in a birthdate and say they are over 18 even if they really aren't. So yeah, a warning would be nice for pages like that.

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#4  Edited By atejas

You're killing me here.

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#5  Edited By Endogene
brukaoru said:
"A warning would be good, but I hope they do not introduce age gates around GiantBomb. Age gates are so stupid, anyone can put in a birthdate and say they are over 18 even if they really aren't. So yeah, a warning would be nice for pages like that."
site still in beta, im pretty sure a age gate will come.
I already labelled the game adult so once the age gate is up (if it comes) this page will be gated
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#6  Edited By John

Well, instead of deleting them, they should just add a an age barrier. Problem fixed.

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#7  Edited By Bulldog19892
brukaoru said:
"A warning would be good, but I hope they do not introduce age gates around GiantBomb. Age gates are so stupid, anyone can put in a birthdate and say they are over 18 even if they really aren't. So yeah, a warning would be nice for pages like that."
The age gates would really only exist in order to be legal.
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#8  Edited By Jayge_
John said:
"Well, instead of deleting them, they should just add a an age barrier. Problem fixed."
And where is the age barrier in the meantime? Nowhere. The images can be reuploaded once that's there; but having uncensored pornography (and yes, it is considered that) like that is ridiculous.
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#9  Edited By Endogene
Jayge said:
"John said:
"Well, instead of deleting them, they should just add a an age barrier. Problem fixed."
And where is the age barrier in the meantime? Nowhere. The images can be reuploaded once that's there; but having uncensored pornography (and yes, it is considered that) like that is ridiculous."
O that a good idea lets delete it all and than REUPLOAD it all, and fuck the images in discipline on GB are censored, thats how i found them.
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#10  Edited By Black_Rose

I just noticed that, it's pretty graphic, i didn't think GB would allow it but apparently it's against the rules :S. I wouldn't like an age barrier, deleting the images would be just fine.

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#11  Edited By Jayge_
Endogene said:
"Jayge said:
"John said:
"Well, instead of deleting them, they should just add a an age barrier. Problem fixed."
And where is the age barrier in the meantime? Nowhere. The images can be reuploaded once that's there; but having uncensored pornography (and yes, it is considered that) like that is ridiculous."
O that a good idea lets delete it all and than REUPLOAD it all"
If you're that desperate to have it there, save it and do whatever you want with it that way. Why do you care so much? The stuff there goes way over the line of decency.
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#12  Edited By atejas
Jayge said:
"John said:
"Well, instead of deleting them, they should just add a an age barrier. Problem fixed."
And where is the age barrier in the meantime? Nowhere. The images can be reuploaded once that's there; but having uncensored pornography (and yes, it is considered that) like that is ridiculous."
You do realise the age gates will only be a formality, right?
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#13  Edited By Giantkitty

I would just put some disclaimer on the home page "Some games may have adult material, viewer discretion is advised" If the kid is old enough to click there all by himself, he's old enough to read and understand that message. I don't like age gate things because I don't want to have to type in my age when I log in.

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#14  Edited By brukaoru
Endogene said:
"site still in beta, im pretty sure a age gate will come.
I already labelled the game adult so once the age gate is up (if it comes) this page will be gated"
I'm more concerned about age gates for videos. Wiki pages aren't really a big deal to me, it makes sense on them.

Bulldog19892 said:
"brukaoru said:
"A warning would be good, but I hope they do not introduce age gates around GiantBomb. Age gates are so stupid, anyone can put in a birthdate and say they are over 18 even if they really aren't. So yeah, a warning would be nice for pages like that."
The age gates would really only exist in order to be legal."
Sigh...Unfortunately. I just hate that crap at Gametrailers, especially if you have movies running back to back and they ask you to put in your birthdate for every friggen' video, it's so lame. Gamevideos.com does it better, in my opinion, putting in your age rather than your birthdate.
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#15  Edited By Jayge_
atejas said:
"Jayge said:
"John said:
"Well, instead of deleting them, they should just add a an age barrier. Problem fixed."
And where is the age barrier in the meantime? Nowhere. The images can be reuploaded once that's there; but having uncensored pornography (and yes, it is considered that) like that is ridiculous."
You do realise the age gates will only be a formality, right?"
Yeah, and that's why I think it should be a last resort thing, and delete the images instead.
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#16  Edited By Endogene
Jayge said:
"Endogene said:
"Jayge said:
"John said:
"Well, instead of deleting them, they should just add a an age barrier. Problem fixed."
And where is the age barrier in the meantime? Nowhere. The images can be reuploaded once that's there; but having uncensored pornography (and yes, it is considered that) like that is ridiculous."
O that a good idea lets delete it all and than REUPLOAD it all"
If you're that desperate to have it there, save it and do whatever you want with it that way. Why do you care so much? The stuff there goes way over the line of decency."
Then dont go there, it labelled as ADULT, that is what ADULT is.

hehe, just noticed that were talking about bible black and not diciple
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#17  Edited By Jayge_
Endogene said:
"Then dont go there, it labelled as ADULT, that is what ADULT is."
That's just plain stupid. "Let's hide it away and hope nobody ever finds it"
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#18  Edited By StarFoxA

How about a "flag inappropriate" thing like the one on YouTube? Users can flag pornographic pages as inappropriate, and then to view those certain pages, users would have to confirm their age.

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#19  Edited By atejas
Jayge said:
"atejas said:
"Jayge said:
"John said:
"Well, instead of deleting them, they should just add a an age barrier. Problem fixed."
And where is the age barrier in the meantime? Nowhere. The images can be reuploaded once that's there; but having uncensored pornography (and yes, it is considered that) like that is ridiculous."
You do realise the age gates will only be a formality, right?"
Yeah, and that's why I think it should be a last resort thing, and delete the images instead."
What would you prefer? Because the only other theoretical thing would be a birthdate included in our profiles, and that might fuck with our profile stability.
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#20  Edited By Endogene
Jayge said:
"Endogene said:
"Then dont go there, it labelled as ADULT, that is what ADULT is."
That's just plain stupid. "Let's hide it away and hope nobody ever finds it""
Its a porn game for Christ sake what do you expect?
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#21  Edited By brukaoru
atejas said:
"What would you prefer? Because the only other theoretical thing would be a birthdate included in our profiles, and that might fuck with our profile stability."
Not to mention people would just lie about their age, and that may lead to more alternate accounts so people can view certain pages.
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#22  Edited By kmdrkul
Endogene said:
"Jayge said:
"Endogene said:
"Jayge said:
"John said:
"Well, instead of deleting them, they should just add a an age barrier. Problem fixed."
And where is the age barrier in the meantime? Nowhere. The images can be reuploaded once that's there; but having uncensored pornography (and yes, it is considered that) like that is ridiculous."
O that a good idea lets delete it all and than REUPLOAD it all"
If you're that desperate to have it there, save it and do whatever you want with it that way. Why do you care so much? The stuff there goes way over the line of decency."
Then dont go there, it labelled as ADULT, that is what ADULT is."
When has a website (video stores also come to mind) EVER had an Adult section that actually kept minors out?  You are missing the point here.
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#23  Edited By Jayge_
atejas said:
"What would you prefer? Because the only other theoretical thing would be a birthdate included in our profiles, and that might fuck with our profile stability."
I would prefer the deletion of the images, and if not, whatever else can be done to keep them hidden. I have referred people, including minors, to this website for videogame information. I don't need anyone coming to me and saying "I found porn on this website and got in trouble for it" or anything. It represents the site in a really crude way by just leaving it for all to see like that.
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#24  Edited By Black_Rose
Endogene said:
"Its a porn game for Christ sake what do you expect?"
I dont mind, but i dont want people the age of my little brother looking at it. And they wil.
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#25  Edited By breton
Jayge said:
I have referred people, including minors, to this website for videogame information.
And they're getting information about video games. Including adult ones. There's nudity in encyclopedias and national geographics too. No no, kids, you can't read those!
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#26  Edited By John

Quick reminder, they are:
1- game-related screenshots.
2- Fucking cartoons.

Why all the fuss? Maybe it's because I don't have kids yet, but seriously, it's not like the internet doesn't have this kind of stuff by the millions.

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#27  Edited By Endogene
Black_Rose said:
"Endogene said:
"Its a porn game for Christ sake what do you expect?"
I dont mind, but i dont want people the age of my little brother looking at it. And they wil."
Age barrier fine, deletion no
Those images represent what that game is, well actually no, there are no torture sex images, plenty of that in that game.
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#28  Edited By kmdrkul
John said:
"Quick reminder, they are:
1- game-related screenshots.
2- Fucking cartoons.

Why all the fuss? Maybe it's because I don't have kids yet, but seriously, it's not like the internet doesn't have this kind of stuff by the millions."
Exactly.  Let people look at that shit on the internet.  Let them do a search for it.  I know on several occasions, somebody has made a post in the forum section of a particular one of these games, and I went to hit the Forums button at the top of the home page and there it was, an easy link to that crap for all to see.  This community does not need shit like this; the one percent of gamers that are into this kind of crap can go pollute other websites; I come to this community to talk about games, not to see this kind of crap.
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#29  Edited By Jayge_
breton said:
"Jayge said:
I have referred people, including minors, to this website for videogame information.
And they're getting information about video games. Including adult ones. There's nudity in encyclopedias and national geographics too. No no, kids, you can't read those!"
Yes, nudity. Are there people ejaculating on each other, receiving oral sex, using dildos, among other erotic things scattered across the hentai games here? No. If there *is* anything sexual, it's for posterity and completeness's sake. And you don't see the people I'm talking about shielding going to encyclopedias for that stuff. My point is, you can come across the information way easier here, as the games can pop up right into the main page's list and anyone can click it.

StarFoxA said:
"How about a "flag inappropriate" thing like the one on YouTube? Users can flag pornographic pages as inappropriate, and then to view those certain pages, users would have to confirm their age."
That's probably the best option, but hard to process anyway. Who knows if they want to go to the trouble.
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#30  Edited By ryanwho
Black_Rose said:
"Endogene said:
"Its a porn game for Christ sake what do you expect?"
I dont mind, but i dont want people the age of my little brother looking at it. And they wil."
Its not society's job to guide the moral compass of your little brother. It's mom, dad, and big brother's job. You can't just delete shit that offends little brother cus you're too lazy or busy to bother supervising him yourself.
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#31  Edited By xplodedd

i agree. with this dude
kmdrkul said:

"John said:
"Quick reminder, they are:
1- game-related screenshots.
2- Fucking cartoons.

Why all the fuss? Maybe it's because I don't have kids yet, but seriously, it's not like the internet doesn't have this kind of stuff by the millions."
Exactly.  Let people look at that shit on the internet.  Let them do a search for it.  I know on several occasions, somebody has made a post in the forum section of a particular one of these games, and I went to hit the Forums button at the top of the home page and there it was, an easy link to that crap for all to see.  This community does not need shit like this; the one percent of gamers that are into this kind of crap can go pollute other websites; I come to this community to talk about games, not to see this kind of crap."
you dont want it, don't go there.
im not there.
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#32  Edited By breton
Jayge said:
If there *is* anything sexual, it's for posterity and completeness's sake.
So are these. They're in-game screenshots. It's not fapping material. You could use it for that, sure, but that's not what they're here for. You could use national geographic for that if you wanted, too..
And you don't see the people I'm talking about shielding going to encyclopedias for that stuff.
So they're going elsewhere for their smut?
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#33  Edited By Jayge_
breton said:
"Jayge said:
If there *is* anything sexual, it's for posterity and completeness's sake.
So are these. They're in-game screenshots. It's not fapping material. You could use it for that, sure, but that's not what they're here for. You could use national geographic for that if you wanted, too..
And you don't see the people I'm talking about shielding going to encyclopedias for that stuff.
So they're going elsewhere for their smut?
"
Are you seriously going to sit there and tell me that these games weren't created entirely for fapping material? Bullshit.

SuperMooseman said:
"The way round this would to have the user mark the images as adult when uploading. These images would then not be displayed to any guests, nor to anyone under 18 registered on the site. It would check the date of birth from your GB profile which would not be editable. If you are over 18, you can tick a box in your profile confirming whether or not you want to see adult images. If you tick no, when visiting these game pages it'll just show no images in the gallery.

This kind of stuff can be found by a click of the mouse from Google. If you are really concerned  for the time being, you can get free or purchasable parental controls for your computer."
That would be perfect.
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#34  Edited By Black_Rose
ryanwho said:
"Its not society's job to guide the moral compass of your little brother. It's mom, dad, and big brother's job. You can't just delete shit that offends little brother cus you're too lazy or busy to bother supervising him yourself."
It's not only my little brother, it's any kid his age. What if they come here looking for info on a game and they find that?
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#35  Edited By TheGTAvaccine

BUT I LIKE CARTOON BOOBZ

Yeah, some sort of age flagging system would be great.

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#36  Edited By Jayge_
Black_Rose said:
"ryanwho said:
"Its not society's job to guide the moral compass of your little brother. It's mom, dad, and big brother's job. You can't just delete shit that offends little brother cus you're too lazy or busy to bother supervising him yourself."
It's not only my little brother, it's any kid his age. What if they come here looking for info on a game and they find that?"
Right. Parental supervision only goes so far. Nobody expects porn on a video game information site. Especially without any sort of warning whatsoever.
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#37  Edited By Endogene
Jayge said:
"Black_Rose said:
"ryanwho said:
"Its not society's job to guide the moral compass of your little brother. It's mom, dad, and big brother's job. You can't just delete shit that offends little brother cus you're too lazy or busy to bother supervising him yourself."
It's not only my little brother, it's any kid his age. What if they come here looking for info on a game and they find that?"
Right. Parental supervision only goes so far. Nobody expects porn on a video game information site. Especially without any sort of warning whatsoever."
So the problem is that there is no warning then?
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#38  Edited By breton
Jayge said:
Are you seriously going to sit there and tell me that these games weren't created entirely for fapping material? Bullshit.
It doesn't matter. This websites purpose is to catalogue games, and game related material. If adult content happens to fall into it, so be it. Censorship is not the route to take.
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#39  Edited By Endogene
breton said:
"Jayge said:
Are you seriously going to sit there and tell me that these games weren't created entirely for fapping material? Bullshit.
It doesn't matter. This websites purpose is to catalogue games, and game related material. If adult content happens to fall into it, so be it. Censorship is not the route to take."
  thank god for people who have common sense
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#40  Edited By Jayge_
breton said:
"Jayge said:
Are you seriously going to sit there and tell me that these games weren't created entirely for fapping material? Bullshit.
It doesn't matter. This websites purpose is to catalogue games, and game related material. If adult content happens to fall into it, so be it. Censorship is not the route to take."
Don't backtrack. The adult content can easily be represented through text, and does not need obscene graphic images accompanying it.

Endogene said:
"So the problem is that there is no warning then?"
The problem is no warning, and no flagging. And tagging things as Adult doesn't do anything at all. The flagging options suggested by Mooseman are fine.
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#41  Edited By Black_Rose
SuperMooseman said:
"It's very rare that people are going to stumble across a unsavoury game unless it is on the main page."
It's pretty easy, what if they search for a game with "black" on the title, or even worse, any crazy christian could come here searching for a bible game and they find that thing.
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#42  Edited By Endogene
Jayge said:
"breton said:
"Jayge said:
Are you seriously going to sit there and tell me that these games weren't created entirely for fapping material? Bullshit.
It doesn't matter. This websites purpose is to catalogue games, and game related material. If adult content happens to fall into it, so be it. Censorship is not the route to take."
Don't backtrack. The adult content can easily be represented through text, and does not need obscene graphic images accompanying it.

OOOOO you mean like censoring what is not "socially acceptable" in your eyes?
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#43  Edited By breton
Jayge said:
Don't backtrack. The adult content can easily be represented through text, and does not need obscene graphic images accompanying it.
I'm not backtracking. Whether it was created for that or not is irrelevant. The fact is, it's part of a game, and should be displayed here. If you want to take the stance of representing things through text, then I suggest we take down all images, and do the same for all games.
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#44  Edited By kmdrkul
xplodedd said:
"i agree. with this dude
kmdrkul said:
"John said:
"Quick reminder, they are:
1- game-related screenshots.
2- Fucking cartoons.

Why all the fuss? Maybe it's because I don't have kids yet, but seriously, it's not like the internet doesn't have this kind of stuff by the millions."
Exactly.  Let people look at that shit on the internet.  Let them do a search for it.  I know on several occasions, somebody has made a post in the forum section of a particular one of these games, and I went to hit the Forums button at the top of the home page and there it was, an easy link to that crap for all to see.  This community does not need shit like this; the one percent of gamers that are into this kind of crap can go pollute other websites; I come to this community to talk about games, not to see this kind of crap."
you dont want it, don't go there.
im not there.
"
Was I expected to know what the hell Bible Black was?
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#45  Edited By Jayge_
Endogene said:
"OOOOO you mean like censoring what is not "socially acceptable" in your eyes?"
Absolutely not. Although if you think it's socially acceptable to go around with porn freely available to anyone who stumbles onto it, without warning or age confirmation, you have deep-seated issues.

And stop abusing the fucking rating system.

breton said:
"Jayge said:
Don't backtrack. The adult content can easily be represented through text, and does not need obscene graphic images accompanying it.
I'm not backtracking. Whether it was created for that or not is irrelevant. The fact is, it's part of a game, and should be displayed here. If you want to take the stance of representing things through text, then I suggest we take down all images, and do the same for all games."
That's completely illogical.
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#46  Edited By Relys

Woooh here. I know what BibleBlack is, and I can guarantee we don't what any pictures from it on GiantBomb. (Unless Jeff has a secret fetish for devil worshiping transvestites).

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#47  Edited By Endogene
kmdrkul said:
"xplodedd said:
"i agree. with this dude
kmdrkul said:
"John said:
"Quick reminder, they are:
1- game-related screenshots.
2- Fucking cartoons.

Why all the fuss? Maybe it's because I don't have kids yet, but seriously, it's not like the internet doesn't have this kind of stuff by the millions."
Exactly.  Let people look at that shit on the internet.  Let them do a search for it.  I know on several occasions, somebody has made a post in the forum section of a particular one of these games, and I went to hit the Forums button at the top of the home page and there it was, an easy link to that crap for all to see.  This community does not need shit like this; the one percent of gamers that are into this kind of crap can go pollute other websites; I come to this community to talk about games, not to see this kind of crap."
you dont want it, don't go there.
im not there.
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Was I expected to know what the hell Bible Black was?"
how about THE DESCRIPTION!!!!!!


"

Choose to follow evil or to fight it in this Japanese "eroge"--or erotic game. This game eventually was adopted to a hentai--or pornographic anime."

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#48  Edited By Jayge_
Endogene said:
"how about THE DESCRIPTION!!!!!!


"

Choose to follow evil or to fight it in this Japanese "eroge"--or erotic game. This game eventually was adopted to a hentai--or pornographic anime."

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What you seem unable to grasp is the fact that the description is only available through some lists, and anyone can click on it without knowing what entails after they engage the link.
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#49  Edited By breton
Jayge said:
That's completely illogical.
.. HOW!?!?! If your suggestion works, what's wrong with mine?
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#50  Edited By Thanatos465

OMG, porn is just ppl naked, I dont see whats wrong with that, fucking conservative, ruin the government and now the interwebs