@2kings said:

Here is the thing. CoD simply controls better, is smoother and feels less "camp-friendly". I feel like BF3 is for "noobs" who will be done with the MP when the next SP game comes out. That's what happened to BFBC and BFBC2. NOT to CoD. Just sayin...

Completely untrue. BC2 remained one of the top played games on Xbox Live all the way up until BF3's launch. As for the controls, COD is a lot more accurate and twitchy, but BF is not about tricky shooting. It's about the broader battle, not about where the bullets land in a firefight between two or three soldiers. The heavier feel nicely compliments that.

Hope it did well on the PC out of the gate, it definitely deserves to, IMO. This is a PC game that should be selling gaming PCs.

Some of you people make me oh so very sad with the huge anxieties that you hold about sales figures.

Sure...

@2kings said:

Here is the thing. CoD simply controls better, is smoother and feels less "camp-friendly". I feel like BF3 is for "noobs" who will be done with the MP when the next SP game comes out. That's what happened to BFBC and BFBC2. NOT to CoD. Just sayin...

Honestly I feel the opposite on several points. I actually like COD owning all but COD3 and probable 75% of the map packs and also being 14th prestige on Black Ops. However I feel that COD games are a lot more camping friendly than Battlefield but I do feel that Battlefield games are more sniping friendly. I mostly attack points in Conquest and occasionally hold them by sniping but I don't find a problem with people holding one of the points even if some consider it camping. I notice a lot of people in BF3 near the top of the leader board in points often have more deaths than kills telling me that yeah they die but they help the team capture and other important parts. I consider camping sitting in the corner of a random room trying to go 3-1 in a match just to keep their K/D high. Once again not trying to bash COD because I will probably eventually get it but just pointing out that it is a matter of opinion.

Here is the thing. CoD simply controls better, is smoother and feels less "camp-friendly". I feel like BF3 is for "noobs" who will be done with the MP when the next SP game comes out. That's what happened to BFBC and BFBC2. NOT to CoD. Just sayin...

Team deathmatch peaked for me circa CS 1.4 and CoD is more of the same imo

BF3 online is completely nuts, I love it so far and it looks fantastic on PC

also, console fanboys meh!

@blake_brown said:

@SparkEngineer /@Vegetable_Side_Dish

The PC version of BF3 is absolutely amazing I'd imagine ...

Eh, not so much.

http://getsatisfaction.com/battlefield3/problems/common

@BillyMethers: source?

Battlefield 3 has delivered very well for me, and this is coming from someone who didn't enjoy BC2 that much (though for some stupid reason I clocked a lot of hours in it). There's some dumb stuff in BF3, like Large Conquest Metro aka LOLROCKETSEVERYWHERE and the occasional crash, but overall I've been having a great time with it.

And I'm really surprised at how well it runs on my system given that my video card is a over a year old.

Also, just a PSA, Red Orchestra 2 is still fucking amazing. Actually wish BF3 would take some features from RO2 like their prone to sprint mechanics.

Don't care, just because a game sells a lot doesn't mean it's any good, let me see review scores, not how much it sells

I'm surprised Bad Company sold so many! It was a little pathetic of EA to spark this whole head-to-head thing. What, do they want to become the next Activation, with a sh*t load of money and no long term IP's? Makes me very nervous about games like Mass Effect, Dead Space and even Mirrors Edge. Back off, let the games speak for themselves!

Uh... the whole BF vs MW thing has been going strong for years before EA got involved. BF fans were bitter at the first MW for aping tons of elements from BF2/2142 and accepting credit for it. Four years later, it's still a thing.

@blake_brown said:

@SparkEngineer /@Vegetable_Side_Dish

With COD I know what I'm getting, also as a matter of taste I prefer the COD-style of first person gameplay to Battlefield. I like the faster pace, I like the ability to lone wolf it as opposed to having to depend on the numbskulls on my team.

It's entirely possible to ignore your squad and still have a lot of fun with BF3. I did it in BF:BC2, and am doing the same thing this time around. Sure, I'll dump off heals or ammo if I feel like it, but for the most part I'm just running around shooting dudes.

CoD has always felt claustrophobic to me. I just don't get the feeling of immersion BF brings.

@BillyMethers said:

Too bad it's loaded with spyware. People have been complaining all over Amazon about how the PC version (Origin) is scanning all of their files and folders, including folders holding their tax returns. I think that's a complete invasion of privacy and some of them even posted screenshots in the comments.

Seriously, don't let Origin on your computer.

Well if they don't mind scanning all of my porn and Walking Dead files, then I don't mind.

A couple of matches and I made a little video, this is the usual pace of my online gameplay experience. GO GET THIS GAME. 
 

I have banged 4,800 women.

My references are myself.

No, you can totally trust me. I wouldn't mislead about my numbers.

I can see why. The game is great. I can't remember having this much fun with a FPS since Battlefield 1942.

Holy dicks, that's a lot of Battlefields.

Yay videogames!

@Harkat said:

@2kings said:

Here is the thing. CoD simply controls better, is smoother and feels less "camp-friendly". I feel like BF3 is for "noobs" who will be done with the MP when the next SP game comes out. That's what happened to BFBC and BFBC2. NOT to CoD. Just sayin...

Completely untrue. BC2 remained one of the top played games on Xbox Live all the way up until BF3's launch. As for the controls, COD is a lot more accurate and twitchy, but BF is not about tricky shooting. It's about the broader battle, not about where the bullets land in a firefight between two or three soldiers. The heavier feel nicely compliments that.

What? How is CoD accurate? It has aim assist, to guide your bullets for you, it's not about accuracy, it's about who hits the trigger first. Battlefield on the other hand actually has a working physics model on it's bullets, so you really do have to aim.

How much did Codblops sell?

I'm really trying to not let it bother me but seeing people use twitch and cod in the same sentence hurts my soul. I wish they came up with more accurate term so it's not grouped with quake and ut.

@Nightriff said:

Don't care, just because a game sells a lot doesn't mean it's any good, let me see review scores, not how much it sells

well then go look at review scores. this story was never meant to tell you how good the game is, and it's really really good by the way.

Why are so many people bashing BF3? People have been telling me it's shit and when I ask them if they have played it they usually all tell me no they haven't played it and they are waiting for COD. They are not even similar in play styles.

I personally love BF3 on PC, and the online is the best it has been.

I guess haters just gon hate.

@Nightriff said:

Don't care, just because a game sells a lot doesn't mean it's any good, let me see review scores, not how much it sells

I've always held fast to this rule. The best games rarely sell much.

Actually, that's a lie. Most games that sell a shitload are rarely any good. Not all, but most.

Once again, not all.

@JoelTGM said:

@Nightriff said:

Don't care, just because a game sells a lot doesn't mean it's any good, let me see review scores, not how much it sells

well then go look at review scores. this story was never meant to tell you how good the game is, and it's really really good by the way.

I did read the article and all I'm saying is sells don't tell me, personally, anything about a game which is what EA, what Activision, what Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo want you to think. I want the games to speak for themselves and its sad because in this industry that rarely happens. Example: heard Shadows of the Damned was a surprising game this summer that sold 50 copies where Duke Nukem Forever sold half a mil for being a piece of shit.

@Nightriff said:

Don't care, just because a game sells a lot doesn't mean it's any good, let me see review scores, not how much it sells

You can see review scores. There's a lot of them out there.

@Brendan: Yes I am aware that the game has already been reviewed, Jeff gave it a 4, just was saying I don't care how well a game sells

Apart from some lag issues this has been one of the most enjoyable multiplayer experiences I've had in years!

@patrickklepek: The press release states that the series has sold 40M not 50M.

Developed by DICE in Stockholm, Sweden, the series has sold 40M units life-to-date.

@ptys said:

I'm surprised Bad Company sold so many! It was a little pathetic of EA to spark this whole head-to-head thing. What, do they want to become the next Activation, with a sh*t load of money and no long term IP's? Makes me very nervous about games like Mass Effect, Dead Space and even Mirrors Edge. Back off, let the games speak for themselves!

Honestly, I find EA much more offensive than Activision. Yeah, Acti's also on the path of franchise fatigue, but at least they let their games speak for themselves and don't make it a point to intentionally go the controversy angle. EA has made it a point to behave in the most shameful manner with everything the do, and I'll be dancing when MW3 still owns them.

well good for them I guess. maybe it will help them stay profitable despite The Old Republic.

I'm probably not going to buy either game (bf3 or mw3 that is) till some time late next year

@Brendan: Yes I am aware that the game has already been reviewed, Jeff gave it a 4, just was saying I don't care how well a game sells

@tekmojo said:

@Nightriff said:

@Brendan: Yes I am aware that the game has already been reviewed, Jeff gave it a 4, just was saying I don't care how well a game sells

Jeff didn't review BF3.

Indeed. Who's Dave Snider anyway? He one of the interns?

@YukoAsho said:

@ptys said:

I'm surprised Bad Company sold so many! It was a little pathetic of EA to spark this whole head-to-head thing. What, do they want to become the next Activation, with a sh*t load of money and no long term IP's? Makes me very nervous about games like Mass Effect, Dead Space and even Mirrors Edge. Back off, let the games speak for themselves!

Honestly, I find EA much more offensive than Activision. Yeah, Acti's also on the path of franchise fatigue, but at least they let their games speak for themselves and don't make it a point to intentionally go the controversy angle. EA has made it a point to behave in the most shameful manner with everything the do, and I'll be dancing when MW3 still owns them.

Ea was the current Activision before Activisision became "that" Activision

@YukoAsho said:

@ptys said:

I'm surprised Bad Company sold so many! It was a little pathetic of EA to spark this whole head-to-head thing. What, do they want to become the next Activation, with a sh*t load of money and no long term IP's? Makes me very nervous about games like Mass Effect, Dead Space and even Mirrors Edge. Back off, let the games speak for themselves!

Honestly, I find EA much more offensive than Activision. Yeah, Acti's also on the path of franchise fatigue, but at least they let their games speak for themselves and don't make it a point to intentionally go the controversy angle. EA has made it a point to behave in the most shameful manner with everything the do, and I'll be dancing when MW3 still owns them.

Modern Warfare 2 - No Russian airport slaughter controversy

Black Ops - Killing Castro controversy

As some one who played and loved Bad Company 2 I'll say this. The Multiplayer in BF3 is way better. More guns, better hit detection, better destruction, better vehicles, and better animation. I personally liked the single player campaign style of Bad Company and miss that direction but who buys the game for Single player?

@Mike76x said:

@YukoAsho said:

@ptys said:

I'm surprised Bad Company sold so many! It was a little pathetic of EA to spark this whole head-to-head thing. What, do they want to become the next Activation, with a sh*t load of money and no long term IP's? Makes me very nervous about games like Mass Effect, Dead Space and even Mirrors Edge. Back off, let the games speak for themselves!

Honestly, I find EA much more offensive than Activision. Yeah, Acti's also on the path of franchise fatigue, but at least they let their games speak for themselves and don't make it a point to intentionally go the controversy angle. EA has made it a point to behave in the most shameful manner with everything the do, and I'll be dancing when MW3 still owns them.

Modern Warfare 2 - No Russian airport slaughter controversy

Black Ops - Killing Castro controversy

Well, to be fair, neither of these were shoving it in people's faces. And the Castro thing was only a controversy in Cuba, where the state-controlled media played it up. Down here in South Florida, that was pretty hype.

@Slaneesh said:

Ea was the current Activision before Activisision became "that" Activision

And this is what drives me nuts. Yeah, Activision over-uses their franchises. They don't do anything else, and certainly not anything that would be nearly as exploitative as EA's "shut down the servers in 18 months" strategy, or the Origin fiasco. Activision seems to be hated simply for having popular franchises, and that's a bullshit reason to hate a company.

@AlexW00d said:

What? How is CoD accurate? It has aim assist, to guide your bullets for you, it's not about accuracy, it's about who hits the trigger first. Battlefield on the other hand actually has a working physics model on it's bullets, so you really do have to aim.

I don't think auto-aim is on during multiplayer, and even singleplayer you can (and should, really) turn it off.

Awesome. Now they can make Mirror's edge 2.

They'll get my money when I get a new computer that can run it.

The campaign was a total disappointment. The multiplayer on the other hand, flawless.

@Mike76x said:

@YukoAsho said:

@ptys said:

I'm surprised Bad Company sold so many! It was a little pathetic of EA to spark this whole head-to-head thing. What, do they want to become the next Activation, with a sh*t load of money and no long term IP's? Makes me very nervous about games like Mass Effect, Dead Space and even Mirrors Edge. Back off, let the games speak for themselves!

Honestly, I find EA much more offensive than Activision. Yeah, Acti's also on the path of franchise fatigue, but at least they let their games speak for themselves and don't make it a point to intentionally go the controversy angle. EA has made it a point to behave in the most shameful manner with everything the do, and I'll be dancing when MW3 still owns them.

Modern Warfare 2 - No Russian airport slaughter controversy

Black Ops - Killing Castro controversy

Well, to be fair, neither of these were shoving it in people's faces. And the Castro thing was only a controversy in Cuba, where the state-controlled media played it up. Down here in South Florida, that was pretty hype.

@Slaneesh said:

Ea was the current Activision before Activisision became "that" Activision

And this is what drives me nuts. Yeah, Activision over-uses their franchises. They don't do anything else, and certainly not anything that would be nearly as exploitative as EA's "shut down the servers in 18 months" strategy, or the Origin fiasco. Activision seems to be hated simply for having popular franchises, and that's a bullshit reason to hate a company.

@AlexW00d said:

What? How is CoD accurate? It has aim assist, to guide your bullets for you, it's not about accuracy, it's about who hits the trigger first. Battlefield on the other hand actually has a working physics model on it's bullets, so you really do have to aim.

I don't think auto-aim is on during multiplayer, and even singleplayer you can (and should, really) turn it off.

Holy Crap, I didn't know Bad Company was that popular.

Awesome. Now they can make Mirror's edge 2.

:O

@MaddProdigy said:

The campaign was a total disappointment. The multiplayer on the other hand, flawless.

Not flawless but I'm having a lot of fun and that's what matters.

Congrats, DICE.

I'm having an illegal amount of fun with the multiplayer. I haven't yet touched the campaign, and don't plan on ever doing so. I do plan on checking out the co-op eventually, since there are some weapon unlocks associated with it.