Tweet from Demize99 (DICE core gameplay designer)

"Great Game, Lame PC Port: 9/10 all platforms. Great Game that uses all platform's strengths. 8/10 on console.It's Shit like this GameJournos"

I totally agree with him, most game journalists seem to be completely retarded - it's like all the PC fanboy bullshit in comments sections has seeped into their heads and rotted their brains.

HELLA SICK TWEET BRO

Have to agree, it's refreshing to see a developer put faith in the PC again and that's coming from someone who isn't a PC fanboy.

"great multiplayer game, sp content somewhat lacking - 8/10" would be the right quote for BF3.

But I get where he´s coming from. Most multiplatform reviews don´t really seem to care all that much about the quality of the different versions. They test it on one thing and let it pass if the other versions look relatively similar at first glance. They often seem to rush the reviews of the other versions, so that only the most severe differences get mentioned. In the case of BF3 that would be the lower res graphics and lower playercount. They don´t look at what´s even possible on those platforms sometimes. Although with BF3 the player count thing is a legit reason to give it a lower score on console, if you like your battles 64 players big.

it's like all the PC fanboy bullshit in comments sections has seeped into their heads and rotted their brains.

@Animasta said:

HELLA SICK TWEET BRO

is you say so.....bro, I just thought he hit the nail on the head. Following the release of BF3 it has been really obvious how ill informed alot of game journalists are, DICE have alomost been punished for trying to make the most of the console AND the PC version. I'm sure alot of this is purely to create traffic, fanboy wars always spark an interest from the ever juvenile gaming community.

@AhmadMetallic said:

@kingando420 said:

it's like all the PC fanboy bullshit in comments sections has seeped into their heads and rotted their brains.

Uh-huh. Remind me not to take you seriously in the future.

PC fanboy I take it.

Tweet from Demize99 (DICE core gameplay designer)

"Great Game, Lame PC Port: 9/10 all platforms. Great Game that uses all platform's strengths. 8/10 on console.It's Shit like this GameJournos"

I totally agree with him, most game journalists seem to be completely retarded - it's like all the PC fanboy bullshit in comments sections has seeped into their heads and rotted their brains.

PC Fanboys suck wiener.

@kingando420 said:

@AhmadMetallic said:

@kingando420 said:

it's like all the PC fanboy bullshit in comments sections has seeped into their heads and rotted their brains.

Uh-huh. Remind me not to take you seriously in the future.

PC fanboy I take it.

NO NO NO.

Its either "xbox 360 / ps3 fanboy" or "PC elitist". Geez, some people,eh. Not respecting the Internet message board forum rules.

@Robo said:

I agree with his point, but you lost me whining about "PC fanboy bullshit." It has nothing to do with being a fanboy, they just need to consider that you simply can't offer the same visuals or scale on aging console hardware. What the game does manage on consoles is awesome, bitching about it because the PC version looks better is dumb. And it's shit like that that leads to shit like Rage. That said, I really hope he isn't also complaining about a 9 and 8 out of 10.

I wasn't whining, go and look at ANY story on kotaku or other gaming blogs about BF3 and you will find that the comments section is overrun with people commenting on PC superiority. Most of these people have nothing constructive to say about BF3, they're merely interested in justifying the large amount of money that they have invested in their gaming platform of choice, hence my phrase 'PC fanboy bullshit'.

I totally agree that an average PC will give better visuals than a console, only a complete moron would argue that isn't the case, I also think that the larger player count is great for PC players.

I was actually saying that to compare the two is absolutely ridiculous. Demize99 is essentially arguing that the reviews for the console version of BF3 have been negatively influenced by the mere existence of the PC version.

I think alot of PC gamers feel resentment due to the negative treatment of their platform in the past (and justifyably so) but their comments towards consoles, console users and in particular the console version on BF3 are often extremely vindictive; some of the replys in this thread appear to confirm this vindictiveness.

Battlefield 3 is a lesser experience on consoles so it should get a lower score. Reviewers review games, they dont review how developers work with the different platforms strengths or weaknesses.

Damn, I wrote out this whole argument about why it's alright for the PC to get a slightly higher score, but then I realized that, I thought, it really shouldn't. I guess he values playercount and slightly improved graphics enough for a higher score. Hmmm.

@kingando420 said:

@Robo said:

I agree with his point, but you lost me whining about "PC fanboy bullshit." It has nothing to do with being a fanboy, they just need to consider that you simply can't offer the same visuals or scale on aging console hardware. What the game does manage on consoles is awesome, bitching about it because the PC version looks better is dumb. And it's shit like that that leads to shit like Rage. That said, I really hope he isn't also complaining about a 9 and 8 out of 10.

I wasn't whining, go and look at ANY story on kotaku or other gaming blogs about BF3 and you will find that the comments section is overrun with people commenting on PC superiority. Most of these people have nothing constructive to say about BF3, they're merely interested in justifying the large amount of money that they have invested in their gaming platform of choice, hence my phrase 'PC fanboy bullshit'.

I totally agree that an average PC will give better visuals than a console, only a complete moron would argue that isn't the case, I also think that the larger player count is great for PC players.

I was actually saying that to compare the two is absolutely ridiculous. Demize99 is essentially arguing that the reviews for the console version of BF3 have been negatively influenced by the mere existence of the PC version and I agree.

I think alot of PC gamers feel resentment due to the negative treatment of their platform in the past (and justifyably so) but their comments towards consoles, console users and in particular the console version on BF3 are often extremely vindictive.

The replys in this thread appear to confirm this.

I was going to argue against the italicized part, but now I agree with it.

I don't get it.

I consider myself a PC first kind of gamer and you can all take me seriously when i say STFU and play the game on whatever platform you have!

Leave the Pixel counting for the idiots and whiners.

I'd like to see more reviews take the whole market into consideration when scoring games, not just the options available on the respective platform (which is apparently how it works atm). If a PC version is significantly better than a console version -or vice versa (lol!)- then that should be reflected in the score. Enough handwringing about upsetting console gamers; people need to know they could be making better use of their time by playing a better game on a better platform.

@Oxe said:

Battlefield 3 is a lesser experience on consoles so it should get a lower score. Reviewers review games, they dont review how developers work with the different platforms strengths or weaknesses.

and how exactly do reviewers review games?

@Jimbo said:

I'd like to see more reviews take the whole market into consideration when scoring games, not just the options available on the respective platform (which is apparently how it works atm). If a PC version is significantly better than a console version -or vice versa (lol!)- then that should be reflected in the score. Enough handwringing about upsetting console gamers; people need to know they could be making better use of their time by playing a better game on a better platform.

ridiculous, that's like reviewing the performance of a family car by comparing it to a ferrari

@kingando420 said:

Tweet from Demize99 (DICE core gameplay designer)

"Great Game, Lame PC Port: 9/10 all platforms. Great Game that uses all platform's strengths. 8/10 on console.It's Shit like this GameJournos"

I totally agree with him, most game journalists seem to be completely retarded - it's like all the PC fanboy bullshit in comments sections has seeped into their heads and rotted their brains.

Maybe he should spend more time on learning english and how to write proper sentences and less time whining about how much his butt hurts on twitter.

It does seem odd to punish a game for what it is not, rather than what it is. 

@kingando420 said:

@Jimbo said:

I'd like to see more reviews take the whole market into consideration when scoring games, not just the options available on the respective platform (which is apparently how it works atm). If a PC version is significantly better than a console version -or vice versa (lol!)- then that should be reflected in the score. Enough handwringing about upsetting console gamers; people need to know they could be making better use of their time by playing a better game on a better platform.

ridiculous, that's like reviewing the performance of a family car by comparing it to a ferrari

That's a silly argument. Cars are like the platform, not the product. The product you can liken to an engine. Put a massive V10 engine in a family car and the gear box won't know what to do with it and it'll just spin the wheels. Put it in a Ferrari, and off you go.

Reviewers are perfectly right in my opinion to consider the relative merits of different platform releases of a product, and if there is a disparity in quality then the score should reflect that. You shouldn't score a game and discount the inherant inferiorities of certain platforms compared to others. To game reviewers, platforms are not islands unto themselves; they often see multiple versions of a game running on each platform. For the end user, we may only see the game running on one platform, but that's not the reviewer's fault. The reviewer has to report honestly on his/her own experience.

This isn't just limited to PC vs. consoles. In 2010 when a clearly inferior port of Bayonetta was released on the Playstation 3, this was reflected in the review scores - 89.8% GameRankings rating for the Xbox 360 version, 86% for the PS3 port. In that case, it wasn't an inherant issue of platform, but according to some of the logic in this thread, people seem to think both versions should have received the same score. Seems rather silly to me.

How are you fuckers not tired of arguing about dumb shit yet?

@Animasta said:

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@W0lfbl1tzers said:

How are you fuckers not tired of arguing about dumb shit yet?

This is not a dumb argument. It's just being argued in a profoundly dumb way.