I do not like conquest mode
I don't know about the rest of you but I cannot stand conquest mode in this game. In all of the other battlefield games (i.e. BF2, BF2142, BF1943, BF: MC, etc.) I loved conquest but for whatever reason, this version seems really bad to me. You don't gain nearly as much experience than in Rush mode, there is that really annoying siren that goes off non-stop once one team gets down to around 20 tickets and it seems that each match turns into one team just base raping the shit out of the other team and nobody ends up going for the flags. This might just be my experience but I would love to hear from some other players about their feelings on this game mode.
"I don't like the three flag setup, especially when most of the maps seem to be set up with the flags in a straight line. It defeats the purpose, really. "
thats another thing. The other BF games had way more flags to capture and they were spread out over a good distance so it was this constant "back and forth" that was really fun and nerve racking. This version on the other hand is anything but as one teams always dominates.
I'm kinda shocked at how Conquest manages to successfully make me not care about there being only 24 players. Battlefield 1943 really magnified how empty those maps are without 64 players, but BC2's rush mode does a fine job at making cinematic and chaotic combat with only a third of the players.
Conquest isn't that bad hehe! I like conquest but I prefer rush more since it forces the players more to work on a single objective. As for conquest, there are just a lot of times that players tend to just run around and separate from each other and kill enemies; thus, it becomes a death match.
But when you get into a game that both teams actually really organize and try to dominate each other, then you're in for an epic match. Players will really try to bring down buildings where campers are and bring in the tank to actually protect a flag. I rarely get into those games but it's tons of fun. :)
conquest is a good mode that has been bastardized in BC2. I can only imagine if they do a remake of karkland for BC2... it will never work right. To go a full map Karkland with 32 players of BC2? it won't be fun at all...
In order to make up for the low player count, they introduced "Rush" mode. Rush mode tries to mimic full blown conquest mode of the past. They want you to have action all the time, but a massive map (like BF2 Karkland) with a max of 32 players(in BC2) makes for a lot of boring game. So they make you transition the map in phases, with Rush mode. It's a cheap trick, but it works. Rush mode is good for low player counts. If there are many players 64+, then conquest will work. So if they do a Karkland remake for BC2, it will have to be Rush mode, in order to traverse the whole map.
They have conquest maps in BC2 that are small and many inline flag positions... wtf with inline flag placement? so stupid. Conquest in BC2 is a failure, it doesn't work with the low players counts and small maps.
It does feel different. Perhaps a multitude of small, seemingly small tweaks eventually led to a big change? Or is it the map size and player count (which would be odd, considering BF1493 was pretty damn fun)? Either way, even if I don't like it as much, I'll jump into Conquest every now and then; just playing Rush gets tiring.
" @sho76und3wd: you have a point, but when the same scenario is focused on just two points the inadequacy of your team seems magnified somehow. Those 12 snipers would just spam one point with mortars till the building killed it and then snipe for k/d ratio purposes (and I mean snipers, not proper recon players). "I meant snipers as well. I just meant that if the game had more flags and the amount of flags also had an effect on your number of spawns like previous battlefields, it would be hard to coordinate 11 terrible snipers to do anything but snipe, let alone try and capture a flag.
I'm guessing you people are all playing on consoles as I've not really seen such servers where 1 team totally dominates the other the whole time.
People would switch over and the other team'd be able to fight back again.
Also there's not too many snipers in Conquest, maybe 2-3 per team and then they're just defending a base, they will quite often do so by laying down mines near the flag.
" @jakob187: The only two maps line them up is white pass, and atacama desert. Laguna Presa and Port Valdez don't. But that is 2 of 4. So 50/50 of getting them lined up. Port Valdez only has two flags. "Ok so what youre saying is 3 out of 4 maps are a straight line then. You cant have a map with 2 postions and not have a straight line.....
I only play Conquest. The other modes are fine, well, actually I find Rush to be rather boring. It doesn't help that whenever I do try Rush everyone seems to pick recon and snipe rather than attacking which irritates me.
Conquest FTW. It would be nice to have more maps as well ... >.>
" yeah man, conquest wasnt even in bc1 bc of player count, they only added it to appease long time fans. think of conquest as a bonus, but rush is the deal. conquest muts be attracting the MW2 crowd bc all they know how to do is run around lookin for kills. "so which is it, battlefield long time fans, or mw2 crowd? They're pretty different players. I personally hate MW but love conquest.
" @n00d13z:@n00d13z said:The map with two, it's shaped like a V. You its not a straight from base to base." @jakob187: The only two maps line them up is white pass, and atacama desert. Laguna Presa and Port Valdez don't. But that is 2 of 4. So 50/50 of getting them lined up. Port Valdez only has two flags. "Ok so what youre saying is 3 out of 4 maps are a straight line then. You cant have a map with 2 postions and not have a straight line..... "
Conquest has weird maps.
There is the snow one wich is insanely tight and all building collapse after 20 minutes.
There is the HUGE desert level were helicopters own everything.
There is that island based map,wich is pretty hard to defend.
Then there is that jungle map wich is all over the place in terms of layout and flag placement.
The mode is still good,though.
Actually, it does effect the flags. Your counter goes down if the other team has more flags than you.
" @kingando420 said:" @sho76und3wd: you have a point, but when the same scenario is focused on just two points the inadequacy of your team seems magnified somehow. Those 12 snipers would just spam one point with mortars till the building killed it and then snipe for k/d ratio purposes (and I mean snipers, not proper recon players). "I meant snipers as well. I just meant that if the game had more flags and the amount of flags also had an effect on your number of spawns like previous battlefields, it would be hard to coordinate 11 terrible snipers to do anything but snipe, let alone try and capture a flag. "
" Its definitely the player count. When playing battlefield 2 conquest I NEVER joined servers with less than 32 people. 24 Is not enough.In Bad company 2, encounters in conquest are to sparse and there's not enough chaos... that's why I'm loving rush at the moment. "
Huh, I never joined a server with more than 28 people. Of course, I also hate Battlefield 2. Battlefield 2142 was better (as was Battlefield 1942).
I really struggle to play Conquest as once that horn starts going I have this sudden urge to smash everything in the room and then go on a killing spree. That noise is a form of torture! Did none of the testers find that incessant sound aggravating in the slightest? I've never known anything to get me angry so quickly.
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