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    Beyond Good & Evil

    Game » consists of 14 releases. Released Nov 11, 2003

    The story of a young, curious, and green-loving photojournalist named Jade, out to unravel an alien conspiracy on her home planet of Hillys.

    HD remake feels kinda sloppy

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    #1  Edited By 8th_pacifist

    Just downloaded the demo, and I'm not sure what they did to it, but it doesn't play as well as it used to. They've somehow managed to make the camera even worse than it already was (and it was pretty shit in the first place), load times are longer (I guess because of higher res textures), and controls are in general less responsive. 

    This isn't the rose tinted goggles talking. I went back to the PS2 version and it does play better. Though this one does look nicer.

    I'm on the fence about buying this one. The original was quite good - not a masterpiece, but pretty simple and charming. I feel like I should buy it just to support the sequel, but I'm not sure I want to play it again only slightly worse.

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    Dur... just played a couple of hours of the full version, and I have no idea what you're talking about. Load times seem fine, the camera seems the same to me, and the controls are the same. Did you bother playing past the first 15 minutes? Once you get past the little bit of tutorialising, the remake seems fine to me.  
     
    My only complaint about this is that they didn't break out the audio levels into separate volumes for sound and music. The voices seem a little low in the mix, but then I usually play most games with subtitles, anyway.

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    #3  Edited By Cincaid
    @GravityProof: 
    Well, he/she said it was only the demo.
     
    @8th_pacifist:
    And demos are often badly compressed and/or put together. Sadly they often don't reflect at all how the final product is.
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    #4  Edited By Superdude201

    Aren't demos of arcade games just the final game, but it just stops you from going any further once you reach a certain point?

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    #5  Edited By YoungFrey
    @CrazyChris said:
    " @GravityProof: 
    Well, he/she said it was only the demo.
     
    @8th_pacifist: And demos are often badly compressed and/or put together. Sadly they often don't reflect at all how the final product is. "

    On XBLA, the demos are always (as far as I know) the full version of the software, but with limited play.  Which is why when you buy them it's about 5 seconds to "download" the full version.
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    #6  Edited By Kyreo
    @Superdude201 said:
    " Aren't demos of arcade games just the final game, but it just stops you from going any further once you reach a certain point? "
    Yeah... either that or they block certain features.  
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    #7  Edited By JasonR86

    I originally played this on the Gamecube.  I just bought the full-version it plays just as good as it did then. 

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    #8  Edited By manhattan_project
    @8th_pacifist: Your nostalgia is showing.
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    #9  Edited By project343

    The loadtimes do seem a tad long, and the camera felt fish-eyed. Almost like all objects in the environment felt too close. Not a big deal at all--this game is a wonderful steal. Just a bit disorienting when navigating in-door environments.

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    #10  Edited By Dreamfall31
    @8th_pacifist: I'd buy it just in the hopes it does well enough for them to finally decide to release BG&E2.
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    #11  Edited By CL60
    @Manhattan_Project said:
    " @8th_pacifist: Your nostalgia is showing. "
    This.
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    #12  Edited By BaddArt

    Is anyone else having problems with the game crashing?  I bought it this morning and I've only played for about a half an hour.  However, the game has frozen twice on me.  The first time it froze after leaving Mommago for the first time and the second time it froze as the Tow truck was coming to bring me to Mommago.  I have a feeling that it might be my roommate's 360 but I'm not entirely convinced.

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    #13  Edited By borodin
    @CL60 said:
    " @Manhattan_Project said:
    " @8th_pacifist: Your nostalgia is showing. "
    This. "
     
    @8th_pacifist said:
    " This isn't the rose tinted goggles talking. I went back to the PS2 version and it does play better. Though this one does look nicer. "
    That.  

     Seems kind of silly to say he's being nostalgic when he actually went back and played an old version?
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    #14  Edited By OldGuy
    @borodin said:
    " @CL60 said:
    " @Manhattan_Project said:
    " @8th_pacifist: Your nostalgia is showing. "
    This. "
     
    @8th_pacifist said:
    " This isn't the rose tinted goggles talking. I went back to the PS2 version and it does play better. Though this one does look nicer. "
    That.   Seems kind of silly to say he's being nostalgic when he actually went back and played an old version? "
    Please, that was all the way in the SECOND paragraph! This is the internet, they don't have time to read that far into the post! Sheesh.
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    #15  Edited By CL60
    @OldGuy said:
    " @borodin said:
    " @CL60 said:
    " @Manhattan_Project said:
    " @8th_pacifist: Your nostalgia is showing. "
    This. "
     
    @8th_pacifist said:
    " This isn't the rose tinted goggles talking. I went back to the PS2 version and it does play better. Though this one does look nicer. "
    That.   Seems kind of silly to say he's being nostalgic when he actually went back and played an old version? "
    Please, that was all the way in the SECOND paragraph! This is the internet, they don't have time to read that far into the post! Sheesh. "
    It honestly doesn't matter if he went and played the original.. >.> The game plays the exact same.
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    #16  Edited By borodin
    @CL60: Well, it matters if you're saying it's just his nostalgia - and if all you're saying is "You're wrong" who am I, an impartial third party, supposed to believe?
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    #17  Edited By CL60
    @borodin said:
    " @CL60: Well, it matters if you're saying it's just his nostalgia - and if all you're saying is "You're wrong" who am I, an impartial third party, supposed to believe? "
    You can still feel nostalgia if you went back and played the game.
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    #18  Edited By borodin
    @CL60: For load times? and the camera? O.k. I guess I know who I'm supposed to believe now.
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    #19  Edited By CL60
    @borodin said:
    " @CL60: For load times? and the camera? O.k. I guess I know who I'm supposed to believe now. "
    have you even played it? Camera is the same, and load times are like 2 seconds.
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    #20  Edited By SethPhotopoulos
    @CL60 said:
    " @borodin said:
    " @CL60: Well, it matters if you're saying it's just his nostalgia - and if all you're saying is "You're wrong" who am I, an impartial third party, supposed to believe? "
    You can still feel nostalgia if you went back and played the game. "
    I don't believe it works that way.
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    #21  Edited By borodin
    @CL60: No I haven't played either version. I'm honestly not trying to pick a fight, it just seemed weird to me that you said he was being nostalgic about thing's he explicitly said he had a chance to compare directly, and then just say that he's wrong about those things being different. Have you gone back and played the original lately? Because one of you is presumably wrong about this, and because I haven't played either version, I have no way of knowing
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    #22  Edited By CL60
    @SethPhotopoulos said:
    " @CL60 said:
    " @borodin said:
    " @CL60: Well, it matters if you're saying it's just his nostalgia - and if all you're saying is "You're wrong" who am I, an impartial third party, supposed to believe? "
    You can still feel nostalgia if you went back and played the game. "
    I don't believe it works that way. "
    Okay, I went back and played Goldeneye, I still think it's the greatest FPS in the world. No game is better than it. That is not nostalgia since I went back and played it.
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    #23  Edited By SethPhotopoulos
    @CL60 said:
    " @SethPhotopoulos said:
    " @CL60 said:
    " @borodin said:
    " @CL60: Well, it matters if you're saying it's just his nostalgia - and if all you're saying is "You're wrong" who am I, an impartial third party, supposed to believe? "
    You can still feel nostalgia if you went back and played the game. "
    I don't believe it works that way. "
    Okay, I went back and played Goldeneye, I still think it's the greatest FPS in the world. No game is better than it. That is not nostalgia since I went back and played it. "
    He's saying that they play differently not his opinion of a game.  That argument doesn't make sense.
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    #24  Edited By CL60
    @SethPhotopoulos said:

    " @CL60 said:

    " @SethPhotopoulos said:
    " @CL60 said:
    " @borodin said:
    " @CL60: Well, it matters if you're saying it's just his nostalgia - and if all you're saying is "You're wrong" who am I, an impartial third party, supposed to believe? "
    You can still feel nostalgia if you went back and played the game. "
    I don't believe it works that way. "
    Okay, I went back and played Goldeneye, I still think it's the greatest FPS in the world. No game is better than it. That is not nostalgia since I went back and played it. "
    He's saying that they play differently not his opinion of a game.  That argument doesn't make sense. "
    But they don't play differently. >.> The only difference is one of them is widescreen.
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    #25  Edited By SethPhotopoulos
    @CL60 said:
    " @SethPhotopoulos said:

    " @CL60 said:

    " @SethPhotopoulos said:
    " @CL60 said:
    " @borodin said:
    " @CL60: Well, it matters if you're saying it's just his nostalgia - and if all you're saying is "You're wrong" who am I, an impartial third party, supposed to believe? "
    You can still feel nostalgia if you went back and played the game. "
    I don't believe it works that way. "
    Okay, I went back and played Goldeneye, I still think it's the greatest FPS in the world. No game is better than it. That is not nostalgia since I went back and played it. "
    He's saying that they play differently not his opinion of a game.  That argument doesn't make sense. "
    But they don't play differently. >.> The only difference is one of them is widescreen. "
    I've had problems with demos that I didn't find in the full version.
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    #26  Edited By 8th_pacifist
    @CL60: The camera no longer turns to follow you when you move. This means you have to constantly micromanage it with the right thumbstick. That would be fine if this were a shooter, but it isn't. 
     
    My comment about the responsiveness of the controls was because I had more trouble targeting bad guys and button presses seemed to take slightly longer to register. So I'd say they play almost exactly the same.
     
    I still might buy it, I just thought these things bore mentioning, considering they're pretty much omnipresent while you play.
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    #27  Edited By lodar011
    @BabaORiely said:
    " Is anyone else having problems with the game crashing?  I bought it this morning and I've only played for about a half an hour.  However, the game has frozen twice on me.  The first time it froze after leaving Mommago for the first time and the second time it froze as the Tow truck was coming to bring me to Mommago.  I have a feeling that it might be my roommate's 360 but I'm not entirely convinced. "
    I played it for about 2.5 hours tonight with no problems at all

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