Tiny Tina is the crappiest character I've come across in the Borderlands universe, by far. The writing and the voice acting for this character are just bad. Her writing is like a cross between a pimp and a five year old throwing tantrums, then for no reason she make tons of sexual references like "flesh-stick" and "Sexopants". Then her voice acting is like a fat black woman with an attitude.

"These FIIIINE ass womens could stop that train for you but I'ma need their badonkadonks first."

"Oh daaaaayum, you lookin' good ladies"

It's SO bad.

I personally love T.T.

Thats what you get when your brother writes your lines. And then gets you a job.

Not my favorite character, but I see what they were going for. Doesn't bug me.

I don't mind her.

@VooDooPC said:

Then her voice acting is like a fat black woman with an attitude.

Yep, that pretty much defines Ashly Burch.

(I think this interview is one of the greatest things to ever be uploaded on the internet, by the way.)

I bet she does YA KNOW WHAT i'M SAYING. Okay, I'll leave now.

That is the joke..........also helps if your a fan of Hey Ash Watcha Playin.

The two people responsible for what you dont like.

I haven't played BL2 but I think HAWP is really lame

I hate this site more and more with each passing day.

@Akyho: I really don't understand how they get their dad to agree to do the things that they ask. What a champ.

@BisonHero said:

@Akyho: I really don't understand how they get their dad to agree to do the things that they ask. What a champ.

I dont think they ask him. I think he just does it, then they film a video around what he does. Anthony dosnt write anything. He just filmed his father for all of Borderlands 2. Then had guys make it.

I give up pointing out things that aren't funny in Borderlands 2. It really doesn't matter anymore. It's just how Borderlands 2 is.

I know it's hard, but we should all just get over it.

@huntad said:

I give up pointing out things that aren't funny in Borderlands 2. It really doesn't matter anymore. It's just how Borderlands 2 is.

I know it's hard, but we should all just get over it.

I haven't played BL2 and I am not going to defend the humor. However enough people have complained the same as. I am just going to say the humor is bad...that's the funny thing. People give examples of bad humor in BL2 and I laugh because its bad on purpose.

So yeah that is simply how BL2 is. You like it or you dont. Dont get too invested in it since Huntad has learned. That is the entire game.

It's not that I don't think it's not funny, it's that I think it's just bad.

I don't like South Park, but I see how people can think it's funny but Tiny Tina as a character is just poorly written and poorly acted.

I was also unaware that it was people from the internet writing her character and doing the voice acting, that might explain part of it...

@Akyho said:

@BisonHero said:

@Akyho: I really don't understand how they get their dad to agree to do the things that they ask. What a champ.

I dont think they ask him. I think he just does it, then they film a video around what he does. Anthony dosnt write anything. He just filmed his father for all of Borderlands. Then had guys make it.

I don't know if you're joking, but that's not what they do at all. It's actually an inside joke how their father is the total opposite of the character in the show and what a bad actor he is, sometimes taking hours to get a line right.

I guess I'm the opposite of most of Giant Bomb users: I couldn't care less for Borderlands 2, but freaking love HAWP and their podcast. Also, I think they've gotten better, the Quantum Conundrum and Game of Thrones episodes are both fantastic.

I hate this site more and more with each passing day.

I have a friend that talks like that all the time, so I found Tiny Tina quite funny.

@Maajin said:

@Akyho said:

I dont think they ask him. I think he just does it, then they film a video around what he does. Anthony dosnt write anything. He just filmed his father for all of Borderlands. Then had guys make it.

I don't know if you're joking, but that's not what they do at all. It's actually an inside joke how their father is the total opposite of the character in the show and what a bad actor he is, sometimes taking hours to get a line right.

I guess I'm the opposite of most of Giant Bomb users: I couldn't care less for Borderlands 2, but freaking love HAWP and their podcast. Also, I think they've gotten better, the Quantum Conundrum and Game of Thrones episodes are both fantastic.

I think the concept that Borderlands 2 is made by just filming an old man in his every day life, shows it is a joke.

@Maajin said:

I guess I'm the opposite of most of Giant Bomb users: I couldn't care less for Borderlands 2, but freaking love HAWP and their podcast. Also, I think they've gotten better, the Quantum Conundrum and Game of Thrones episodes are both fantastic.

I'm actually with you. I'm a huge fan of HAWP and think Anthony and Ash have really interesting things to say about gaming on the podcast and in their other writing, but I just can't get interested in Borderlands 2 even a little bit. Borderlands 1 completely burned me out on the idea, and despite the fact that I have 5 Steam friends who have been playing Borderlands 2 all week, I just have no interest in the game.

Also, the podcast has been less interesting as of late, because there's just too many people on it. I was fine with Justin and Blavis being added, because they don't say much and still let Anthony and Ash lead the discussion. Grant and Uly just seem excessive, especially when Grant is so outgoing that the discussion tends to revolve around him unless Anthony or Ashly really think of a discussion topic that they put their foot down on. Also Grant and Uly are only barely related to the webseries. It ends up feeling like Grant Storytime Hour most of the time. Admittedly, because of this, I've actually fallen several months behind on that podcast, so for all I know maybe the last couple podcasts have been awesome.

I miss when the podcast was deeply personal discussions between Anthony and Ash about gaming and fiction and life in general. That Choco Taco story, man.

I like the voice but hate the dialogue. It occasionally comes through with a good line (or is so ridiculous I can't help but laugh) but most of it just feels forced and annoys me.

Why did you buy BL2 if you knew you were burned on the formula? Its been pretty well established that the game is more of the same.

That's why I bought it.

edit: Disregard, confused who was talking

I hadn't really put my finger on what my issue with her was, but watching that HAWP clip it became pretty obvious. She's just so overplayed. It's like that youtube guy that was so popular a few years back. Fred or something ? To me comedy is about subtlety, not "HEY, THIS IS REALLY FUNNY GUYS!"

@BisonHero: I agree, and you probably didn't miss much. Perhaps because of their newfound success in the videogame industry (Ashly is apparently doing something at Valve?), the podcasts have been pretty scarce lately. And yeah, it's been a while since the last good, meaningful conversation about touchy or personal subjects, or even insights on the making of the episodes.

@Akyho said:

I think the concept that Borderlands 2 is made by just filming an old man in his every day life, shows it is a joke.

Yeah, I got that part. I was referring to using that concept for the show. =)

the weirdest part about tiny tina is her model is literally taller than mine (gunzerker)

I think BL2 is plenty funny. I am sorry my friends and I are having so much more fun than everyone else.

Actually I'm not really sorry. Suckas!

@VooDooPC said:

Tiny Tina is the crappiest character I've come across in the Borderlands universe, by far. The writing and the voice acting for this character are just bad. Her writing is like a cross between a pimp and a five year old throwing tantrums, then for no reason she make tons of sexual references like "flesh-stick" and "Sexopants". Then her voice acting is like a fat black woman with an attitude.

"These FIIIINE ass womens could stop that train for you but I'ma need their badonkadonks first."

"Oh daaaaayum, you lookin' good ladies"

It's SO bad.

All these reasons are why I love the character!

I didn't mind the way she was acted, I mean, it's supposed to be a socially damaged 13 year old girl, so the goofiness and annoying energetic attitude made sense for the character. However, I fucking hated the dialogue. It wasn't funny at all, it was all really laming and trying wayyyyyyy too hard.

I thought Ellie was also really annoying, couldn't wait for them to stop talking.

@ajamafalous: It's more because of this prevailing attitude around here that if something wasn't written or spoken by the Great Jeff Gerstmann and Co. then it can't be funny and must be derided as much as possible.

I have been witnessing this for some time now and it only seems to be getting worse. I could handle it if it was just the community doing this but it seems the GB crew are also guilty of lambasting things like this. Yes, internet humor and memes tend to be pretty dumb and immature, but so is Giant Bomb's humor. God forbid someone tries to inject a 30 to 60 hour long game with some humor and miss a few jokes here and there!

In all honesty, I just think this site is evolving into something I don't want to be a part of anymore. I don't even know why I'm bothering to write all of this. People getting angry and leaving is nothing new to forums, but this was the first site I really wanted to be a part of. I'm more depressed than angry I guess. Now I'm rambling. Gonna take a nap.

Haven't gotten to TT yet but BL2 has provided a few good laughs in the first few hours. More so the text stuff than the dialogue, but whatever. This is about the third or fourth thread complaining about the game's humor and frankly the subject is already old.

@BigDaddy81 said:

@ajamafalous: It's more because of this prevailing attitude around here that if something wasn't written or spoken by the Great Jeff Gerstmann and Co. then it can't be funny and must be derided as much as possible.

I have been witnessing this for some time now and it only seems to be getting worse. I could handle it if it was just the community doing this but it seems the GB crew are also guilty of lambasting things like this. Yes, internet humor and memes tend to be pretty dumb and immature, but so is Giant Bomb's humor. God forbid someone tries to inject a 30 to 60 hour long game with some humor and miss a few jokes here and there!

In all honesty, I just think this site is evolving into something I don't want to be a part of anymore. I don't even know why I'm bothering to write all of this. People getting angry and leaving is nothing new to forums, but this was the first site I really wanted to be a part of. I'm more depressed than angry I guess. Now I'm rambling. Gonna take a nap.

So a single guy posts a thread about not liking a single character in a single game, and you go off the charts. Sounds reasonable.

I actually liked her character a lot, as a character. You also get some backstory later on on how she came to be this way.

Didn't necessarily find her lines by themselves funny. But enjoyed the mannerisms and unique values/perception that character has overall.

I didn't know the Burcheses had a podcast! I might have to get in on that. I burned out pretty hard on MBMBaM last year, but maybe this sibling-based tangentially-related-to-videogames podcast will be the one I was looking for.

On topic, I think Borderlands 2 is sometimes funny. But a lot of comedy is timing, and it's hard to be funny when almost all of your comedy is delivered via loose, vaguely area-triggered radio messages that play one at a time and often cut each other off or don't quite play properly. Either that or delivered in-person, via a character model cycling through a single talking animation over and over again while speaking sort-of in your general direction. Certainly not with much sense of timing. So I give the writing a pretty generous handicap, considering what it's dealing with.

Still, I think Lilith's stuff is really well done. And there's a lot of it! The other "former-Vault-Hunters" seem almost irrelevant compared to how much they did with her character.

How shocking that this thread shows up after Jeff says the same thing. I don't care for the character, but the whole thing makes me think of a good chunk of this community doing whatever Jeff thinks without a moment's hesitation.

@Dagbiker said:

@BigDaddy81 said:

@ajamafalous: It's more because of this prevailing attitude around here that if something wasn't written or spoken by the Great Jeff Gerstmann and Co. then it can't be funny and must be derided as much as possible.

I have been witnessing this for some time now and it only seems to be getting worse. I could handle it if it was just the community doing this but it seems the GB crew are also guilty of lambasting things like this. Yes, internet humor and memes tend to be pretty dumb and immature, but so is Giant Bomb's humor. God forbid someone tries to inject a 30 to 60 hour long game with some humor and miss a few jokes here and there!

In all honesty, I just think this site is evolving into something I don't want to be a part of anymore. I don't even know why I'm bothering to write all of this. People getting angry and leaving is nothing new to forums, but this was the first site I really wanted to be a part of. I'm more depressed than angry I guess. Now I'm rambling. Gonna take a nap.

So a single guy posts a thread about not liking a single character in a single game, and you go off the charts. Sounds reasonable.

You are missing the part where he said he has been witnessing it for some time. Not that I agree with him, but he is not talking about a single user or post.

@dragonzord said:

How shocking that this thread shows up after Jeff says the same thing. I don't care for the character, but the whole thing makes me think of a good chunk of this community doing whatever Jeff thinks without a moment's hesitation.

I can't speak for the guy who created the thread, but I think you are giving Jeff too much credit here. I for one know that every time Tina or Ellie started talking I immediately wanted them to stop, and never found them funny. It made no difference to me that I eventually found out that Jeff felt similarly about Tina.

@bushpusherr said:

@dragonzord said:

How shocking that this thread shows up after Jeff says the same thing. I don't care for the character, but the whole thing makes me think of a good chunk of this community doing whatever Jeff thinks without a moment's hesitation.

I can't speak for the guy who created the thread, but I think you are giving Jeff too much credit here. I for one know that every time Tina or Ellie started talking I immediately wanted them to stop, and never found them funny. It made no difference to me that I eventually found out that Jeff felt similarly about Tina.

I also don't like Tiny Tina and only later saw Jeff talk about not liking her. I don't hate her though. I find her annoying, but I understand why someone would find her amusing. Don't mind Ellie. Don't find her funny either, but she's just Ellie to me.

I like the siblings Birch, so I enjoyed Tiny Tina's lines. They weren't "funny" in and of themselves, but the delivery was a lot of fun to listen to. Some of the more sexual lines were kind of uncomfortable, though, considering.

Now, Ellie, on the other hand... every single thing she says falls flat.

A couple side quests got a little chuckle out of me. Generally the game's humor doesn't work for me. It's fun though, I can deal.

@dragonzord said:

How shocking that this thread shows up after Jeff says the same thing. I don't care for the character, but the whole thing makes me think of a good chunk of this community doing whatever Jeff thinks without a moment's hesitation.

So you think she's not funny regardless of Jeff's opinion but when other people think that way they're Jeff fanboys?

Lol I love Tina. Between the char art, animations, and the voice acting I thought it came off flawlessly. I think it was the voice acting that really pulled it all together.

I think BL2 is plenty funny. I am sorry my friends and I are having so much more fun than everyone else.

Actually I'm not really sorry. Suckas!

@MariachiMacabre said:

Seriously the hate train for every major release is getting crazy. Positivity is becoming a rarer site with each passing day.

I don't really see any "hate trains" going around. A lot of people in this thread have stated (and I will join them) in saying that BL2 is an awesome game. The game isn't perfect though, and people shouldn't be discouraged from speaking out about that. Sure there are always exceptions, but I think for the most part, a lot of legitimate criticisms of games gets blown off as "unjustified hate and negativity."

Tiny Tina is awesome and crumpets are crunk, nap time! zzzz

I just found her super annoying even though I enjoy the writing in most of the rest of the game. She's just a one note character who's in and out of the game in an hour and a half.

@MariachiMacabre said:

Seriously the hate train for every major release is getting crazy. Positivity is becoming a rarer site with each passing day.

I don't really see any "hate trains" going around. A lot of people in this thread have stated (and I will join them) in saying that BL2 is an awesome game. The game isn't perfect though, and people shouldn't be discouraged from speaking out about that. Sure there are always exceptions, but I think for the most part, a lot of legitimate criticisms of games gets blown off as "unjustified hate and negativity."

@Mitch0712 said:

@VooDooPC said:

Tiny Tina is the crappiest character I've come across in the Borderlands universe, by far. The writing and the voice acting for this character are just bad. Her writing is like a cross between a pimp and a five year old throwing tantrums, then for no reason she make tons of sexual references like "flesh-stick" and "Sexopants". Then her voice acting is like a fat black woman with an attitude.

"These FIIIINE ass womens could stop that train for you but I'ma need their badonkadonks first."

"Oh daaaaayum, you lookin' good ladies"

It's SO bad.

All these reasons are why I love the character!

I actually loved the cross between a pimp and a five year old throwing tantrums. The part for me that was weird was the explosive expert little girl with a wooden leg living on a redneck alien planet all by herself.

@MariachiMacabre said:

@bushpusherr

@MariachiMacabre said:

Seriously the hate train for every major release is getting crazy. Positivity is becoming a rarer site with each passing day.

I don't really see any "hate trains" going around. A lot of people in this thread have stated (and I will join them) in saying that BL2 is an awesome game. The game isn't perfect though, and people shouldn't be discouraged from speaking out about that. Sure there are always exceptions, but I think for the most part, a lot of legitimate criticisms of games gets blown off as "unjustified hate and negativity."

It's not just BL2. It's been several of the major releases this year. The best example is the Mass Effect 3 bullshit that climaxed in death threats towards BioWare staffers. The video game community has a lot of growing up to do. It seems like the only things people ever pay attention to in games are the negatives. No matter how minuscule it's blown completely out of portion and reiterated with more threads than it ever warrants.

There's been a lot of hate. And a lot of love. <3

@MariachiMacabre said:

@bushpusherr

@MariachiMacabre said:

Seriously the hate train for every major release is getting crazy. Positivity is becoming a rarer site with each passing day.

I don't really see any "hate trains" going around. A lot of people in this thread have stated (and I will join them) in saying that BL2 is an awesome game. The game isn't perfect though, and people shouldn't be discouraged from speaking out about that. Sure there are always exceptions, but I think for the most part, a lot of legitimate criticisms of games gets blown off as "unjustified hate and negativity."

It's not just BL2. It's been several of the major releases this year. The best example is the Mass Effect 3 bullshit that climaxed in death threats towards BioWare staffers. The video game community has a lot of growing up to do. It seems like the only things people ever pay attention to in games are the negatives. No matter how minuscule it's blown completely out of portion and reiterated with more threads than it ever warrants.

I have gotten use to all the crazy shit that pops up when a big game comes out. But there is one thing that always annoys me and that is the "Am I the only one?" threads that pop up whenever a big game comes out. I don't know why but those damn things get on my nerves. I think Demon Souls and Dark Souls are boring shitty games with all the major refinements that have come along with modern games stripped out. To give it the illusion of being "hard". You don't see me writing a wall of text wondering what the hype is. Yeah I said it do something. Now excuse me while I go write a thread about how they need to make a Galaxy Quest 2.