So I have Borderlands on the 360, and I love it. I was considering buying it for PC, but Jeff convinced me to buy the 360 version, claiming that the PC version is all kinds of messed up. Having never played or seen the PC version, I have to ask: What exactly is wrong with the PC version that is better on consoles?

The only things I have trouble with are the UI not being PC optimized and the hit boxes being really finicky 

I believe the issue is just more that the game was made for consoles and therefore all the UI and menu systems don't work well with Keyboards and mice. At least that's what I can remember. There's actually a PC specific QL up, so you could watch that.

As someone who has the PC version: nothing is wrong, except maybe a large ui, but that isn't a big deal. Also, better graphics on PC, as usual. So maybe if you hate graphics, it's not your thing.

There are a couple things with the menu that clearly point out the game's console roots, but they are pretty minor. The game actually plays great on PC. You will just have to use some arrow keys or something in the menus instead of being able to click on everything like you might expect. I still prefer it on PC just for the mouse controls.

Co-Op was nearly unplayable at launch, not sure how that is now though since I didn't reallylike the game and only played it a few times.

The menus, and I had to turn the sensitivity down, because it pissed me off too much, because was slow and didn't need flicking or twitching. I played the PS3 version for a bit, and it feels better, but PC definitely looks and runs better. 
 
EDIT: Runs super good at CLOSE to max 1080p on my HD4850 + AMD 2.7x2 (I'm getting a GTX460 + i5 760 soon.)

" Co-Op was nearly unplayable at launch, not sure how that is now though since I didn't reallylike the game and only played it a few times. "

I am curious, is the framerate locked on PC? Because that's a big deal for me.

" @NekuSakuraba said:

" Co-Op was nearly unplayable at launch, not sure how that is now though since I didn't reallylike the game and only played it a few times. "

I guess I should add that the online play is done through GameSpy (who knew they still existed?), but it seems to work perfectly fine. Just kind of a bummer that you have to register an account through them if you don't already have one that you know about. I played with some guys from these forums not too long ago. "

I just found issues with the mouse, not just because of sensitivity but because it felt a bit laggy, but after doing some tweaks with the inis it was fine.  The one I haven't been able to fix and is a bit annoying is that in the menu where you see your level with each kind of weapon the sniper rifles can only be selected using the keyboard.

It works fine, a little laggy, i also had to fix the FOV 

I heard there were issues. But thanks for this thread it helped with part of a quest :)

" I am curious, is the framerate locked on PC? Because that's a big deal for me. "

You can play the PC version with a 360 controller which eliminates the janky PC controls. Other than that, there's really no difference.

I've finished the game and Co-op'd (local network) on PC before I ever played it on 360.  In some ways I liked the PC better for local Co-op than split screen on the 360, but gameplay was fine on either.

the pc version is fine when you plug an xbox controller in.

Nothing is broken about it at all.  The only minor gripes I have are a poorly implemented UI and the fact multiplayer is fed through gamespy.  Other than that it's still a brilliant game.

The only significant problem is the poor UI hotkeys (having to hit enter to accept quests instead of clicking a button on-screen, etc.). The game also has mouse acceleration so a small crowd of people won't like that; pretty sure there are guides detailing to turn it off on the Gearbox forums, though. There's also the fact that the multiplayer is through Gamesppy if you're really trying to find something to complain about I guess.

the UI isnt really PC oriented, but you can use an xbox controller and its virtually the same but with better graphics.

It's a bit on the demanding side with AA forced (it's not an option in the game menu either), but other than that there's not much to complain about. 

" I am curious, is the framerate locked on PC? Because that's a big deal for me. "

" @AlisterCat said:

" I am curious, is the framerate locked on PC? Because that's a big deal for me. "

no, you can't do that on PC because you don't know what hardware the game will be on, but if your hardware is good enough (it doesn't take a whole lot for borderlands) you can turn on v-sync and its locked 60 (or whatever your monitor refreshes at)  "

The only MAJOR reason I could think why the PC version is inferior is because the online functionality on the PC version requires a GameSpy ID.  Which means that if you want to get online with friends on your PC, you all need GameSpy accounts in order to play co-op.  The interface is a little clunky with the mouse and keyboard but I don't find it to be annoying at all.  I have played the PC version all the way through the original game and through all the DLC and I am about to play through everything again.  If you have more questions about the PC version of the game, just PM me.

1) VSYNC option not found in settings. Makes the framerate f'ed up and the screen gets janky whenever you turn around fast. 
2) Mouse sensitivity screwed up by default. You turn around at 100 miles per hour it seems. This may depend on your brand of mouse and certain Windows settings. 
3) Auto-aim and mouse smoothing as well as turn sensitivity hard to balance. Hard to tell if they're working well. You would assume a PC game would need no autoaim. 
4) Frustrating menus not optimized for PC. Pointer lags to where you want to click, and many options require you to use a combo of mouse clicks and keyboard clicks. (Like you can point to "Accept" or "exit" and click and the menu will do nothing, you have to hover on it and then press Enter on the keys. Lame. 
5) Field of view too zoomed in versus console version. This is the effect that screwed Bioshock PC owners, where widescreen monitors were only getting the 4:3 "square" TV's field of view with just the tops and bottoms cut off! Rather than the same view with the added width bonus on the sides. 
 
All of these issues however were fixable unofficially by changing words within the type of Windows notepad file ("settings.ini") that PC games use. Someone even made an EXE program that would fix these things for you without having to do any coding. 
 
I still think you were best with the 360 version, but the PC one when taken the time to optimize is pretty close, and since it was like $8 on Steam a few months ago, good enough for me!

PC's fine. It runs much smoother than the 360 version which for me was unplayable in some spots. It's much easier to control and shoot and I really didn't like the aiming controls on the 360, especaily towards the end when the framerate was really bad it made sniper rifles and things like that really hard to use.
 
The only problem with the PC version is the UI is designed for a console so it's pretty clunky to use and you'll probably have a hard time with the coop. Apart from that it's great.

UI is kinda goofy, but I just used a 360 controller and everything for the most part works fine, except for map scrolling. There is also mouse smoothing when you are using a Mouse, but can easily be turned off in the config files. After that, everything worked just fine.
 
Runs at a solid 60fps with vsync on and it still looks like a damn good looking game.
 
I think a PC raped Jeff during a rough point in his life. That could explain why it's so scary at times.

UI's odd; Gamepy for co-op can be very hit or miss; and performance, though usually really really good with nvidia cards, can be all kinds of fucked up with ATI hardware. 
 
Though I still love the game on PC, I desperately want a copy of the 360 version so I can jump into random games with people and not get fucking lag heaven due to GameSpy.

Nothing that isn't more than made up for by the better graphics / framerate / input device.  You need to navigate the menus with the move keys instead of the mouse, that's it.

I would highly recommend it on the pc.  I played it on the xbox, but the frame rate _sucks_.  The game is beautiful on the pc and runs smooth.